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 Sylph.Zaraku
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By Sylph.Zaraku 2012-07-14 13:19:00  
New Xerath skin so sexy. He uses hyper beam.
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 Asura.Lolserj
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 17:39:03  
volkom said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Friend got a LoL RP Card and she doesnt have an account, so she let me have it.

Most likely buying Ezreal and 1 other, any advice on Masteries, Runes, and Builds for him? I'm told AP is good for him, but I've seen some KILLER AD/Atk speed Ezreals. Which tends to put out more damage?

that depends on if you can land skill shots.

if you can, and are good at it. AP ez > AD ez

if you can't, then AD ez

or be like meshi and go hybrid.

all 3 work really well but just depends how you want to play him

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masteries
for AP ez i do 21/6/3 with a focus on AP
for AD ez i do 24/6/0 with focus on AD
runes:
AD ez: 12mr, 13armor, 25 armor pen
AP ez: 19mr, 15 magic pen (this is going to change for me this weekend)

For item builds, depends where you're going to lane.
AP ez mid: doran's -> boots > sheen -> sorc boots -> deathcap > lich bane > void staff -> rylai's -> athene's -> (insert last item of choice)

AD ez bot/mid: doran x2(sometimes) -> boots -> infinity edge -> beserker grieves -> phantom dancer -> last whisper -> blood thirster -> (insert last item of choice)

for Hybrid, ask meshi cuz I refuse to do it.


double edit: Those that say AP ez sucks haven't gone up against a good one. If properly built and you haven't died too much and you keep up on your cs and you get your items, you can half shot entire teams with your ult, and easily burst down ad carries/bruisers/ap carries with a EWR combo

triple edit:
Also if you mid as AP ez, you can sometimes snipe red/blue buffs from the enemy jungler or their ap carry. And if you want from your own jungler if you wanna be a *** or to save time

AP ez can't be relied on though, so I really wouldn't recommend using it over AD ez, and after testing it a few times I don't think Hybrid ez can do as well as AD ez

Don't get me wrong AP ez can do damage, but regardless of how good you are at it you can't completely rely on it
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 17:40:42  
And AP ez is outdone as a pick by almost any other AP carry
By volkom 2012-07-14 19:19:41  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Friend got a LoL RP Card and she doesnt have an account, so she let me have it.

Most likely buying Ezreal and 1 other, any advice on Masteries, Runes, and Builds for him? I'm told AP is good for him, but I've seen some KILLER AD/Atk speed Ezreals. Which tends to put out more damage?

that depends on if you can land skill shots.

if you can, and are good at it. AP ez > AD ez

if you can't, then AD ez

or be like meshi and go hybrid.

all 3 work really well but just depends how you want to play him

edit:

masteries
for AP ez i do 21/6/3 with a focus on AP
for AD ez i do 24/6/0 with focus on AD
runes:
AD ez: 12mr, 13armor, 25 armor pen
AP ez: 19mr, 15 magic pen (this is going to change for me this weekend)

For item builds, depends where you're going to lane.
AP ez mid: doran's -> boots > sheen -> sorc boots -> deathcap > lich bane > void staff -> rylai's -> athene's -> (insert last item of choice)

AD ez bot/mid: doran x2(sometimes) -> boots -> infinity edge -> beserker grieves -> phantom dancer -> last whisper -> blood thirster -> (insert last item of choice)

for Hybrid, ask meshi cuz I refuse to do it.


double edit: Those that say AP ez sucks haven't gone up against a good one. If properly built and you haven't died too much and you keep up on your cs and you get your items, you can half shot entire teams with your ult, and easily burst down ad carries/bruisers/ap carries with a EWR combo

triple edit:
Also if you mid as AP ez, you can sometimes snipe red/blue buffs from the enemy jungler or their ap carry. And if you want from your own jungler if you wanna be a *** or to save time

AP ez can't be relied on though, so I really wouldn't recommend using it over AD ez, and after testing it a few times I don't think Hybrid ez can do as well as AD ez

Don't get me wrong AP ez can do damage, but regardless of how good you are at it you can't completely rely on it

thats why i stated that if you can land skill shots then AP is good. but otherwise if you can't then AD is better.

Asura.Lolserj said: »
And AP ez is outdone as a pick by almost any other AP carry

sure but if you're good at it you can compete with the other ap carries.
its just much much harder to do.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 19:32:37  
No, he's just not a viable pick for AP carry

you've stated your opinion on the accuracy of tier lists many times before and he isn't even on the AP tier list, shouldn't that say something?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-07-14 19:39:57  
AP Ez has 2 abilities that can even be close to reliable to land and even then aren't even close to reliable as just about every other AP's abilities. They are his ult, and his w.

His Q stops after hitting one person, so that isn't very good. His E can't even be aimed, and isn't even really used for damage.

So, you're left with a 40 secondish cooldown ult, and a 9 second cooldown line attack.


