League Of Legends

from what I've seen it's a visual bug, did you actually lose LP when you looked at your profile and what not?

It's not a troll build, I'm actually thinking of making a guide for it if i successfully get out of silver with it. Everytime i look at my stats after an ap tryn game, guess how much dmg i take on avrg? OVER 50k, even well over sometimes, AP tryns job is to tank ultimates basically, or let them focus you, then spin away

except..you come back in the fight 10seconds later with full hp, and your ultimate will be back in a mere 20seconds >.>;


spin does a fkTON of dmg to anything without armor. If you see them building armor you build a LW as final item.

I've single handedly won so many games as ap tryn in bronze, i'm like 20-9 lol. but basically if my team doesn't win teamfights, i just bd all day and force the split push, and juke/let them chase me away while my team gets a free turret. eventually this becomes an inhib, then baron, then victory etc.


as for the nerf. his spin is staying the same (1.0 ap), but his heal is dropping from current (1.5 ap) to (1.2 ap), which is still viable. In most situations as ap tryn, i always leave my ult up and ready incase for "oshit" situations, and am always able to get away with crazy stupid ***like chasing etc because of it. (<3 mocking)


with the nerf, i won't be able to act as crazy as i do now, but will still be able to survive in teamfights for an extendeded period of time, by forcing me to use ult in every engagement.
ult recast is 90seconds at lvl 1, i believe 60 at lvl 3, with cdr it becomes under 40secs.

and at the very very worst case scenario, I would just have to build a spirit visage to keep up with my healing. (though i honestly don't think i will need to.)

another thing i want to add, i've been winning all these games without even a true rune build for him, i didn't have ANY ap runes until maybe a few days ago, and even now i'm still unfinished.

in PBE notes, they stated pretty clearly that they actually want people to use AP tryn as a viable build, similar to how AP yi is a viable build(yes, he still is), but they didn't want his heal to be as broken as it currently is. (with full build, in about 10~12 seconds i can go from ~10hp to full)

It seems to me most people who keep saying that ap tryn is troll, and doesn't work, just honestly don't seem to either don't know how it's viable on tryn, or even worse, that they don't honestly care how it works and just want to use that player as an outlet for their toxic behavior :/

i don't know~
my previous loss didn't display the info.
and then this game says i lost lp :|

I thought MMR Was based off elo and LP was just LP? D:


edit- it could also just be how slow the system is, and it hasn't caught up with itself yet.

I've seen it plenty of times on my own account where it was a game behind and hadn't updated yet.

i also remember reading a couple of red posts in forums that were telling people to bear with the system and they are working on fixing issues like that.

I wouldn't rush into making a guide, as they're nerfing the hell out of AP tryn (because it makes no sense sense)

way to not read my whole wall of china length post :(


they actually aren't "nerfing the hell" out of tryn, just lowering ap ratio on his heal from 1.5 to 1.2. still viable.

edit- but yes, i would wait until much later after his upcoming nerf

I've also heard that they plan on removing the AP ratio on his Spinning slash (because it makes sense to do so)

No, they're nerfing it. Instead of being a flat 1.5 ap ratio on his heal, it'll be .3 flat and .012 per fury he has. You'll have to have fury in order to heal at all.

though i have to admit, i love laughing at an AP tryn who gets sorc shoes, DFG, or Void Staff

that's actually how it works right now >.> just the flat slightly is higher and the per fury is slightly higher

the total amount of ap ratio is calculated as (current 1.5) post update (1.2)

so yea that's actually how it work's right now, his heal isn't a flat 1.5 , it's 1.5 after fury.

and yes it is a nerf, but like it said, it's still going to be viable lol.

DFG could work but the other 2 literally do nothing for him.

As far as I know, and wiki is concerned, that is not true.

Here are the changes on the PBE, currently.

and here is the current way it works on the actual servers.
Base Heal: 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 (+1.5 per ability power)

Extra Heal: 0.5 / 0.95 / 1.4 / 1.85 / 2.3 per 1 fury consumed

No, right now the 1.5 ap ratio is flat, regardless of fury. The AP will now scale with fury and have a .3 flat ratio.

the reason DFG is bad on him is because it's more of a prep for more magic damage as opposed to the additional nuke that it used to be

Is this not ad trynd's role as well? Spin in, anti carry, eat a ton of dmg, and get out? Perhaps as ap trynd you gain the ability to eat a little more cc than ad trynd, but in return you're giving up a ton of dmg. And if you have to leave the fight for 10 seconds as AP trynd, the fight is probably already over. Teamfights are often decided in a much smaller time frame than 10 seconds, usually one or more people are dead or removed from the fight in that time.

I personally think there are better tanks and anticarries that fill this role on something they aren't nerfing, and fits the design of the champ better. Trynd just sacrifices too much by going ap, and gains the ability to do things that other champs already do.

AD trynd is also one of the scarier late game champs if not appropriately cced. he scales so well from ad and as and can survive loads of dmg.

It has been discussed already on the forums by the very people who explained why AP Tryn was getting nerfed, AP Tryn allows for a "broken" split pushing strategy, that's it.

Everything else, Eugene covered it.

You can carry any game as anything especially in Bronze where matchups and such aren't as important as in higher level of play, AP Tryn is literally flavor of the month, it's not a pillar.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/02/league-system-processing-delays.html

get *** curse

Just had a Lux who build Ionian boots, Chalice, and Morellocinonci;adng;hasdg whatever

I'll admit that I did that a couple times myself... and then a friend told me CD caps at 40%, so now I do magic penetration instead on boots :S

I'm learning... slowly... but learning :/

But you're not 30, and you listened when someone told you there was a cap. I told this person that the codex didn't stack to begin with. Told them multiple times the Ionian's were wasted.

So much bad in this game!

Level 30s are occasionally worse than those pre-30

riot should change the way games are lost/won
in terms of people disconnecting/afking in a game

shouldn't count as a loss or a win if that ***happens.
Twice I lose my promotion series cuz people are afk or get disconnected.

Players bring this up all the time, their response is always "herp derp it'll get abused so we aren't gonna do it."

It's true, though. Much like some people would dodge an "unworthy" compo, they'll dodge a lost game or make someone dodge so that it's not a loss on their record.

Sad that honest people have to suffer because of people abusing a system, but that's how it is. When you can swallow/understand that, the game becomes more enjoyable.

Said I was playing Cait and didn't care where. They told me to be a ward at Baron. I'm going to be the best damn Baron ward ever.

finally bought lulu



Yep that tasted purple.

Just had the nicest team ever.. Actually communicating in a nice and calm way >.>
Unfortunately our jungle d/c'd at level 3 or something and didn't come back until almost 50mins later lol
And the enemy team had mumu/kat/mf/taric/ka'zix. Still almost won, but derped in the end ._.

Can't even win a 4v5, the teams I've been getting are so bad