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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:03:56  
My my, cynical aren't we?
Forgive me if I don't follow the "I don't have a choice" emo logic behind being unable to make a difference. Sadly most are too busy barely getting by or are simply too lazy to actually vote or do something.
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:08:59  
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My my, cynical aren't we? Forgive me if I don't follow the "I don't have a choice" emo logic behind being unable to make a difference. Sadly most are too busy barely getting by or are simply too lazy to actually vote or do something.

Yeah you live in the US, yeah everyone wants a change. but the reality of it is, nobody aint gonna do ***. This is life, and you have to live with it, unless you suddenly run for president and in some way shape or form win the heart of EVERYONE, nothing will be done. so good luck in advance
 
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:11:46  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
My my, cynical aren't we? Forgive me if I don't follow the "I don't have a choice" emo logic behind being unable to make a difference. Sadly most are too busy barely getting by or are simply too lazy to actually vote or do something.
I never said there is no choice, I quoted George Carlin on "the illusion of choice" and I would hardly consider either of us emo.

Really? cuz im cutting my wrists over here, its the same wherever you go "Oh i wish this this and that happened" or "This that and that would make this country better!" it just doesnt happen you know? its a little harder for people to understand when it comes to this stuff
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:12:35  
The civil rights movement is enough testimony that real people can make real change outside of simply voting.
I simply think too many people don't care, are content with the way things are, or are adamant within their ignorance.

Perhaps if people for once got the right information and gave a damn, we could have real progress from the people, and not just a guy sitting in a desk and having everyone hope good things will happen.
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By Unicorn.Roxanna 2010-07-03 04:14:31  
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The civil rights movement is enough testimony that real people can make real change outside of simply voting.
I simply think too many people don't care, are content with the way things are, or are adamant within their ignorance.

Perhaps if people for once got the right information and gave a damn, we could have real progress from the people, and not just a guy sitting in a desk and having everyone hope good things will happen.

You mean I should believe everything I see on Fox News? ZOMG *gasp*

*dies*
lol
 
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:15:56  
Unicorn.Roxanna said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
The civil rights movement is enough testimony that real people can make real change outside of simply voting. I simply think too many people don't care, are content with the way things are, or are adamant within their ignorance. Perhaps if people for once got the right information and gave a damn, we could have real progress from the people, and not just a guy sitting in a desk and having everyone hope good things will happen.
You mean I should believe everything I see on Fox News? ZOMG *gasp* *dies* lol

That'll be a day lol
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:17:08  
Just for fun >:3



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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:18:17  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
The civil rights movement is enough testimony that real people can make real change outside of simply voting.
I simply think too many people don't care, are content with the way things are, or are adamant within their ignorance.

Perhaps if people for once got the right information and gave a damn, we could have real progress from the people, and not just a guy sitting in a desk and having everyone hope good things will happen.

So we just jump off the Spicy had some points to discuss wagon in the flip of a hat I see.

Oh you had good points, but they were wrapped thickly in pessimism, so they looked more like opinionated half-truths which didn't give much basis to discuss upon.
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:18:58  
"Live from britain we are going to watch the queen sit down. Everyone eagerly watch as she elegantly places her arse on the throne and does *** all." Right!
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:20:56  
And by misinformation, I mean doing something other than giving angry city hall rallies that contredict your own interests and well... this



These people want to cut the deficit, yet demand tax cuts. This correlation is about as logical as thinking getting a handjob will clean out your garage.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-03 04:21:24  
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My my, cynical aren't we? Forgive me if I don't follow the "I don't have a choice" emo logic behind being unable to make a difference. Sadly most are too busy barely getting by or are simply too lazy to actually vote or do something.
Choice is an illusion to make us feel we have control of our lives. Given the exact same set of experiences and situations you would've chosen the same thing no matter how many times you replay it if you could
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:23:06  
That's quite a paradox Das. However, the same can be said about safety. Doesn't mean we should just ignore precautions and actions that can prevent potential disaster, which sadly will occur regardless of how careful we are or whatever choices we make.
 
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:23:18  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
My my, cynical aren't we? Forgive me if I don't follow the "I don't have a choice" emo logic behind being unable to make a difference. Sadly most are too busy barely getting by or are simply too lazy to actually vote or do something.
Choice is an illusion to make us feel we have control of our lives. Given the exact same set of experiences and situations you would've chosen the same thing no matter how many times you replay it if you could

Control wont be so easily given to us, its an eternal time paradox. your destined to choose the same choice every single time, no loop holes This is where your going and your gonna do it now >_>
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-03 04:24:17  
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That's quite a paradox Das. However, the same can be said about safety. Doesn't mean we should just ignore precautions and actions that can prevent potential disaster, which sadly will occur regardless of how careful we are or whatever choices we make.
Of course it doesn't. After all that is not our choice either ;)
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:25:25  
Oh I dunno. I haven't been any further east than Utah sadly, but I'd love to travel sometime, and if I can have identical luxuries like fast internet, movie theaters, pizza delivery and tax returns, I think I wouldn't mind living in another country.

I hear Italy is quite beautiful.
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:25:32  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
That's quite a paradox Das. However, the same can be said about safety. Doesn't mean we should just ignore precautions and actions that can prevent potential disaster, which sadly will occur regardless of how careful we are or whatever choices we make.
Of course it doesn't. After all that is not our choice either ;)

We go with the flow and hope it takes us somewhere good, but the chances of that happening are extremely slim
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:26:25  
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Oh I dunno. I haven't been any further east than Utah sadly, but I'd love to travel sometime, and if I can have identical luxuries like fast internet, movie theaters, pizza delivery and tax returns, I think I wouldn't mind living in another country. I hear Italy is quite beautiful.

Welcome to the UK, i hope you enjoy your stay.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-07-03 04:26:40  
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Just for fun >:3

LOL
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-03 04:27:06  
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Oh I dunno. I haven't been any further east than Utah sadly, but I'd love to travel sometime, and if I can have identical luxuries like fast internet, movie theaters, pizza delivery and tax returns, I think I wouldn't mind living in another country.

I hear Italy is quite beautiful.
Like stuff east of Utah is any good ;)
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:27:54  
It's a paradox. We have influence to the conditions of reality, yet we are trapped within unavoidable circumstances that would exist regardless of actions taken by one or masses.

No wonder so many people simply just vote and hope for the best lol.
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By Unicorn.Roxanna 2010-07-03 04:29:16  
36 PAGES?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:29:36  
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It's a paradox. We have influence to the conditions of reality, yet we are trapped within unavoidable circumstances that would exist regardless of actions taken by one or masses. No wonder so many people simply just vote and hope for the best lol.

Not like they choose who they vote for anyway
 
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:30:51  
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Wait, did we just full-circle conversation over 36 pages? o.O?

Yes we did
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By Unicorn.Roxanna 2010-07-03 04:30:59  
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Wait, did we just full-circle conversation over 36 pages? o.O?
I think so
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-03 04:31:32  
Well, one message rings loud and true above all else, regardless of any political/political argument :D




John had it right the whole time.
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By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-07-03 04:33:13  
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Well, one message rings loud and true above all else, regardless of any political/political argument :D John had it right the whole time.

Good times, although its a bit depressing lol



Mama cass makes it better :3
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