When Are BLMs Going To Realize PTs On Puddings Are Fail?

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When Are BLMs Going to Realize PTs on Puddings are Fail?
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 Ramuh.Zangada
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By Ramuh.Zangada 2010-06-13 16:56:53  
That would make a vaild argument if u stated whats a better camp.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-06-13 16:58:58  
Ramuh.Zangada said:
That would make a vaild argument if u stated whats a better camp.


Sync on giga's tigers for sure. (Xarcabard_S)
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By Phoenix.Zeotah 2010-06-13 17:01:08  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
When are BLMs going to realize that pting on puddings is fail and they should gtfo?
You fail for not proposing a superior alternative.
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By Asura.Citag 2010-06-13 17:01:09  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
When are BLMs going to realize that pting on puddings is fail and they should gtfo?

I just /sea all you and you appear to be in a pt yourself?
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By Bahamut.Reeve 2010-06-13 17:02:04  
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Ramuh.Zangada said:
That would make a vaild argument if u stated whats a better camp.


Sync on giga's tigers for sure. (Xarcabard_S)
Yeah that camp is awesome, I was the corsair in a blm mana burn their once - and the exp was crazy, yet so so very easy
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 17:02:25  
Yeah soloing puddings is so much better. Also aga burning wamouras
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By Asura.Nzodd 2010-06-13 17:03:23  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
When are BLMs going to realize that pting on puddings is fail and they should gtfo?

Ya i kinda hate pts in mount zhaloam. I prefer to solo there, much faster XP in my opinion
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-06-13 17:06:08  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Yeah soloing puddings is so much better. Also aga burning wamouras
I always wanted to gather a group of princes and just sleepga -> age III them tod eath. How's that work?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 17:07:15  
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Yeah soloing puddings is so much better. Also aga burning wamouras
I always wanted to gather a group of princes and just sleepga -> age III them tod eath. How's that work?
Well last I did it I just went out and pulled 8-12 on rdm then 4-5 blms aga3 them I sleepga them and then another round to finish them instant chain whatever not bad. Like 30k an hour
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By Ifrit.Preluder 2010-06-13 17:07:48  
Soloing puddings will net you bigger exp per kill. Manaburn parties on puddings will net you about the same exp/hr or more. 10-12k/hr is decent considering there is not really any 75 camp other then puddings for us blms to go to. so its not fail we just dont really have many options. Hopefully with the new updates new camps will come for blms.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 17:22:02  
Kinda depends on the people but frankly most the time I go up there if there are any blms up there they are doing less with AM2 than I am with T4... and have less mp don't aspir as well etc. Which means if I do pt with them I am doing a much bigger part of the work at which point I might as well solo get myself my chain 5s still but at alot more xp per kill. Ironically it's usualy much safer too
 
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By Ragnarok.Holyman 2010-06-13 17:28:26  
Solo/Duoing is better for Puddings .

But who said you don't have any other choices to EXP as Lv.75 BLM ?

Cyhiraeth in Beaucedine Glacier (S) near Neu tower is an alternative imo

Good: No TP moves - Susciptible to Gravity - Sleepable even though they're undead - Sigil bonus of refresh/increased food duration - fairly low HP like 3k~

Bad: Immune/resistant to Bind - though snowy weather is always there u can't use Blizz spells since they highly resistant to them - for Sorc. Ring users unless u nuke with Ixion Cape/Z.mitts to override your yellow HP there is possibility u HP aggro another spirit - not aspirable/drainable - reaching the camp - no EXP bonus from Sigil/AN

Pets in Xarcabard (S) near OP , think only possible danger there is the amphiptere & Imps , but easy EXP , one shottable , just need to wait for BST re-calling his tiger lol

Chigoe burn PT! just need to find lv50~ sync , have RDM mule to spawn chigoes & vola , might be tough first few levels , but it's certainly one of the best methods to gain EXP on BLM

Inc after the update Promy wandrers lol , if they will make them that high , low HP/Aspirable/Sleepable/Gravitable/Bindable depend on its element.

