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 Asura.Alymorel
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-06-29 03:28:40  
I... will never be able to get that kind of item set... ; ;
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 03:28:45  
Your KJ is lacking lots of accuracy. Do you even have full great axe merits?

Here is my set. Obviously needs some improvements



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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-06-29 03:30:28  
Fenrir.Tool said:
So it would seem RR is best for overall consistency, while KJ is more of a DA spike damage thing from the sound of it.

Which also raises my silly question of: how does one exactly know or figure out which weapon skills have that native "attack boost" or other fancy term that allows one to gear strictly towards mods over needing attack increases to maximize damage like gekko, yuki and kasha?

Check the wiki!

Steel cyclone, Spinning slash, Ground strike, Mandalic stab are the non-gkt ws I can think of with a big atk-bonus atm.

On multihit attack is allways important.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-06-29 03:31:54  
Gotcha, I'm still learning so, I figure the sooner I know the more ahead of the curve I'll be. Seems like those apply mostly to those huge TP modified one hitters while multi-hits will always depend greatly upon atk and accuracy alike.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-06-29 03:33:37  
Seraph.Rafik said:
Your KJ is lacking lots of accuracy. Do you even have full great axe merits?

Here is my set. Obviously needs some improvements




The ***? Which wanderers were those? I was at the 3rd floor memory flux promy-mea ones the other day on BLU, we have a BRD had a decked out DRG and full usu MNK and SAM, and they never went above 1k WS somehow, except for like one 1500 sonic thrust, dunno why. :x
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By Ragnarok.Aishi 2010-06-29 03:34:56  
Hmmm... With that equip, the only thing that could make you doing only 200 dmg it's a hit or two missing, i'd suggest you to swap the hands with something that gives attack or accuracy, if you're not able to get something like heca, dex-6 is really gonna kick your critical hit rate, as well as your accuracy, you should also swap the smilodon+1 with a forager's mantle, attack+15 helps a lot more than the 2 str you're gonna lose equipping it, i hope you solve your problem soon, try those 2 pieces of gear, and let me know how it goes! =)
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 03:35:50  
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
Your KJ is lacking lots of accuracy. Do you even have full great axe merits?

Here is my set. Obviously needs some improvements




The ***? Which wanderers were those? I was at the 3rd floor memory flux promy-mea ones the other day on BLU, we have a BRD had a decked out DRG and full usu MNK and SAM, and they never went above 1k WS somehow, except for like one 1500 sonic thrust, dunno why. :x

they were from holla i was war/sam

are you serious about the sam not even breaking 1k gekko? My sam broke that no problem...
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-06-29 03:36:21  
Ragnarok.Aishi said:
dex-6 is really gonna kick your critical hit rate, as well as your accuracy

Alky dont *** with KJs crit rate, as KJ can't crit :P
But it makes you lose acc, so it's nasty unless you'r capped anyways.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-06-29 03:37:33  
It's definitely without a doubt that you're missing hits. Eat some sushi, and try again. I can't possibly see how you could do that low of a number, unless you're using defender and WSing in TP gear and missing hits...:x
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-06-29 03:38:14  
Well, thank you for the help everyone. I'm not going to be able to try anything out in a PT setting until tomorrow (it's 4:30 AM), but I'll respond tomorrow night.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-06-29 03:39:46  
Seraph.Rafik said:
are you serious about the sam not even breaking 1k gekko? My sam broke that no problem...

Yeah, no *** clue why rofl, although we also might have been 76 and my memory isnt serving me right. It was on the 3rd floor mea by the memory flux though
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-06-29 03:40:27  
Eat Pizza, not sushi.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-06-29 03:41:14  
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Eat Pizza, not sushi.

^

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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-06-29 03:41:16  
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Eat Pizza, not sushi.

Best of both worlds. Especially if you're not using those "atk boost" weapon skills. Gives good freedom to capitalize on haste gear without sacrificing anything.

