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 Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-23 10:15:02  
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How does them not liking him lead us to actually accomplishing something?
How foolish would it be for us to depend on the people rigging the system to fix it?
I'm not though... And all you have is rhetoric... You're as bad as Obama voters sailing their dreams for a better world on the promises of hope and change... You've given me no reason to think trump is going to be good for this country... You're relying on him being a party outsider but other than that all you have are punch lines delivered to you by people supporting him...

one only needs to look at trumps accomplishments to conclude that he is by far he most competent of any running for the job.
Fraud, classist discrimination, and a mountain of hilariously failed business ventures?
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:15:14  
Suggest Random Menstruation Cycles and Trump.


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The haunting tale of a young girl's journey of becoming a woman !
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-23 10:15:43  
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:18:26  
Calling Trump a failure hmm I don't know too many billionaires that are failures...
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-23 10:21:07  
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Calling Trump a failure hmm I don't know too many billionaires that are failures...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-probably-better-investing-donald-233020366.html
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:24:37  
That doesn't prove anything. People that are billionaires are successful. You can argue ethics in the random ethics thread though!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-23 10:27:21  
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
Then we should all go back to Europe, Africa, Asia, & etc. and leave America to the native Americans?
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-23 10:29:59  
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Calling Trump a failure hmm I don't know too many billionaires that are failures...
He struck gold on one particular venture. Property. Which is, and will likely always be, in high demand.

Successful property owner? Sure.

Sucessful businessman? *** no.
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:30:54  
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
Then we should all go back to Europe, Africa, Asia, & etc. and leave America to the native Americans?

Back to Europe and watch soccer never !
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-23 10:31:44  
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That doesn't prove anything. People that are billionaires are successful. You can argue ethics in the random ethics thread though!

It has nothing to do with ethics. Read the article, twit! :p
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-23 10:32:04  
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
Then we should all go back to Europe, Africa, Asia, & etc. and leave America to the native Americans?

The wildlife?

Because those *** came here from elsewhere too.
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:32:44  
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fonewear said: »
That doesn't prove anything. People that are billionaires are successful. You can argue ethics in the random ethics thread though!

It has nothing to do with ethics. Read the article, twit! :p

Yahoo has a clear and apparent anti Trump bias !
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:33:10  
Plus Yahoo has a woman in charge you can't trust any company that let's a woman be in charge...
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-23 10:33:55  
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fonewear said: »
Calling Trump a failure hmm I don't know too many billionaires that are failures...
He struck gold on one particular venture. Property. Which is, and will likely always be, in high demand.

Successful property owner? Sure.

Sucessful businessman? *** no.

If you have investment money, land is pretty much always a good idea. If you have a lot of money, land in NYC is never going to go bad as long as you aren't a complete and utter retard.

His other business and investments where he had to apply himself?

Not as clearly well-executed, very likely not done as well as possible.

He's been playing with house money the whole time though, which is a "yuge" benefit.
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 10:36:52  
Trump would fire half the posters from this thread...then build a wall around FFXIAH to prevent new posters !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-23 10:48:56  
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Calling Trump a failure hmm I don't know too many billionaires that are failures...
He struck gold on one particular venture. Property. Which is, and will likely always be, in high demand.

Successful property owner? Sure.

Sucessful businessman? *** no.

That depends on how you view success. "Fame and fortune" are common measures, and Trump managed to be more famous than almost any billionaire. Not only did he not blow his fortune like many heirs of big money, but he managed to grow it (even if he could have done it more easily through simple investments).
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-23 10:53:04  
I define a successful business as one that makes profit or breaks even.

He has a pile of them that he dropped because they failed to meet the above standard.

As such, they failed.
 
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-23 11:10:53  
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I can be rich, all I need is a small loan of a million dollar.
Closer to $6.7 million at current rates.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-23 11:21:23  
Ramyrez said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
Then we should all go back to Europe, Africa, Asia, & etc. and leave America to the native Americans?

The wildlife?

Because those *** came here from elsewhere too.
Make Pangea great again!
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-23 11:24:11  
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Make Pangea great again!

We're gonna walk on land and make the people who haven't evolved away their gills yet pay for it!
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-23 11:24:32  
Whoops. I mentioned evolution. Many Trump supporters probably consider that anathema...
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-23 11:33:52  
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fonewear said: »
Calling Trump a failure hmm I don't know too many billionaires that are failures...
He struck gold on one particular venture. Property. Which is, and will likely always be, in high demand.

Successful property owner? Sure.

Sucessful businessman? *** no.

That depends on how you view success. "Fame and fortune" are common measures, and Trump managed to be more famous than almost any billionaire. Not only did he not blow his fortune like many heirs of big money, but he managed to grow it (even if he could have done it more easily through simple investments).
He has been a boom-bust-boom billionaire. Mostly booming with real-estate and the value of his brand. He's the most famous because that increases his brand value, and he goes out of his way to be discussed, good or bad.

However, he frankly has made incredibly appalling business decisions on multiple occasions that has lost him billions of dollars.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-23 11:35:16  
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Many Trump supporters probably consider that anathema...

none of us know what that word means!
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-23 11:36:44  
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There is also the whole ban Muslims and deport illegals thing.
I shouldn't have to clarify that America is for Americans.
There are Americans that are Muslims... I still don't know f you comprehend this...

What he means is Americans who are naturally born here and migrants who LEGALLY GO THROUGH OUR IMMIGRATION SERVICES BY LAW NOT ILLEGALLY.
 
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By fonewear 2016-06-23 11:43:07  
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I can be rich, all I need is a small loan of a million dollar.
Closer to $6.7 million at current rates.

I'm not greedy, 1 million is plenty!

Honesty 1 million isn't that much if you plan on living to 70.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-23 11:43:50  
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I define a successful business as one that makes profit or breaks even.

He has a pile of them that he dropped because they failed to meet the above standard.

As such, they failed.

Most businesses fail. I know it's hard to understand this from the bottom looking up, but the mega rich don't have to go all-in on the success of one business. If you own or partly own a bunch of different businesses and 90% of them completely fail but the success of the other 10% makes you an overall profit? Guess what, you win.

Sure, Trump's 300% increase in net worth from 1988-2015 (according to Forbes) is low for a billionaire, but gaining 3 billion dollars in net worth in 27 years isn't exactly something to scoff at.
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