Compare that to basically every single other AP in the game and it sucks horribly as a kit. You can't even really trade blows with any other AP who isn't pants-on-head HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE because they have reliable way of trading blows where Ez would only really be able to land 2 during laning.
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-07-14 19:45:23  
I've been seeing AP Yi's and Kog'maw's lately :(
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 19:47:26  
Fairy.Spence said: »
I've been seeing AP Yi's and Kog'maw's lately :(

AP yi annoys the ***out of me but normally you can *** him over with ignite or any hard cc, funny to watch one think he can tank a team and then die
By volkom 2012-07-14 19:52:42  


it works
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-07-14 20:01:53  
Oh, that settles it.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2012-07-14 20:02:03  
Hold on guys. Let me find that screenshot of ap gangplank I did that one time and I'll try telling you with a straight face that it isn't stupid.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-07-14 20:05:01  
AP Ez is A) fun as hell and B) not that bad. If you actually hit people with all 4 skills it does good damage and with Q spam you shorten cool downs on his E and W. If you just sit at a minion wave and mash Q you can get your ult back after in a fight in no time flat.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 20:12:05  
volkom said: »


it works

I don't think that shows that it works
By volkom 2012-07-14 20:12:54  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »


it works

I don't think that shows that it works

i don't think you know how to play anything else besides mundo w/o raging up a ***storm
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-07-14 20:16:21  
Woah mad.

And, you could have done better on any other AP in the game in that case. Just sayin. Or as AD Ez.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-07-14 20:19:44  
volkom said: »


it works
alt - prt scn

ftw

just sayin, it works
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 20:22:59  
volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »


it works

I don't think that shows that it works

i don't think you know how to play anything else besides mundo w/o raging up a ***storm

don't have to mad all over the place bro





and I play most of the champs actually, I'm not one of those people who calls a lane in ranked and feeds when I don't get it
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-07-14 20:27:08  
wait was that normal blind?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-07-14 20:27:29  
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Woah mad.

And, you could have done better on any other AP in the game in that case. Just sayin. Or as AD Ez.

In addition to this, we're mainly talking about viable in competitive play. Basically anything can work in normals, but if you do AP Ez in ranked you're putting your team at a disadvantage from the start.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 20:27:39  
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wait was that normal blind?

yeah both teams have twitch
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2012-07-14 20:29:40  
volkom said: »
k i'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE
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By volkom 2012-07-14 21:04:50  
k you know what? you guys are right

nothing i say or do doesn't matter because you'll always say that i'm wrong. or not doing right. I have never been privileged enough to meet douchebags like you guys
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-07-14 21:09:44  
This is where you post gay porn and get banned. Lulz.
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By Siren.Miyokonami 2012-07-14 21:34:08  
Dont let them get you down man, just keep dreaming. LIFE IS SPECTACULAR. And you can do what you want. Even if it means being a magician at the carnival you know. It's real.
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By volkom 2012-07-14 21:39:47  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
wait was that normal blind?

yeah both teams have twitch

yeah and it was a 4v5 if you noticed.

Siren.Miyokonami said: »
Dont let them get you down man, just keep dreaming. LIFE IS SPECTACULAR. And you can do what you want. Even if it means being a magician at the carnival you know. It's real.

i guess
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-07-14 22:07:05  
volkom said: »
k you know what? you guys are right

nothing i say or do doesn't matter because you'll always say that i'm wrong. or not doing right. I have never been privileged enough to meet douchebags like you guys

You're just like Rhaokin. You get offended at anyone giving advice or criticism and take it personally and then act like a douche.

Except Rhaokin actually takes advice at times and talks about it where you build 3 tiamats on Fiora and acts like it's viable because you can do well in blind pick.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 22:08:57  
volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
wait was that normal blind?

yeah both teams have twitch

yeah and it was a 4v5 if you noticed.

Siren.Miyokonami said: »
Dont let them get you down man, just keep dreaming. LIFE IS SPECTACULAR. And you can do what you want. Even if it means being a magician at the carnival you know. It's real.

i guess

How does 4v5 have any relevance to what I said?

He asked if it was a normal blind pick and I merely stated it must have been because both teams have twitch
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By Sylph.Zaraku 2012-07-14 22:18:10  
Serj is a bully.
By volkom 2012-07-14 22:36:42  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
wait was that normal blind?

yeah both teams have twitch

yeah and it was a 4v5 if you noticed.

Siren.Miyokonami said: »
Dont let them get you down man, just keep dreaming. LIFE IS SPECTACULAR. And you can do what you want. Even if it means being a magician at the carnival you know. It's real.

i guess

How does 4v5 have any relevance to what I said?

He asked if it was a normal blind pick and I merely stated it must have been because both teams have twitch

could've easily looked at the top left corner of the picture and see it was normal
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-14 22:49:32  
volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
wait was that normal blind?

yeah both teams have twitch

yeah and it was a 4v5 if you noticed.

Siren.Miyokonami said: »
Dont let them get you down man, just keep dreaming. LIFE IS SPECTACULAR. And you can do what you want. Even if it means being a magician at the carnival you know. It's real.

i guess

How does 4v5 have any relevance to what I said?

He asked if it was a normal blind pick and I merely stated it must have been because both teams have twitch

could've easily looked at the top left corner of the picture and see it was normal

but it's also blind pick based off the fact that there are two twitch players (yes it does matter)
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