Abyssea - Casual Or Hardcore ?

I wasnt aware RDM could wear Yhel Jacket +1.

Also, on TIII-TV Nukes, INT has a great affect on damage than MAB does.

LOL

he keeps recycling the same (useless) arguments.

maybe pimpchan listened to this song too often.

This leads me to believe you absolutely suck at this game, or have never ever done Abyssea.

He has no 80s so its clear he has not done Abyssea at all. lol

Either Pchan is really this dumb, or a masterful troll.

Wow.

Most of the lower tier NM's are soloable lol.

A little from column A, a little from column B.

I've been following this thread (and smacking my face every so often to get me to stop gawking)

But this picture is relevant:



Link is here to the FFXI Post

Exactly. Ignorant spack.

I think Pchan is this dumb. If he's trolling, he's trying too hard.

I'm with Pchan. Suck Less

someone needs to get campaign buttons that say that...
Just to commemorate this thread

You are wrong, that body is better on any nuke.

you cant use the body

I can show you a pic of me duoing morrigan legs NM. How would that be proof of a duo comprised of two casual players. Do you suck that much at reading.

woodman - ifrit : 4 level 80 jobs, has chariot titles, hnms titles, einherjar titles, limbus titles
babant - ifrit : 4 level 80 jobs, 4 level 75

you proved that two hardcores players can duo a tier I, how is that proving that 2 casual players can duo it.

Because I hit the "submit" button :D

How the *** does anyone not have level 80 on their main jobs yet?

Suck less?

You can be casual as ***, and still have 4-5 level 80's

You can't judge new content on old level caps lol.

he hasnt any 80 yet cause he was busy doing salvage. it's obvious :3

***. Since the update I lvld one job to 80 on lol birds in misareaux coast and got 2 more to 79 on nothing but trial of the magian stuff and then to 80 + 20 merits in 2 abyssea pts

Lol gotta love how PC calls everyone hardcore for having multiple Jobs lvled and Endgame titles

but Pimpchan- 6 75+ jobs salvage gear, dyna +1 gear,

How do you call people thats has pretty much the same ***you do hardcore yet your casual?

Where did I say I am casual ?

Just because someone has Multiple Lv75-Lv80 jobs doesn't mean they're not casual. This gave has been around for like 8 years; if a person has been playing casually for 8 years means they can get quite a bit done.
Einherjar is like an hour event, limbus is like an hour event. Those are casual events if you have a group to do them with.

It's not hard to join a HNM ls and still be a casual player. With Abyssea it's possible to get a job up to 80 in a few hours of play. Hell people have been offering to PAY me to let them have an abyssea slot at level 50 to "leech" when I'm shouting for abyssea members. Of course I turned them down because if anyone didn't know it takes longer to reach EXP cap if you have someone at a super low level that isnt at least 75. But really; come on. Abyssea, SMN Burning, Level Syncing with a PL are all very fast ways of getting exp even if you're a casual gamer. People who sit around LFP for ever instead of making their own pts suffer while being a casual gamer. It's not hard to get ***in the game if you work for it; you can still be a casual gamer still be in a HNM ls. Sure, it wouldn't be the biggest Endgame LS there is unless you have very close friends but really. Einherjar and Limbus aren't even big end events... Any LS with over 18 people can do it if they really wanted it.

Anyone can duo a NM in Abyssea. Sure, a casual gamer may have issues with it but practice makes perfect. People who give up just because they can't do it the first time is at a loss. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done by someone who isn't as experienced as someone who plays 24/7.

Pimpchan pretty openly admits he is a hardcore player by all of his posts, hes a elitist douche but a decent/knowledgeable player, especially for being french and all.

Yet he calls levelling up to 80 in 1 month hardcore?

Ok so your Hardcore. Then I guess your just one of them people who thought that "By making it for casual players" SE would just have everything too weak so Hardcore players can come in and get it done in a week?

what the hell is going on,
what do you think abyssea is now,
did we answer your question yet?

*you're* Don't call me a hardcore player, I play like once a week, its summer :p Have spent around 8 hours in abyssea including leveling/NMs. Only did T1's too. Also I don't think anyone thinks ^ Its not even possible to farm all the T3's required to make the final magian weapons regardless of your hardcore meter.

I think its the ability to easily jump into Abyssea that makes it more casual, not so much the actual difficulty of the content itself. However, i do believe this Event can be Hardcore AND Casual depending on which aspect of Abyssea you go for.

Most of the NMs in the zone have a very low spawn time, of roughly ~30min to 1hr30min, and can be Duo'd Trio'd, or in general low-manned by knowledgeable people or people who can learn with some directions. This makes it feel more casual, not having to Camp a NM for 3 hours, and rather in most cases have it already spawned, or simply buy the pop item off the Auction House for certain NMs!

There are Hardcore NMs however, Chloris for example taking multiple Key items and NM triggers to spawn, all of which are not 100% Drops. This NM content is definitely more hardcore and requires several players with at least basic knowledge of their jobs and basic macro gear sets and intelligence.

Abyssea exp is a prime example of how it can be casual. The ability to shout for 17 people, explain a few things, and if they're not complete morons, have the Ability to exp for large amounts for as little or as much time as you'd like, being able to easily replace yourself thanks to the popularity of said event.

its casual because of the ability to get into it without a lot of know-how, you simply need to be good at following Directions. However, the same event can easily become hardcore, Abyssea exp parties can (if you want) last several hours taking multiple of your jobs to level 80, and merits by the truckload, or you can simply spend 3-4hours exping a job from 75~80 and still walk away with more time to do other events!

As a person who's only MMO Experience comes from FFXI, i don't consider Abyssea completely Casual, nor-hardcore, like most things it varies from person to person, depending on how much time they can dedicate to it.

Now, the NMs... I'd say most of the NM's in Abyssea would be rather difficult for the untrained player, They require either know-how of your job or the right gear sets (MDT, PDT, EVA, Subtle Blow, etc), of which most "Casual" players do not have or own in a half-assed way. Still, there are several NMs even the most casual of casuals could easily get into.

TL;DR: It depends on how you play the event that defines if its Hardcore or Casual, since it has content for both of the aforementioned player types.

Clearly what P-chan really wants is to be able to solo everything in the game, so he doesn't have to waste his time helping others.

Hardcore = having enough time to help other people?