Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol w/e dude...they just massively nerfed my fave job somethin fierce
SAM Update?
SAM Update?
they didn't nerf the job at all O.o they just gave the ability from sam to other jobs...they didn't change SAM at all other than lowering the sekk ***...which isn't a nerf...its an improvement..
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Cerberus.Deadplaything said:
For those who have not looked through the job traits. Hagun will be replaced finally. Sam sub warrior at 90 will get fencer at war 45. Gives a Tp bonus to weaponskills. Thats something good to lookforward to. and I also look forward to Haguns worth 20 k lol
I think the Fencer ability will apply to single/main hand only weapons. I don't foresee SAMs switching their Haguns out for swords just to use Fencer as SAM90/WAR45.
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Anything that isn't boosting it to a desired volume is a nerf. If it's not what people want = nerf. RNG didn't get a min Eagle Eye Shot ability, nerf!
but y play sam now when you can self skillchain with any job?
Midgardsormr.Soki said:
but y play sam now when you can self skillchain with any job?
yes, because being able to self skillchain every 3mins is the whole purpose of playing sam.
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Midgardsormr.Soki said:
but y play sam now when you can self skillchain with any job?
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Sam didn't get nerfed...SE just gently slid their finger up it's butt.
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SAM didn't get Tachi: Death. Nerf.
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Leviathan.Dubont said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol w/e dude...they just massively nerfed my fave job somethin fierce
whats the other reason? i can now do self thf sc, war. drg. dnc.
Caitsith.Omicronceti said:
Sam didn't get nerfed...SE just gently slid their finger up it's butt.
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Leviathan.Dubont said:
Midgardsormr.Soki said:
but y play sam now when you can self skillchain with any job?
Most sams running around are six hit, which is pretty easy to pull off on other 2hnd DD jobs.
Cerberus.Deadplaything said:
For those who have not looked through the job traits. Hagun will be replaced finally. Sam sub warrior at 90 will get fencer at war 45. Gives a Tp bonus to weaponskills. Thats something good to lookforward to. and I also look forward to Haguns worth 20 k lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Fencer:"Increases rate of critical hits when wielding with the main hand only. Grants a TP bonus to weapon skills." To me that sounds an awful like single hand wielding to me. Making WAR and BST going sword/axe + shield to balance out the 2handed weapon update a while ago and grips for 2handed weapons. Same with Hasso/Seigan only works with 2handed.
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Phoenix.Elanabelle said:
Cerberus.Deadplaything said:
For those who have not looked through the job traits. Hagun will be replaced finally. Sam sub warrior at 90 will get fencer at war 45. Gives a Tp bonus to weaponskills. Thats something good to lookforward to. and I also look forward to Haguns worth 20 k lol
I think the Fencer ability will apply to single/main hand only weapons. I don't foresee SAMs switching their Haguns out for swords just to use Fencer as SAM90/WAR45.
Just beat my post
Yes, but with the rest of the adjustment, your skillchains are stronger than theirs anyway. And only your skillchains will have the magic damage boost, too.
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Alexander.Nepharite said:
yes, because being able to self skillchain every 3mins is the whole purpose of playing sam.
Never know, maybe SE will pop out a 10 minute Sekk for sub-job lawl, I see that as very very probable.
oops
maybe "nerf" is the wrong word then....downgraded compared to other jobs now that sekka got put into sub level and sam not given "Sam-like" JTs that the other jobs got...dnc will probably be able to out parse a sam now if you work your dnc right, as will drg (and from what I'm looking it might outparse by a ***)
edit: because now Dnc can have MASSIVE DD potential with /war or /sam, with climactic flourish + saber danc + joy off-hand (with now native DW) + conserve tp kicking in on self SCs (dnc now has 2 JAs that will allow them to self SC)
but don't get me wrong i'm still gonna push my sam as hard as i can with the build i like...but still...those jobs got a massive DD boost that sam didn't
edit: because now Dnc can have MASSIVE DD potential with /war or /sam, with climactic flourish + saber danc + joy off-hand (with now native DW) + conserve tp kicking in on self SCs (dnc now has 2 JAs that will allow them to self SC)
but don't get me wrong i'm still gonna push my sam as hard as i can with the build i like...but still...those jobs got a massive DD boost that sam didn't
it just feels like SE is trying to make SAM a subjob onry.. dropping Sekk to 40 is just a dickmove
Sam needs to be a sub only. There are way too many *** SAMs running around and NO LIE, was in a pty earlier and the mf leader would not get a drk or a rng for the last member...he wanted a sam...and we already had 2...
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Ramuh.Krazyy said:
it just feels like SE is trying to make SAM a subjob onry.. dropping Sekk to 40 is just a dickmove
ya..that sums up my thoughts on it quite nicely lol
hmmmmmm i think SE nerf it to a stupid recast time, gives Sam an awesome WS that no one can compete with and back to Sam onry!
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Leviathan.Dubont said:
Sam needs to be a sub only. There are way too many *** SAMs running around and NO LIE, was in a pty earlier and the mf leader would not get a drk or a rng for the last member...he wanted a sam...and we already had 2...
well thats your dumb leader's fault..not sam being a good DD's fault
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at first i was all WTF, sam can do hella ***now. all related to two hand weapons and now can 6 ws sc.
now im all, SE thinks the SAM ability is cool and the dual wield, so not lets see if others will sub sam and dnc more
F them in the A, should have kept sam a stand alone job like DRG, MNK, DRK, PUP, PLD, meaning these are just not mainly subbed in all situations and rather a true end game job
not that i will ever take nin or dnc past 50, but not i might not even take sam past
now im all, SE thinks the SAM ability is cool and the dual wield, so not lets see if others will sub sam and dnc more
F them in the A, should have kept sam a stand alone job like DRG, MNK, DRK, PUP, PLD, meaning these are just not mainly subbed in all situations and rather a true end game job
not that i will ever take nin or dnc past 50, but not i might not even take sam past
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
but don't get me wrong i'm still gonna push my sam as hard as i can with the build i like...but still...those jobs got a massive DD boost that sam didn't
You kidding me, right?
Let me know when other jobs get an ability as powerful as overwhelm. Oh, and Higher tiers of STP! or up to 180 TP from Meditate. Or a WS that pretty much insta-caps pDif on like, 99.9% of the monsters in the game.
SAM doesn't need a damn thing.
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Boy, Linear sure knows how to exaggerate.
Less QQ, moar pew pew please.
Less QQ, moar pew pew please.
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Leviathan.Dubont said:
Sam needs to be a sub only. There are way too many *** SAMs running around and NO LIE, was in a pty earlier and the mf leader would not get a drk or a rng for the last member...he wanted a sam...and we already had 2...
well thats your dumb leader's fault..not sam being a good DD's fault
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Leviathan.Dubont said:
Sam needs to be a sub only. There are way too many *** SAMs running around and NO LIE, was in a pty earlier and the mf leader would not get a drk or a rng for the last member...he wanted a sam...and we already had 2...
Wait, what? Alot of people play a job so let's make it subjob only?
I guess it's time to nerf RDM!
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too many ppl play it that this game is becoming SAM ONRY b/c no one else levels a different *** DD. What jobs do you have? whm blm sch rdm sam. Ok...we need a drk, you there, what jobs do you have? Brd, blm, sch, Sam. Well god damnit
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