League Of Legends

you talk about bt and lw on ad carry but use ap champs as an example...

There's a difference between just hitting hard and having some sustain versus hitting hard and treating everyone's armor like butter. Besides in team fights as the ad carry you either get melted fast or you hardly get hit and melt everyone else. There is no reason to take bloodthirster before last whisper as your third item unless you get fed stupidly hard early on

of bad gameplay yes. if i'm pointing out rampant poor gameplay, i can talk about other aspects of the game.

except low elo/normal aren't going to build armor til end and likely have bad positioning anyway, so sustain will win.

not to mention that study you quoted was talking about a fresh bt. a full bt, will help you melt non-armored faces even more.


in any event situational ***is situational. If your counter lane is building armor then go with lw in a normal.

I disagree. If you are running armor pen runes, BT before last whisper makes perfect sense. If armor items haven't been built, the 40% armor pen on last whisper won't do much for you. The life steal and extra AD from BT would be a better bet. Some games I even prefer black cleaver to last whisper.

Just my 2 cents. Take it how you want.

I don't think you know fully how armor pen/reduction works and how to utilize it

So wait...what you're saying Meshi is that items are situational and you should adjust your build around the enemy team and how they build?
/mind blown

It subtracts the flat armor first, then the %.

So if they have 130 armor and you have 35|10%, it would act as though their armor is 85.5

I think I got a grasp on it :3

Okay, so if I want to start doing ranked, I think my best bet is Jax, but I'm open to suggestions. Poppy is my main, but she takes tons of gold to get moving effectively and for whatever reason, I can't carry my whole team to the finish line with her, even massacring most the other team. Jax on the other hand I work better with a team as, I typically play him as a heavy bruiser, and 9/10 normals I win with him. Usually I jungle, and I go Lv2 Boots -> Wriggles -> Warmogs -> Triforce -> Atma -> Leviathan or Gunblade. Sometimes I'll leave out Wriggles, but Jax costs a lot to complete, so I'm rarely at a full build to where I can replace it end-game anyway.

Other champs I've been playing and doing well with are: Kat, Ahri, Irelia, Soraka, Alistar, and Blitz, but I can't carry with Blitz or Soraka.

Champs still have base armor and usually flat armor yellows you still need to penetrate. This doesn't include there being a lot of champs having steroids/passives to buff their base armor (Jax/Graves/Shyvana come to mind) and they usually also have flat yellow armor seals.

Since your a carry your job is to attack anyone near you and usually top bruisers will build tankier with the current meta in almost any elo (Randuins/FH). This paired with the fact carries usually only have the 10% armor pen from masteries doesn't work very well. (Having armor pen over attack damage in your runes end up hurting your ability to last hit which is why most people don't use them)

While life steal is nice, unless your Vayne, you should position yourself better so you don't need to lifesteal in order to survive a teamfight.

every champ has different armor values. And some get naturally tanky in terms of their armor, resists and abilities.
If you run full armor pen runes and masteries you got what?
31|10% armor pen or something like that at lv.1
If you got your ie,pd and lw, you now got roughly 31|46% or w.e
So if you're shooting someone
ex) somone with 100 armor. Then it's (100-31)-46% of that and now you're basically shooting them as if they has lv1 armor again. And it gets better the more armor they get.

But w.e not going to continue arguing with people who don't play ad carries often

The point is being made for normals. In normal matches, AD carries won't be running armor yellows, nor will the support be running any armor either (generally speaking).

People still run armor yellows in normals >.>

scratch that forogt armor scales with lvl

Friend got a LoL RP Card and she doesnt have an account, so she let me have it.

Most likely buying Ezreal and 1 other, any advice on Masteries, Runes, and Builds for him? I'm told AP is good for him, but I've seen some KILLER AD/Atk speed Ezreals. Which tends to put out more damage?

that depends on if you can land skill shots.

if you can, and are good at it. AP ez > AD ez

if you can't, then AD ez

or be like meshi and go hybrid.

all 3 work really well but just depends how you want to play him

edit:

masteries
for AP ez i do 21/6/3 with a focus on AP
for AD ez i do 24/6/0 with focus on AD
runes:
AD ez: 12mr, 13armor, 25 armor pen
AP ez: 19mr, 15 magic pen (this is going to change for me this weekend)

For item builds, depends where you're going to lane.
AP ez mid: doran's -> boots > sheen -> sorc boots -> deathcap > lich bane > void staff -> rylai's -> athene's -> (insert last item of choice)

AD ez bot/mid: doran x2(sometimes) -> boots -> infinity edge -> beserker grieves -> phantom dancer -> last whisper -> blood thirster -> (insert last item of choice)

for Hybrid, ask meshi cuz I refuse to do it.


double edit: Those that say AP ez sucks haven't gone up against a good one. If properly built and you haven't died too much and you keep up on your cs and you get your items, you can half shot entire teams with your ult, and easily burst down ad carries/bruisers/ap carries with a EWR combo

triple edit:
Also if you mid as AP ez, you can sometimes snipe red/blue buffs from the enemy jungler or their ap carry. And if you want from your own jungler if you wanna be a *** or to save time

Been playing him on the PBE lately, I'm good with his shots, and I tend to lean towards Ranged AD chars anyway, so maybe that would work best for me.

Thanks! AD it is then. Once I buy him all my IP will be saved for runes when I finally hit lv20 xD LV17 atm, because I dont play hardcore. Just a few matches a week really.

if you play him as AD on bot lane, be sure to have reallly good map awareness, some times you can send an ult to mid or top lane for a kill if you can aim it.
Also his ult is good for clearing out massive minion waves that no one can get to.

in terms of skill build order, if you're going AD like you said, should
do:
max your Q first, your W second and ofc, E last.
But be sure to put 1 point into E at lvl 2 so you have an escape.
And during team fights, fire your W over your team mates so they attack faster or shoot it over the enemy so they attack slower.

I waited for a response for a while to see if people see what I did with the Muay Thai thing.. no one got my sarcasm.... I'm sad... yes it is a skin directed towards sagat, just like mundo's is towards hellscream from WoW. I was hoping to see some one say... I see what you did there.

i see what you did there

1.) If played right, and you got the masteries and gear.. your seeds come up as you need them. If you just spam them for no reason without thought.. yes you will blow through them. Zoning is fun and works with your jungler. You can't use it like cait traps, unless you are really on a roll, and you are facing a defensive mid.

2.) The only thing she needs a buff on is her base stats. She needs more defense and hp and some more MR. Other than that she's a pretty balanced and fun champ. I see no point of buffing her otherwise

<33 thank you... you have no idea how much I needed that right now

Why must I shed my blood at least once, to spill the blood of thousands?

Your life is a burden, I will bring you freedom!

i honestly thought it was a woosh cause i thought everybody knew Sagat did muy thai (that or you were just trollin)

but w/e lol.

That Xin buff/changes.

So many good changes! Must play. :3 Oh but I think I could have lived without the changes to Malz. <.< Even if I sometimes play him, I will probably not enjoy playing against him! xD

Think my LoL broke.

Wont even load the launcher now, my firewall/antivirus is off, so they should allow it. I have not patched it since 2 days ago, so "new patch break" isnt the issue.

Logo comes up like its going to load the launcher, but it goes away and nothing happens, no processes running or anything.

I'd rather not do a reinstall unless its completely necessary.