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By Nausi 2017-07-21 07:09:51  
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To those on the left, when you get pissed at President Trump, go find a mirror and see who's to blame. Every time you bullied or intimidated someone with political correctness, it pushed them towards this situation.
So you admit that people voted Trump out of spite, and not an actual ideology. I suppose it makes sense, since Trump also has some of the thinnest skin I've ever witnessed.

Not spite, pure exhaustion from politically correct agree with me or be bullied as a heretic deplorable.

Trump is an ***, and most importantly he's a vocal *** who isn't afraid to say what he wants and doesn't let people control his speech or thought. Right now in the USA the left is trying to win by controlling people's speech and thought, and that's really pissing people off.

The failure of both parties in the last few decades has resulted in the election of Trump. Until that gets through your skull anything you do is only going to fuel his popularity.
Person A: Hey maybe we should do something about illegal immigration.
Person B: Shut up racist.

It goes both ways. Look at merry christmas vs. happy holidays. When the left speaks their mind in regards to what people say, the right themselves are awfully quick to be offended.

(Ftfy) Happy holidays is just another way to ***on christians, which is why its never said for halloween or thanksgiving or any other case.

Hes 100% right, Trumps base is fueled by a high - octane disgust for the left. As long as the left keeps using leftist tactics to take down Trump, his support will only grow.
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 07:11:11  
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As for the investigation, one of the primary steps in any investigation is follow the money. It has been known for a long time that almost all of Trump's funding comes from Russia.

What does this mean? Who knows? But Mueller kinda has to find out if it does mean anything.
WHAT?! Almost all of trumps funding come from Russia?

Where on earth did you even hear that?
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 07:15:42  
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That victim card never gets old.
Real victimization beats out fake victimization every day of the week bud.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-21 08:05:16  
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cellonies
Is that like osmosis or....
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-07-21 08:09:49  
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/corallo-kasowitz-depart-trump-legal-team/


Probably because it's all a big nothing burger so they resigned...
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 08:54:51  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Nausi said: »
cellonies
Is that like osmosis or....
Felonies

I don't know what to say. This site is not very mobile friendly. Rooks has clearly discriminated against those of us who access the site with their phones.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-21 08:57:43  
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Rooks has clearly discriminated against those of us who access the site with their phones.
Obviously not.

I give you the following evidence:

Kojo.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-21 08:59:12  
Clinton Scandal Only Deepens — So Why Is Trump, Not Hillary, Targeted For Investigation?

Bad sources are bad, mmk?

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Corruption: Amid the trivial fault-finding by the media of President Trump's every move, it's important to note that the very same pundits who now rip Trump have completely ignored the growing scandal of Hillary Clinton's pay-for-play tenure as secretary of state. It's reasonable to wonder why no charges have yet been filed, yet the media, blinded by their Trump hatred, seem strangely incurious.

The legal investigative think tank Judicial Watch recently released 448 pages of documents that it dug up from the U.S. State Department, the fruit of months of Freedom of Information Act requests and document-digging. The documents are damning, showing even more instances of Hillary Clinton performing official favors for those who donated to the Clinton Foundation and certain political campaigns.

To put it even more bluntly, the emails make a prima facie case for a criminal prosecution of Clinton. As Judicial Watch notes:

"In July 2009, in reference to the U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue, Clinton Global Initiative head Doug Band told (Huma) Abedin that she "Need(s) to show love" to Andrew Liveris, the CEO of Dow Chemical (DOW). Band also asked for Liveris to be introduced to Hillary, "and have her mention both me and wjc." Dow gave between $1 million and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. Band also pushes for Clinton to do a favor for Karlheinz Koegel, a major Clinton Foundation contributor, who wanted Hillary Clinton to give the 'honor speech' for his media prize to 'Merkel.' "

Further, "The emails reveal that on June 19, 2009, Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, passed a long a letter for Hillary Clinton for Clinton donor Richard Park. Park donated $100,000 to Bill Clinton as far back as 1993 and is listed by the Clinton Foundation as a $100,000 to $250,000 donor."

This wasn't all, not by a long shot. Ben Ringel, a Clinton donor, emailed top Clinton aide Huma Abedin seeking a U.S. visa for an unnamed Iranian woman. Ringel donated between $10,000 and $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

Foundation head Band shows up in numerous emails, seeking favors, including trying to get people jobs in the State Department. At times, the Clinton Foundation's top executive seems almost to be an adjunct State Department official.

In August 2009, for instance, Band tried to get his candidate installed as ambassador to Barbados. Abedin answered: "I know, he's emailed a few times. But she wants to give to someone else." In another instance earlier that year, Band sought a "career post" in East Timor for someone. Abedin told him that Hillary Clinton's chief of staff Cheryl Mills was working on that request "under the radar."