Level sync in Vunkrel!

Pashhow Marshlands (S)
Pieste while camping Sugaar , good way to EXP , there is very susciptible to sleep/bind/gravity - low HP - not very dangerous TP moves - stormy weather is so common there - so thunder is ideal.

Edit: though I hate to say it but Aura Statues in sky while farming Diorites been always good place to EXP BLM lol.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 17:31:20  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
I don't use AM2, it is not mp efficient.

We have been Thunder 4 at the same time > bind > aspir > blizzard 4 to chain 2, rest then chain 5.
Well I do it since as a taru I'll have more mp than the other guy anyways or for soloing partly for recast and also since I'm not sure I can kill with just 3 T4
 
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By Hades.Triet 2010-06-13 17:39:37  
I have duo'd there quite a bit, but it was only because

1) I didn't have the gear I have now
2) friend was showing me the camp and how it's done
3) I did not have the merits/skill(elemental&enfeebling) to solo.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-06-13 17:40:39  
Better to take a group to Ix'drg instead, gain money or the pop item for LS.
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By Diabolos.Sovereign 2010-06-13 17:58:17  
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Better to take a group to Ix'drg instead, gain money or the pop item for LS.

definitely a better alternative for a manaburn party
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-06-13 20:54:33  
There is no pop item for Ix'drg <_<
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-13 20:58:52  
There is for Prudence though.

Also something something MMM manaburns.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 21:06:54  
I've been trying to solo MMM on blm. Close calls each. Might have to not disable jas lol or get an elixer
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-13 21:11:32  
I don't know about soloing, but I saw a blog post on MMM manaburns that netted some fairly impressive XP/hr... trying to find it again.

It's nothing all that different from existing manaburns (think they used Aquan mobs though), it's more the fact that you don't run out of mobs until the run itself is over that's the key.

I think it used Voucher 02 but not 100% sure, won't comment further until I find it again.
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By Kujata.Akeda 2010-06-13 21:11:35  
Good thing I'm SCH.

I can go burn puddings, and if the camp is full I can just go play healer for a little while ;)
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 21:17:40  
Yeah I'm mostly doing it to try and get some easier more plentiful slimes so doing amorphs. Plus alot of amorphs are aspirable though you can't sleep hecteyes so well
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-06-13 21:17:42  
BLM burn party on pudding = fail because one's black mage has matured to the point where they can gain a decent amount solo at the same camp or elsewhere.

Keep in mind not all BLMs are able to solo puddings or anything worthwhile in XP for that fact so the default alternative is gathering a 2-6 man party and burn puddings.

When we were all fresh, new, learning BLMs, we would have jumped on a party opportunity as well. No big deal.
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By Ragnarok.Holyman 2010-06-13 21:28:18  
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Most of those choices suck for soloing and/or duoing. I would sooner play with roaches.

No?

Sticking to 1 camp is as stupid , u get nothing if everyone is trying to just burn same ***' mobs , example: TP burn Colibri .

I bet after the update everyone & their mothers would compete for same old camps like idiots .

I mentioned some of many options you have out there lol , if you complain still , I don't what to say ? just don't EXP BLM.
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
BLM burn party on pudding = fail because one's black mage has matured to the point where they can gain a decent amount solo at the same camp or elsewhere. Keep in mind not all BLMs are able to solo puddings or anything worthwhile in XP for that fact so the default alternative is gathering a 2-6 man party and burn puddings. When we were all fresh, new, learning BLMs, we would have jumped on a party opportunity as well. No big deal.

What I hate the most is to have compete against 3~4 BLMs , it's just anti-productive , I'd PT up & get less EXP/kill instead of competing with others , wasting their time & mine.

Even though I solo more effeciently , but competing for camp is just lame imo.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-13 21:33:03  
Competing isn't always lame. Depends on the blms. Like I've litterally killed puddings faster solo than a pt of 2 blms and some refresh job before lol.

At which yeah I'll compete
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