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 Odin.Blazza
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-06-11 12:29:20  
and sch? <_<
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By Asura.Citag 2010-06-11 12:29:52  
Odin.Blazza said:
and sch? <_<

Sch doesnt count. Its like the ugly stepchild.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-06-11 12:31:18  
Oh, and I totally forgot my other question (that I don't actually expect anyone to have the answer to yet), what happens to our merits? RDM is a good example for this, merit spells, will they now become available to all rdm's, or will there still be a set of level 75 merits, and perhaps later on another set of level 99 merits?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:33:34  
Odin.Blazza said:
Oh, and I totally forgot my other question (that I don't actually expect anyone to have the answer to yet), what happens to our merits? RDM is a good example for this, merit spells, will they now become available to all rdm's, or will there still be a set of level 75 merits, and perhaps later on another set of level 99 merits?
I ask that myself and everyone seems to assume that mages will just get *** on merits since they rely on new tiers while melees can just use more and more jas.

I hope they do something like give us our merit ones but at full potency from a scroll and after so many lvls (like by 99) the merit ones will become unlocked as the tier after if you learned it from scroll
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:34:10  
Asura.Citag said:
Odin.Blazza said:
I'm just wondering what level we will start getting T4 nukes.
Never! BLM Onry!
Whatever rdm didn't even used to have T3... but then again we had cure V
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-06-11 12:38:01  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Citag said:
Odin.Blazza said:
I'm just wondering what level we will start getting T4 nukes.
Never! BLM Onry!
Whatever rdm didn't even used to have T3... but then again we had cure V

We never actually had it, they removed RDM from the scroll when they raised the cap high enough to use it:P
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:38:44  
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Citag said:
Odin.Blazza said:
I'm just wondering what level we will start getting T4 nukes.
Never! BLM Onry!
Whatever rdm didn't even used to have T3... but then again we had cure V
We never actually had it, they removed RDM from the scroll when they raised the cap high enough to use it:P
Close enough!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-06-11 12:40:40  
Asura.Citag said:
Odin.Blazza said:
and sch? <_<

Sch doesnt count. Its like the ugly stepchild.

That's better ;)
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By Asura.Citag 2010-06-11 12:40:51  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Citag said:
Odin.Blazza said:
I'm just wondering what level we will start getting T4 nukes.
Never! BLM Onry!
Whatever rdm didn't even used to have T3... but then again we had cure V

Whatever your face! Go fish. <3
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:41:45  
Asura.Citag said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Citag said:
Odin.Blazza said:
I'm just wondering what level we will start getting T4 nukes.
Never! BLM Onry!
Whatever rdm didn't even used to have T3... but then again we had cure V
Whatever your face! Go fish. <3
I wam fishing! Though I need to start lvling subs now that I got enough monies for now lol
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By Asura.Citag 2010-06-11 12:42:37  
Ugh. 43 whm now, 37 rng to go. Almost done! Didnt take as long as I thought it would to get the 5 done that I wanted.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:46:54  
Ramuh.Rowland said:
Das! Start a party for my 45sam or 39war in like 4 hours!
***I'm only going to 40 for now on a few jobs... oh yeah need to unlock cor first lol. Anyways you do it!!! I might be on by then
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:49:08  
Oh yeah and wondering how low they are going to lower sekki and if it will work with chain affinity especially with spells that have good tp dmg mods. Or at the very least savage blade + expiacon + VC
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-06-11 12:49:43  
I don't see any of the /sub making any real differance @ lv 80. When we get lv 90+ is when you will see major changes in how the lv inc affets gameplay.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:51:57  
Too bad we don't get innin /nin. Blm/nin would rock then
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-06-11 12:52:52  
A lot of things on many jobs are learned at Lv40. How would that not make a huge difference?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-06-11 12:53:56  
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Too bad we don't get innin /nin. Blm/nin would rock then

mnk\nin and thf\nin would have been so broken lol
+30% crit rate ftw?
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-11 12:57:34  
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I don't see any of the /sub making any real differance @ lv 80. When we get lv 90 is when you will see major changes in how the lv inc affets gameplay.
So...Haste and Convert aren't going to "make any real difference"? Haste and Convert are 2 of the spells/JA that are talked about the most when talking about lvl cap increase.