Still other emails show a stunning contempt for any notion of protecting classified information, with emails revealing sensitive matters being routinely exposed on Hillary Clinton's and Huma Abedin's unsecured email server, ranging from classified emails from U.S. ambassadors to the planned schedule for President Obama while in Cairo, Egypt, to a sensitive document of a Clinton phone call with "Chinese Foreign Minister Yang."

All on a server that many experts believe was probably hacked by the Chinese, the Russians, or both.

Old news, you say? Hardly. As most know, the hoo-ha over Donald Trump Jr.'s talks with Russian officials revolves around a somewhat mysterious yet nearly ubiquitous Russian lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya, who purported to have some dirt on Hillary Clinton that she would exchange for help with the Global Magnitsky Act, a 2012 law that imposed sanctions on Russians who were deemed to be human-rights violators.

Now, if you reach way back in your memory banks, recall that Bill Clinton, on June 29, 2010, gave a speech in Moscow for $500,000, paid for by the Russian government-tied financial firm Renaissance Capital. And also remember that before Bill's speech was made, Hillary had refused a congressional request to reject visas for several Russian officials who were thought to be implicated in human-rights abuses.

Which raises a big question: Was Bill's speech a quid pro quo for Hillary's help?

Subsequent events suggest the answer was yes. For despite Hillary Clinton's and President Obama's hopes of a "reset" with Russia, Congress in 2012 passed the Global Magnitsky Act. And for the record, Renaissance Capital was allegedly party to the scandal that led to the Magnitsky Act.

Documents from WikiLeaks show that Hillary was aware of the potential trouble this could create for her campaign. As Jesse Lehrich, part of the Clinton campaign's "Rapid Response Communications" team, wrote in May of 2015: "With the help of the research team, we killed a Bloomberg story trying to link HRC's oppostion to the Magnitsky bill a $500,000 speech that WJC gave in Moscow."

In an ironic addendum, it was to get help with avoiding restrictions under the Magnitsky Act that Veselnitskaya sought to meet with Donald Trump Jr.

Collusion? There's plenty of it. As we've noted repeatedly in the last year, the conflicts of interest and criminal collusion between Hillary Clinton's State Department, the Clinton Foundation and the Russians, among others, are numerous and profound. They warrant a thorough investigation. Why Special Counsel Robert Mueller has been tasked to look into the pathetically trivial meetings between the Trump camp and a handful of Russians — not a violation of any law we're aware of — is inexplicable.
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 09:03:09  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/corallo-kasowitz-depart-trump-legal-team/


Probably because it's all a big nothing burger so they resigned...
Well its cbs news
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/corallo-kasowitz-depart-trump-legal-team/


Probably because it's all a big nothing burger so they resigned...

Drumpf is surely done now
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-07-21 09:13:06  
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We obviously had different experiences in the real world.

Because you selectively forget all the times you called bullied and othered people for having different political views then you.

I thought Obama was mediocre, as a President he didn't have the experience or the power base to do anything without his parties express approval. His entire first term was his struggling to actually be the President when his only leadership experience was as a community organizer. Eventually he caved and just do whatever his party told him to do in exchange for their political support. If Obama had waited until he had another eight to sixteen years under his belt, then I think he would of made a great President.

I know your memory is that of a goldfish, I was one of the ones supporting Obama after his election and telling the idiots here that he wasn't born in Kenya and has the exact same birth certificate as I do. Also that because of his mothers US citizenship he was also a natural born US citizen regardless of where he drew his first breath.

But hey I'm a deplorable islamophobic neck beard racist natzi that you should go punch, cause your so tolerant of diversity.
So did you vote for Trump? Because if you had an issue with Obama's lack of experience, Trump had even less.

Wasn't in country during the elections and remote voting is still kinda *** in the USA.

Trump has far more leadership experience then Obama. Being CEO is by definition a leadership position. Furthermore Trump has been playing politics for decades, buying and selling politicians as needed. He even bough Clinton once.

But what would you know about any of that? Your just interesting in harassing, name calling and finding a legitimate reason to "punch a natzi" while wearing your antifa outfit.
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 09:25:11  
I do pretend to speak for every dingle Trump supporter BUT, It does not require much insight to posit their perspective.

Hillary undeniably broke the law, and "muh Rusdia" is undeniably a baseless witchhunt to just get at or stall Trump. I imagine a great many Trump supporters have concluded any notion that liberals actually care about the law can be thrown away after they all just collectively gave hillary a pass.

Scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel to attempt to "hang us all with our hypocrisy" (that cant even be substantiated beyond obvious speculation) is not going to be an effective method of seperating us from our support. It will only verify out believe in the damgerousness of the rigged syatem we all choose to act against.

