Nuke Cape Assistance

Question for those experienced with Magic Damage Formulas + those whom are bored. I am very curious, with my current set ups, which cape is stronger strictly in terms of damage, not resist rates, Hecate or Ixion? And if it varies based on Uggy/Obi/Tonbon/Spell Tier, would like to know which cape wins in which situation.

I only really use Black Mage for easy things such as Limbus zones / Ix'Aerns, so not dealing with HNMs with high base INT. Hardest Enemy I'll Blm for is likely Ultima/Omega/lolGenbu.

If anyone takes the time to help me figure this out, thank you kindly. The below information is a bit redundant, so I apologize.


(Cream Puffs are always on and 5/5 both potencies)
Ixion Cape-

Ice Nukes:
INT: 72+52 MP above 51%, No Obi/Day Bonus
MAB: BLM Traits + HQ Staff + 34

UGGY/Day Active:
INT: 72+36
MAB: Traits + HQ Staff + 42 + Obi/Pants effect


Non Ice:
72+47 MP above 51%, No Obi/Day Bonus
MAB: BLM Traits + HQ Staves + 34

UGGY/Day Active:
INT: 72+31
MAB: Traits + HQ Staves + 42 + Obi/Pants effect



Hecate's Cape:

Ice:
INT:72+47
MAB: Traits + HQ Staff + 37
Uggy/Obi:
INT: 72+31
MAB: Traits + HQ Staff + 45 + Obi/Pants

Non Ice:
INT: 72+42
MAB: Trait + HQ Staves + 37
Uggy/Obi:
INT: 72+26
MAB: Traits + HQ Staves + 45 + Obi/Pants

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Calculating_Magic_Damage

Not quite bored enough to do it for your set up too but... for me, a taru with full merits, int+42, and mab+29, without staves or back hecate's wins for ice/thun4 and AM2.

Ixion Cape:

Ice Nukes:
INT: 72+52 MP above 51%, No Obi/Day Bonus
MAB: BLM Traits + HQ Staff + 34

Freeze II: 1973, Blizzard IV: 1457, Blizzard III: 942

UGGY/Day Active:
INT: 72+36
MAB: Traits + HQ Staff + 42 + Obi/Pants effect

Freeze II: 2275, Blizzard IV: 1655, Blizzard III: 1060

Non Ice:
72+47 MP above 51%, No Obi/Day Bonus
MAB: BLM Traits + HQ Staves + 34

Burst II: 1948, Thunder IV: 1521, Thunder III: 987

UGGY/Day Active:
INT: 72+31
MAB: Traits + HQ Staves + 42 + Obi/Pants effect

Burst II: 2245, Thunder IV: 1731, Thunder III: 1113


Hecate's Cape:

Ice:
INT:72+47
MAB: Traits + HQ Staff + 37

Freeze II: 1981, Blizzard IV: 1456, Blizzard III: 939

Uggy/Obi:
INT: 72+31
MAB: Traits + HQ Staff + 45 + Obi/Pants
Freeze II: 2281, Blizzard IV: 1651, Blizzard III: 1054

Non Ice:
INT: 72+42
MAB: Trait + HQ Staves + 37

Burst II: 1956, Thunder IV: 1521, Thunder III: 984

Uggy/Obi:
INT: 72+26
MAB: Traits + HQ Staves + 45 + Obi/Pants

Burst II: 2250, Thunder IV: 1728, Thunder III: 1108

So basically its good for AMII and that's it

With that it avaerage about the same so I'd get whatever is cheaper. That being said there is a bit of room in your set for a little more MAB gear (not counting the peices that are less dmg then the int ones) which will devalue the hecate's even more

Thank you very much for taking the time to break that down for me, confirmed my assumption that Hecate's would be a very minimal gain if any. The only way I can possibly gain more MAB gear is the full effect from Morrigan's set and Yigit feet over Goliard clogs I believe. Occurs to me I forgot to add the 10MAB from potency merits when I specified how much +MAB I had for each situation. Though if stacking more nets lesser returns, makes me even more comfortable sticking with Ixion Cape.

Again, thank you guys.

Oh yeah and though not normally factored in as heavily ixion does have 20 more mp and -2 emnity. Not to mention still using it for stoneskin or burn.

Emnity is a good argument...the MND and Burn aren't. Nothing says you can't carry both. So far I'm happy with my Gleeman's Cape, although like you once I do the math I likely will have both.

Well I wouldn't advocate spending 1 mil and -1 invent just for stoneskin and burn.... that is just silly

Also you need to account for the Ixion drops your HP by 20 (which a lot of BLM use to activate sorc ring).

But if you have the inventory room then carry both and use it for AMII, otherwise Ixion is a better item all round (more damage on the more commonly used spells, enmity, MP, HP down).

now i know situational gear is situational. depending on your setup and what one is nuking, this might be a viable cape for someone looking for some MAB. (non-day w/ no MAB pants)

personally i might have picked these up if i didn't augment Tatsumaki Sitagoromo with 4mab 4macc. i just cant see losing the -INT from Ixion cape as i already took a -INT hit replacing my Mahatma Slops with Tatsumaki and AF2 for nuking.

unless they come down in price even more i cant justify buying this for minimal gain. who knows after the level cap they will be more viable.

If you have the money, get both.
Have to choose? Get Ixion:D

Basically what Arg said, just bought one for 250k today myself and have been testing on fairly resistant lamia and ebony puddings.

Lamia : 1525 Freeze2 with ixion 1528 with hecate , tier 4s ixion was winning by 2 dmg and tier3 any nuke i tried 550/552 799/801 1088/1086 with ixion winning. Forgot to try aga on those.

Just soloing puddings now

Ixion 2420 freeze2, 1792 blizz4 1160 blizz3 2150 aga3
hecate 2427 freeze2, 1792 blizz4 1155 blizz3 2161 aga3

That was 150int burn, ima just try with no burn b4 ele day ends real quick :

Hecate :2345 freeze2, 1710 blizz4 1093 blizz3
ixion : 2341 freeze2, 1712 blizz4, 1098 blizz3

Hecate basically losing on my tier4s too without burn.

Lightningsday - 150int burn

Ixion : 2390 burst2 1871 thunder 4 1215 thunder3
hecate : 2397 burst2 1867 thunder 4 1208 thunder3.

Id of submitted 5mins sooner only I soloed 2 with hecate doing 932 half resist thunder4. I know nothing ive said here is really new no doubt just further stats to support the going opinion. So urgh now I have gotten my last nuke result 1867 thunder4 with hecate where ixion is 1871 yet hecate wins on am2 and blizz4 has equal results for ixion/hecate...

One of the most ... arkward situational pieces I have as blm its not very clear cut which cape is best as you can see from the results. I guess in general tho as said ixion tier 1-4 hecate am2/aga's.