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 Lakshmi.Pvtcaf
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By Lakshmi.Pvtcaf 2011-03-15 14:39:04  
Just bored, and figured I'd ask what others have found to be successful Atma combos for pld.

For solo and toying around I usually use RR, Minikin, and Apoc.

Anyone try stacking absorb/annul dmg atmas along with +2?
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-03-16 11:54:15  
Best atma I can think of is the one where you go to your mog house and change to a useful job.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-03-16 11:55:52  
Oh hey look another Pld thread.

But this one is actually useful or so it seems.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-16 11:59:27  
Atma of the Suck Less is generally best for PLD in Abyssea.
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By Leviathan.Tiptopjester 2011-03-16 12:01:19  
Personaly use VV RR and MM when soloing on pld in abby.
But I would think they depend on sub and what gears you plan on tp/ws in. Just started farming skins for Almace and use the above set to solo Guk that is when I can claim cause the boters are sleep >.>
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-03-16 12:03:08  
Leviathan.Tiptopjester said:
Personaly use VV RR and MM when soloing on pld in abby.
But I would think they depend on sub and what gears you plan on tp/ws in. Just started farming skins for Almace and use the above set to solo Guk that is when I can claim cause the boters are sleep >.>

You *** block everybody's progress on their skins by taking the time to solo a mob like Guk on a job that does little damage and can't reliably proc red?

***.

And to make it even worse you have NIN level'd!
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-03-16 12:03:40  
Yes yes we all know pld is dead but it doesn't mean people can't actually ask questions about the damn job.

He asked a legit question instead of just jumping on the "lolpld" why not be less of a douche and an actually answer his question?

It's all depends on what you wanna do Solo, Procer, even trying to tank stuff each situation would be different. Hell you could even go as backup curer with the correct atmas.
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By Leviathan.Tiptopjester 2011-03-16 12:07:55  
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Leviathan.Tiptopjester said:
Personaly use VV RR and MM when soloing on pld in abby. But I would think they depend on sub and what gears you plan on tp/ws in. Just started farming skins for Almace and use the above set to solo Guk that is when I can claim cause the boters are sleep >.>
You *** block everybody's progress on their skins by taking the time to solo a mob like Guk on a job that does little damage and can't reliably proc red? ***.

lol Cockblock cause I can claim and solo a mob on my own are u serious?
Umad? if so thats funny. Pld can proc almost all weapons for red btw but katana GK and scythe. Guess every one who solo'd ***is a "cockblocker" too.
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-03-16 12:11:57  
Yes cockblock, you're taking forever to kill a mob when you have the jobs to take it down much quicker. You slow yourself and everybody else down at the same time.
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By Titan.Darkestknight 2011-03-16 12:16:30  
Quite frankly, if they claim it no matter how long it takes it's their NM and their time to waste.

That leaves you with two options:

1. Either find other NM's to fight.
2. Wait for the mob to respawn.

Don't like it? tough! This is how FFXI has run since day one.
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-03-16 12:17:16  
lol
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-16 12:18:46  
Titan.Darkestknight said:
Quite frankly, if they claim it no matter how long it takes it's their NM and their time to waste.

That leaves you with two options:

1. Either find other NM's to fight.
2. Wait for the mob to respawn.

Don't like it? tough! This is how FFXI has run since day one.
And its a terrible system. They improved it by making the NMs repop ~15 minutes after death as opposed to the 1hr it used to take. They really need to make Gukumatz a forced pop NM.
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-03-16 12:19:45  
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Titan.Darkestknight said:
Quite frankly, if they claim it no matter how long it takes it's their NM and their time to waste.

That leaves you with two options:

1. Either find other NM's to fight.
2. Wait for the mob to respawn.

Don't like it? tough! This is how FFXI has run since day one.
And its a terrible system. They improved it by making the NMs repop ~15 minutes after death as opposed to the 1hr it used to take. They really need to make Gukumatz a forced pop NM.

Same problem of some idiot popping it and taking 15 minutes to solo.
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By Leviathan.Tiptopjester 2011-03-16 12:20:16  
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Yes cockblock, you're taking forever to kill a mob when you have the jobs to take it down much quicker. You slow yourself and everybody else down at the same time.

