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 Seraph.Rafik
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-22 10:59:29  
I leave kitty pants on for RR and also use Iota Ring for it got dex as well as some accu. Assault Earring would probably be better for RR, I personally use hollow. Bushi is fine for KJ or SC.

I mostly use KJ when begressor is up
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By Sylph.Ashaaman 2010-05-22 11:06:32  
I use Alky's on my KJ build for the simple fact that you have tons of accuracy in other places, and you can really feel the difference, whereas the minus dex is hardly noticeable.
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-05-22 11:11:05  
Generally KJ is used when berserk/aggressor is up, so alkys would be the prime choice.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-22 11:12:57  
Also to add when you use Mighty Strikes, use KJ.
 
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-22 12:10:44  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
IDK if it's been mentioned yet or not but you could keep the Blitz Ring in full time and not worry about that and get a pair of Aurum Sabatons instead of Dusk Feet 1. Personally I HATE dusk gear with a passion 8X except the gloves which is a must.
Yea, I know of Aurum, just looking of stuff i can have available to me WHEN I ding 75, the upgrades will come later. I won't have aurum by the time I ding though.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-22 12:17:23  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
IDK if it's been mentioned yet or not but you could keep the Blitz Ring in full time and not worry about that and get a pair of Aurum Sabatons instead of Dusk Feet 1. Personally I HATE dusk gear with a passion 8X except the gloves which is a must.

It's more efficient to keep the Dusk Feet +1 and trade the Core for a Bomblet in this scenario.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-22 13:30:27  
Before food, you are at 359.9 Acc. With Pizza +1 you are at 399.489 acc and with aggressor you are at 424.489 acc.

I think changing to Bomblet would prob be your best bet as it will bring you to 406.149 with pizza +1

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By Sylph.Kozuki 2010-05-22 13:36:13  
I would never use(except when agressor is up ~_~) a bomb core over fire bomblet, or a +7 attk earring over fowling/hollow, but that's just me.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-22 13:38:19  
Aggressor up?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-22 13:40:32  
Sylph.Kimble said:
Before food, you are at 359.9 Acc. With Pizza 1 you are at 399.489 acc and with aggressor you are at 424.489 acc.

I think changing to Bomblet would prob be your best bet as it will bring you to 406.149 with pizza 1


This looks a bit low to me.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-22 13:43:02  
Sylph.Kozuki said:
I would never use(except when agressor is up ~_~) a bomb core over fire bomblet, or a 7 attk earring over fowling/hollow, but that's just me.

Well, you're definitely right about this in accuracy-uncapped situations for sure.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-22 13:44:42  
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
Before food, you are at 359.9 Acc. With Pizza 1 you are at 399.489 acc and with aggressor you are at 424.489 acc.

I think changing to Bomblet would prob be your best bet as it will bring you to 406.149 with pizza 1


This looks a bit low to me.

he wont have gaxe merits so that could be why it looks low.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-22 13:46:34  
Well, to clear things up, yea I plan on aggressor up, like I said just looking for something I can throw together w/ what I have now as a mapout. As far as the acc, is that including merits? I don't plan to use this job after I ding 75 till all my DD associated merits are capped. (Assuming they raise combat merits this next update otehrwise probably won't use the job at all)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-22 13:47:30  
Sylph.Kimble said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
Before food, you are at 359.9 Acc. With Pizza 1 you are at 399.489 acc and with aggressor you are at 424.489 acc.

I think changing to Bomblet would prob be your best bet as it will bring you to 406.149 with pizza 1


This looks a bit low to me.

he wont have gaxe merits so that could be why it looks low.
Actually leveling on the basis that they increase combat merits. I heard somewhere they were doing one of these updates and I have a lot of the gear for it anyways so good way to stock up on conquest points and isp even if they don't.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-22 13:48:09  
I didnt add in merits because I knew you didnt have room for it and I havent heard anything about raising the merit limits.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-22 13:49:51  
Assuming they don't raise the cap, this job will probably never see the light of day tbh lol
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By Sylph.Kozuki 2010-05-22 13:50:34  
You have 16 unused magic skill merits.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-22 13:51:21  
Sylph.Kozuki said:
You have 16 unused magic merits.
hurray!
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-22 13:52:40  
Oh, I forgot about hasso so you would be at 409.489 acc with your set using pizza +1 So, I guess you would be fine.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-22 13:55:35  
With 68 dex (assuming) and 276+7 skill, hasso and fire bomblet you'd have 380 accuracy.