Now if only SE sold em by the slice <3
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-06-29 03:43:06  
I ONLY use King's Justice when I have Aggressor up or sneak it in to close a Light SC lol. It's not worth it over RR if you don't have Aggressor up (imo) since your RR set will have more accuracy in it from the DEX and you only stack STR/Attack for KJ.
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-06-29 03:43:47  
Well, one last thing, the thing I was PTing on tonight that finally caused me to make this thread was this *** here. If that means anything to you guys... /shrug
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 03:43:55  
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
are you serious about the sam not even breaking 1k gekko? My sam broke that no problem...

Yeah, no *** clue why rofl, although we also might have been 76 and my memory isnt serving me right. It was on the 3rd floor mea by the memory flux though

I was 76 eating Yellow Curry Bun on War and Pizza on Sam for those things.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-06-29 03:44:53  
Asura.Alymorel said:
Well, one last thing, the thing I was PTing on tonight that finally caused me to make this thread was this *** here. If that means anything to you guys... /shrug

It's a Roc, they're generally evasive.

Edit: Not that evasive but they like to spam Feather Barrier for Evasion Boost.
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By Ragnarok.Aishi 2010-06-29 03:47:44  
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ragnarok.Aishi said:
dex-6 is really gonna kick your critical hit rate, as well as your accuracy
Alky dont *** with KJs crit rate, as KJ can't crit :P But it makes you lose acc, so it's nasty unless you'r capped anyways.

Aye, it was a general comment more than a specific for this problem, just to say him that dex- is meh in multi-hit weaponskills and it's gonna make them suck if his accuracy is not capped =)!
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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-06-29 03:49:52  
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Asura.Alymorel said:
Well, one last thing, the thing I was PTing on tonight that finally caused me to make this thread was this *** here. If that means anything to you guys... /shrug

It's a Roc, they're generally evasive.

Edit: Not that evasive but they like to spam Feather Barrier for Evasion Boost.

Actually, he was spamming the "I'mma one-shot the sam!" move. XD
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 03:53:52  
Asura.Alymorel said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Asura.Alymorel said:
Well, one last thing, the thing I was PTing on tonight that finally caused me to make this thread was this *** here. If that means anything to you guys... /shrug

It's a Roc, they're generally evasive.

Edit: Not that evasive but they like to spam Feather Barrier for Evasion Boost.

Actually, he was spamming the "I'mma one-shot the sam!" move. XD

I know that move and hate that bird for Limbus... Killed me so many times with that move lol
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By Odin.Karusan 2010-06-29 03:56:12  
I was under the impression Abraxas resist slashing
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-29 04:25:31  
Here is a few Cheap, and easily obtained things you could try.

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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 04:27:33  
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Here is a few Cheap, and easily obtained things you could try.


you still up? Isnt it like 5am for you?
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-29 04:29:50  
Seraph.Rafik said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Here is a few Cheap, and easily obtained things you could try.
you still up? Isnt it like 5am for you?

Yes it's 5 am lol

I just woke up
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 04:31:09  
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Here is a few Cheap, and easily obtained things you could try.
you still up? Isnt it like 5am for you?

Yes it's 5 am lol

I just woke up

i am going to bed 2:30 am here <.<
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-06-29 04:31:49  
Odin.Karusan said:
I was under the impression Abraxas resist slashing

I think they resist blunt attacks, but I could be mistaken.
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-29 04:33:52  
Seraph.BobTheBuilder said:

Nice KJ >_>

Edit: Not very good Xp/hr though <.<;;
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By Ifrit.Kotone 2010-06-29 04:36:52  
Asura.Alymorel said:
Well, one last thing, the thing I was PTing on tonight that finally caused me to make this thread was this *** here. If that means anything to you guys... /shrug


If you got worried from your damage on Rocs, remember that they are resistant to slashing damage (axes, swords, katana), so it's likely that your KJ at least isn't gimped, you're just up against a naturally tougher opponent. Maybe compare the damages on something else?
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-29 04:39:08  
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Seraph.BobTheBuilder said:

Nice KJ >_>

Edit: Not very good Xp/hr though <.<;;

I was just glad I could come war/sam and not war/nin for voke... Had a nin with relic katana.
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