So because a have a safe and reliable way to kill a mob be it slower then my other jobs "but has almost as many proc weps as war" I should just not camp it. The whole idea of playing pld is to tank ***and using abby just makes it alot more easier. LoLif I had a Burt and or Aegis i'd prob br soloing alot more. I play pld cause it is my main and I tank ***. Nin is fun but not jumping on the nin bandwagon.Paladin For life everything else is secondary.
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By Titan.Darkestknight 2011-03-16 12:22:56  
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Titan.Darkestknight said:
Quite frankly, if they claim it no matter how long it takes it's their NM and their time to waste.

That leaves you with two options:

1. Either find other NM's to fight.
2. Wait for the mob to respawn.

Don't like it? tough! This is how FFXI has run since day one.
And its a terrible system. They improved it by making the NMs repop ~15 minutes after death as opposed to the 1hr it used to take. They really need to make Gukumatz a forced pop NM.

Fine by me, if they make it a multiple pop. Because to me that's worse. You can't see the NM for ***when it's the same ??? area.

You have people standing/surrounding the spot that grab it the minute it shows up, at least with a free pop it can be anywhere in a specified area to grab.
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By Asura.Jaybezz 2011-03-16 12:23:36  
pld's r banned from abyssea level mnk
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-03-16 12:24:53  
Asura.Jaybezz said:
pld's r banned from abyssea level mnk
Why mnk when other jobs are much more efficient and can unload more damage?
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By Titan.Darkestknight 2011-03-16 12:25:46  
Asura.Jaybezz said:
pld's r banned from abyssea level mnk

Surely warrior would be superior, least they can trigger weaknesses.

Why kill something "quick" 5 times, when you can kill it once and get the item you want.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-16 12:25:56  
Titan.Darkestknight said:
Fine by me, if they make it a multiple pop. Because to me that's worse.
What convoluted thought process did you use to arrive at the conclusion that increasing the number of potential Sobek pops makes the situation worse?
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By Asura.Jaybezz 2011-03-16 12:26:22  
mnk/war deal.... thats my final offer lol
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By Titan.Darkestknight 2011-03-16 12:27:13  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Titan.Darkestknight said:
Fine by me, if they make it a multiple pop. Because to me that's worse.
What convoluted thought process did you use to arrive at the conclusion that increasing the number of potential Sobek pops makes the situation worse?

I never said it made it worse? I said only do it pop if it can be popped more than once.

PS. I realise I messed up with putting a full-stop where it was not needed.
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By Fenrir.Captaincrunch 2011-03-16 12:27:49  
Leviathan.Tiptopjester said:
Fenrir.Captaincrunch said:
Yes cockblock, you're taking forever to kill a mob when you have the jobs to take it down much quicker. You slow yourself and everybody else down at the same time.

So because a have a safe and reliable way to kill a mob be it slower then my other jobs "but has almost as many proc weps as war" I should just not camp it. The whole idea of playing pld is to tank ***and using abby just makes it alot more easier. LoLif I had a Burt and or Aegis i'd prob br soloing alot more. I play pld cause it is my main and I tank ***. Nin is fun but not jumping on the nin bandwagon.Paladin For life everything else is secondary.

Well as long as its more easier for you I'm happy.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-16 12:28:30  
Asura.Jaybezz said:
mnk/war deal.... thats my final offer lol
nin/war can do more than mnk/war. NIN/WAR + WHM or if you have a WAR friend bring them along for Shadow of Death/Freezebite to get every proc.
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By Asura.Jaybezz 2011-03-16 12:29:05  
or befriend a war/sam and a nin/war and a whm = profit? abyssea is made around a party of 6-9 tbh apart from a few mobs ofc

and i hate thos people that takes 15 mins 2 kill guk....

we take 1-2 mins 2 kill him depending on !! (light is normally a *** since there koki and the nin has 2 !!) but apart from that he drops quicker then a 13yr old right nut
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-16 12:30:24  
15 mins to kill Guku? *** /wrist. Proccing is the longest part of the fight.
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By Asura.Jaybezz 2011-03-16 12:31:09  
depends tbh mnk and nin r massive powerhouses in abyssea

i never really looked at the numbersbut at a quick glance the counter dmg on top of mnks DoT might push them ahead u no thing?


based on both jobs being maxed out with 85 or 90 emps
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-16 12:31:39  
The idea of someone taking that long to kill Guku makes me cringe...
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-16 12:32:02  
I never said NIN can out damage or out tank a MNK. I'm talking about red!! proccing.
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