Edit: With pizza that seems fine to me for low eva stuff.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-22 14:00:01  
Im getting 375.9 acc with hasso and fire bomblet. I wonder if im missing some dex...
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-22 14:03:47  
Oh I see, I *** up on the dex lol. Sorry >_>
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-22 14:04:18  
Still, not too bad for lowish eva mobs.
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By Remora.Laphine 2010-05-22 14:55:39  
just to nitpick there is not decimal accuracy. Actually not a nitpick cause this is important ><

For example with fully merited pole arm i got 292 skill on drg. When adding love torque it actually gives me 7 acc (not 6.3 and not 6) cause decimals are truncated. If i had 290 skill love torque would give me only 6 acc.

The same goes with dex on love torque. Those 5 dex can give either 3 or 4 acc depending on overall dex. Love torque then has the potential to give someone 11 dex.

So vegetto's acc should be 359.

On the topic, thats some great dinging gear Vegetto lol. Will work nicely with pizza as you pointed.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-05-22 17:20:41  
Sylph.Kozuki said:
I would never use(except when agressor is up ~_~) a bomb core over fire bomblet, or a 7 attk earring over fowling/hollow, but that's just me.


fowling? what's assault, chopped liver?
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-24 07:16:40  
I leafed through quickly (so maybe repeating people) and the main things I would say is:

* Aggressor versions for every set, you’re a smart guy, you can calculate the accuracy trades
* Accuracy earring for TP, Bomblet and PCC would be better most of the time (unless you are sure you are capped).
* Your proposed TP build looks more like an ‘aggressor up’ build to me (although that is obviously mob dependant)
* Alkys for KJ (with aggressor)
* I would consider a RR build, talk to Sath or some of the WARs about it (he seems to use RR 90% of the time)

Then its whiteboxes, 6STR ring, e.body etc etc.

As for your Aurum body idea, you are losing quite a bit of DoT (~20 attack) for a pretty small increase in WS frequency. If I have 10mins today I will have a think about it and do some maths.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-24 07:26:53  
He said he'll only be using Pizza with it.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-24 07:42:18  
@ Drac, pizza is great, but it's 'only' 40 (44) acc. And einherjar has some odd mobs some of which have some pretty high evasion for a 'trash' mob. So you may not be able to get away with saying 'I am eating pizza so everything is fine'. Although a parse or 2 will soon give you an idea.

@ The Aurum idea:
15 att, 2 acc, 2 DA VS 3 STR, 6 DEX, -3% delay

Your average attack is going to be around 520 (roughtly) so 15 attack will be around 2.5-3% increase in TP phase damge

2 acc… Depends if you need it, but assuming you do, that’s 2.1% global damage.

2 DA on top of fully merited DA and Brutal is around 1.6% increase in global damage.

So you are looking at 5.35% (assuming a 60:40 WS:TP ratio) for the pole+hauby build (3.25% if you don’t need the accuracy)

3 STR is probably going to give you 1 fSTR, so that will be around 1% increase in global damage

6 DEX is going to increase your crit rate, by how much is very hard to say, and how much damage that will give you is even harder.

-3% Delay is 3% increase in global damage (if it doesn’t break your build, which it doesn’t here).

So the Aurum build will be 4-5% (guesstimate on the upper bound), so if you don’t need the 2 acc from the hauby set up then Aurum looks good.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-24 08:06:03  
I know how much Pizza gives :P But on easier mobs he'll likely be fine. For the weird mobs he can always pop Aggressor anyways.
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