80/40 is going to be huge in a lot of different ways, think how much easier Gods, Jailers, HNM, Kirrin, and many others are going to be @80. (Not saying these aren't easy now, but just imagine.) And this doesn't include Limbus/Dynamis because we aren't sure how lvl increase will effect those zones. Certain zones can almost be solo'd now just imagine another 5 lvls with Convert for blm's...you could have only 6~7 ppl and farm 3 zones easily. IMO 5 lvl's with new SJ AB/Spells is gunna unlocks lots of stuff.

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 12:58:32  
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
mnk\nin and thf\nin would have been so broken lol
+30% crit rate ftw?
Mnk would probably pull hate but yeah until then lol. Rng too if it didn't pull hate

But to mean +30% dmg generally looks more exciting then +30% crit hit chance. Might be a good reason they didn't do it lol
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-06-11 12:59:18  
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A lot of things on many jobs are learned at Lv40. How would that not make a huge difference?

well ex. /cor @ 40 QD Rng only /nin has been gimped /war gets nothing /rdm convert(sure it will be gimped) /sch is gimped /rng gimped my point is that only a hand full of subs will give new stuff @ lv 40 and those have been severly gimped. Only 2 jobs i see changing gameplay @ 40 is maybe /sch and /rdm
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-06-11 13:02:12  
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Odin.Kalico said:
I don't see any of the /sub making any real differance @ lv 80. When we get lv 90 is when you will see major changes in how the lv inc affets gameplay.
So...Haste and Convert aren't going to "make any real difference"? Haste and Convert are 2 of the spells/JA that are talked about the most when talking about lvl cap increase. 80/40 is going to be huge in a lot of different ways, think how much easier Gods, Jailers, HNM, Kirrin, and many others are going to be @80. (Not saying these aren't easy now, but just imagine.) And this doesn't include Limbus/Dynamis because we aren't sure how lvl increase will effect those zones. Certain zones can almost be solo'd now just imagine another 5 lvls with Convert for blm's...you could have only 6~7 ppl and farm 3 zones easily. IMO 5 lvl's with new SJ AB/Spells is gunna unlocks lots of stuff.

I'm speaking on lv 40 subs affect on main jobs not the affect of a lv 80 job on gameplay
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-06-11 13:03:49  
All the JA/Spells and lvl increase is gunna be awesome and all..but the thing I am looking forward to most of all is FREE KRAKEN for ~3 Months!
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-06-11 13:03:54  
Seeing that every party and endgame event has a mage with /Sch or /Rdm, it'll certainly make a huge difference.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-06-11 13:04:24  
Odin.Kalico said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Odin.Kalico said:
I don't see any of the /sub making any real differance @ lv 80. When we get lv 90 is when you will see major changes in how the lv inc affets gameplay.
So...Haste and Convert aren't going to "make any real difference"? Haste and Convert are 2 of the spells/JA that are talked about the most when talking about lvl cap increase. 80/40 is going to be huge in a lot of different ways, think how much easier Gods, Jailers, HNM, Kirrin, and many others are going to be @80. (Not saying these aren't easy now, but just imagine.) And this doesn't include Limbus/Dynamis because we aren't sure how lvl increase will effect those zones. Certain zones can almost be solo'd now just imagine another 5 lvls with Convert for blm's...you could have only 6~7 ppl and farm 3 zones easily. IMO 5 lvl's with new SJ AB/Spells is gunna unlocks lots of stuff.

I'm speaking on lv 40 subs affect on main jobs not the affect of a lv 80 job on gameplay
You can't really separate the two. If it affects the main job, it affects the gameplay.

Feel free to give me an example otherwise.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 13:04:57  
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Seeing that every party and endgame event has a mage with /Sch or /Rdm, it'll certainly make a huge difference.
Not to mention the main only real draw of /whm over /sch for rdm was erase.
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By Gilgamesh.Tirantus 2010-06-11 13:07:12  
Can't say I like the idea of totally cutting out certain abilities from being available as a support job. I expected it, but still don't like it. Even if the JA was severely gimped as a sub is still better than just not getting it at all.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-06-11 13:14:05  
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Can't say I like the idea of totally cutting out certain abilities from being available as a support job. I expected it, but still don't like it. Even if the JA was severely gimped as a sub is still better than just not getting it at all.

I don't care how much you gimp Yonin and Innin, that ***would've still been ridiculous.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-11 13:17:35  
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Gilgamesh.Tirantus said:
Can't say I like the idea of totally cutting out certain abilities from being available as a support job. I expected it, but still don't like it. Even if the JA was severely gimped as a sub is still better than just not getting it at all.
I don't care how much you gimp Yonin and Innin, that ***would've still been ridiculous.
Reduce it to like 5% and raise the recast timer on it!
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