Abyssea - Casual Or Hardcore ?

If you ain't making money off playing video games, it ain't hardcore. Playing as much as we do is obsessive, and that's not a bad thing, but neither is playing casual.

Morrigan's body is better than any nuking/idle body found in abyssea... don't make generalizations that are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Just because gear is 76-80 does not mean it is better.

And what the hell kind of arguement is "Don't get that cause something better will be out in a while" I guess we should wear bronze gear from 1-80 because something will be better later huh? This is 'now' not tomorrow, not yesterday NOW. And right now, there is some very good gear that is worth getting because it is easy to do.

And don't make excuses that just because you can farm exp in an ally of 18 that it takes a long time to do or that you have to do it that way. You can pretty much grab any 75-80 person standing next to the entrance and go, the time issue is null. I got an abyssea ally pt invite just last night, they were already inside exp'ing with fully leveled mobs and time chests dropping, when someone did run out of time, they got a new person. A casual player can accept an invite to a run such as this, stay for 1:30 and then leave, or if they have time to stay they can stay for longer.

Abyssea is an event that does not require much, exp is simple, killing nms is simple. There is no bull like killing mobs with spikes up or defeat a mob in 45 secs or kill all the mobs on the floor within 7 mins.

I know you're blind to anything but your own thoughts but remove your head from your *** for a moment and realize just how much of a separation there is here. Casual players are usually not the type who dual box or have resources to let them do a duo salvage run, you still have to have 6 to enter even if you can manage to find someone willing to waste their time to help you enter with a dc trick. Unless you have a low-man salvage set, you will spend a lot of time shouting and getting help from people to assist you. And just how many casual players can solo a salvage zone boss? We aren't talking about casual players who have gaiters who know game mechanics to the degree of kaeko are we? That is not by any means casual.

Have you ever shouted for an abyssea exp run? Do you have any idea how fast you get people for it? You don't need any special set up, you don't have to have a brd/nin puller with a cor, you don't need 3 sam. You just need 18 people with anything and a healer for each pt and go. These mobs are not hard with 18, especially the frogs as they have no annoying tp attacks.

Are you the only one in this thread who hasn't done it? Perhaps that is why you're the only one arguing pointless things and oversimplifying everything else.

none of that made sense

never done salvage or tower climb or dynamis, havent finished cop or toah and am on 7 of windy missions, never done znm xnm or ynm cause i dont know what those are,
i got 2 yigit pieces and i love abyssea,

Neither does 90% of this thread, yet it's on page 8 and still going lol.

I'm just here to say that I strongly disagree with the notion that pizza < Abyssea. The entire idea is atrocious and disgusting.

well... maybe pimp can live with salvage > pizza > abyssea too :)

cause abyssea can be done hard for a week to get 6 jobs lvl 80 and tons of crour, or can be done 1 time for 1.5 hours to get a thew bomblet.

because hardcore ppl are hardcore.

A game is only as casual as you make it, and at the same time as hardcore as you choose for it to be.

It's all a matter of attitude and how you choose to approach a given objective.

See, and that's all that needed to be said... but I guess that's too boring for a thread for the OP to understand. :)

I really need to stop trying to read these post, i only got to where he started talking about Salvage drops this time.

I dont know you Pimpchan or w/e your name was, but my salvage has completed 493 complete pieces since july of 07 and nearly completed 3 mythics from strait alex drops, learn to play the *** game.

And w/e posted that pic with an alli of people killing manticore... stfu, try killing faf with 2-3 people or something then manticore try again.

You can even clear something like Dyna - Jeuno with 8-9 people.

90% of abyssea NM's can be killed with 6 people who aren't HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

XP groups do last for 5hrs+ but my party lastnight lasted 2hrs 30min's and we got 100k+ xp, learn to setup groups with cor/brds and a correct setup instead of gimpy ls friends.

You dont need to be hardcore to not suck.

Cute picture! :)

I find it endlessly amusing that some people can't wrap their head around the idea that a single piece of game content can appeal to BOTH casual and hardcore players. It's shocking to think about I know, but well...Abyssea is just that.

DONE, CLOSE THREAD!!!

P-chan is not going to give up...he has "I must have the last word, and everyone must agree with me" syndrome. His preferance is salvage.....got that...it has been established he has no experience with abyssea to make a valid comparison. If I remember what I have read, He does not have a lvl 80 job, and therefore has no idea how much more of a pain it is to find a camp for a regular merit pt in ToAU areas are. A couple of Dozen people have shared the difference between being the ease of abyssea and the difficulties with salvage/merit pt's he is still unwilling to accept any ideas other than his own.

He began the thread discussing hardcore-vs-casual playing, and most of the ppl who have responded to that have given opinions, and what it comes down to is that each views hard-core and casual diffrently. This is how individual opinions work, and not everyone is going to agree. BUT... This is unacceptable to p-chan who seems to have the need to convice every one that his is the only correct view. My question to P-chan is.... what is your definition of hardcore or casual??

AS for salvage...For the most part (not always) it takes a dedicated SP to get through that. I have not seen many pick up parties on cerberus durring the times I play. When i do the Rdm spot is always filled before they start hollering. Since it was added to the game I have been in a pick-up salvage pt Once.

Abyssea, go to WG or jeuno there are ppl hollering for or making Abyssea pt's... go to one of the new maws and stand or sit arround a bit. Contact the pt leaders inside and let them know you are there, you will prolly get contacted quickly to rep someone leaving an extended pt. Sure as hell beats sitting with a flag up for hours

no, let pimpchan reply! i wanna read more about salvage > everything and how much abyssea sucks. oh yea, and everyone who doesnt do salvage is hardcore! and everyone who does abyssea is hardcore!

The official new abyssea hymn:

I don't care what anyone says, pizza is awesome! I definitely think it's better than salvage, that's for sure. :P

Does anyone watch Blazblue Radio on Youtube? And have watched Ragna scream "HARDCORE" into the microphone?

I've been hearing that over and over in post after post in this thread. Just FYI.

HAADOCOA!! HAADOCOA!! *violent head-banging*

(And if you don't get this reference, just move along~)

pchan has friends? Alert the *** presses, all I've ever seen is mdkuser and the dualboxed alt.

Depends on the pizza, but yeah. Pizza hut is not > abyssea. :X

<--predicts the thread is about to de-rail>, i like home made pizza best. Fresh Crust and home made sauce, grab some veggies outta the garden and throw on some mushrooms.

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Suckless and learn2count, oh yeah forgot to say, higher tier NMs are not only used for magian weapons upgrades. You are as bad as the retards with 5hours+ of playtime per day, 15 level 80 that think they are casual.


Give me any piece of salvage that is not usu feet/body, I'll give you its replacement.

I can grab any 3-job combo, kill VT and do 15K per hour (at least). Infinitely easier for a casual player ; double exp with campaign ring active.

As many as casual players than can duo abyssea NMs (none)

Only ? Nice waste of effort for mythics. You could just have done 3 joyeuse instead (inbefore : burtang)


Fafnir is a joke if you don't suck, what's your point ? You think you are good because you low manned it ? Welcome to 2004.


2006 news.

No. Proof ? Show me your yhel jackets and juogi. JPs will get it before your LS, as always.

AB > abyssea, thanks for proving it to us

Pimpchan, you have gear that is NOT obtained by casual gamers, so STFU and stop telling others that they waste time on FFXI.
You are worse than a meth *** preaching about how bad drugs are.

Soki....made me LoL...hubby works for Railroad so I knew what it was.