I wonder if anyone in the dem-media complex has even thought that far beyond their own partisan rage.
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 09:26:07  
Don't pretend*

*** edits!
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By Viciouss 2017-07-21 09:43:01  
Another disastrous week for Trump comes to an end, repeal and replace died, then repeal only died, now he has no plan and neither does the Senate, might as well go on recess. Just think, next week his son is scheduled to testify to Congress and there is nothing he can do about it. Keep throwing your own staff under the bus tho, as you support continues to fall away.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-07-21 09:45:35  
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Don't pretend*

*** edits!

Dingle Trump!
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-07-21 09:51:17  
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I do pretend to speak for every dingle Trump supporter BUT, It does not require much insight to posit their perspective.

Yeah it's a pretty clear rebellion against the status quot, especially the status quot of the last six to seven years. The leftists are still trying to deny their culpability in creating this situation and just double down on the tactics of political correction and bullying. That only fuels Trumps support base who see the left doing exactly what pushed them away.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-21 09:55:51  
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Just think, next week his son is scheduled to testify to Congress and there is nothing he can do about it.

IT'S RAVAEL PREDICTION TIME!!!

Donald Jr. testifies in front of Congress. The media makes a big deal out of nothing for a few days. Within a week it all blows over and everyone is making a big deal out of the next nothing.

What is this prediction based on? Every single high-profile testimony that has occurred this year.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-21 09:56:50  
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Keep throwing your own staff under the bus tho, as you support continues to fall away.

What "support"? It sounds like you're making stuff up.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-21 10:01:29  
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Keep throwing your own staff under the bus tho, as you support continues to fall away.

What "support"? It sounds like you're making stuff up.

I guess thats true, he doesn't have any support right now. I don't think a single member of Congress is interested in his "agenda."
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-07-21 10:06:04  
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Just think, next week his son is scheduled to testify to Congress and there is nothing he can do about it.

IT'S RAVAEL PREDICTION TIME!!!

Donald Jr. testifies in front of Congress. The media makes a big deal out of nothing for a few days. Within a week it all blows over and everyone is making a big deal out of the next nothing.

What is this prediction based on? Every single high-profile testimony that has occurred this year.

You forgot the public denigration of his Constitutional rights. When he pleads the 5th and is reminded by a hostile Democrat Senator of his/his fathers comment that invoking the 5th implies guilt.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-21 10:07:49  
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Just think, next week his son is scheduled to testify to Congress and there is nothing he can do about it.

IT'S RAVAEL PREDICTION TIME!!!

Donald Jr. testifies in front of Congress. The media makes a big deal out of nothing for a few days. Within a week it all blows over and everyone is making a big deal out of the next nothing.

What is this prediction based on? Every single high-profile testimony that has occurred this year.

You forgot the public denigration of his Constitutional rights. When he pleads the 5th and is reminded by a hostile Democrat Senator of his/his fathers comment that invoking the 5th implies guilt.

This is Ravael Prediction Time, not Zero Prediction Time. Get off my stage.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-07-21 10:11:26  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Just think, next week his son is scheduled to testify to Congress and there is nothing he can do about it.

IT'S RAVAEL PREDICTION TIME!!!

Donald Jr. testifies in front of Congress. The media makes a big deal out of nothing for a few days. Within a week it all blows over and everyone is making a big deal out of the next nothing.

What is this prediction based on? Every single high-profile testimony that has occurred this year.

You forgot the public denigration of his Constitutional rights. When he pleads the 5th and is reminded by a hostile Democrat Senator of his/his fathers comment that invoking the 5th implies guilt.

This is Ravael Prediction Time, not Zero Prediction Time. Get off my stage.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-21 10:13:29  
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Keep throwing your own staff under the bus tho, as you support continues to fall away.

What "support"? It sounds like you're making stuff up.

I guess thats true, he doesn't have any support right now. I don't think a single member of Congress is interested in his "agenda."

Interesting redirect. I meant "what support is he losing". Trump has always been at odds with the establishment. It's mainly what got him elected. The last time a president had a gang of complicit worshipers at his disposal in Congress, it gave us Obamacare. Funny how the Democrat voter support took a nosedive soon after....
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-07-21 10:31:29  
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As for the investigation, one of the primary steps in any investigation is follow the money. It has been known for a long time that almost all of Trump's funding comes from Russia.

What does this mean? Who knows? But Mueller kinda has to find out if it does mean anything.
WHAT?! Almost all of trumps funding come from Russia?

Where on earth did you even hear that?
Eric Trump Reportedly Bragged About Access to $100 Million in Russian Money
“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Vanity Fair

Eric Trump said family golf courses attracted Russian funding, author claims

President’s son denies he said Trump Organization had ‘all the funding we need’ from Russia while Donald Trump ‘tossed off that he had access to $100m’

The Guardian

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Eric Trump said three years ago the Trump Organization had “all the funding we need out of Russia” for its golf course projects, according to an author recounting the story of a 2014 meeting with Donald Trump and his son.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-07-21 10:32:15  
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dingle Trump
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By Nausi 2017-07-21 10:36:16  
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Another disastrous week for Trump comes to an end, repeal and replace died, then repeal only died, now he has no plan and neither does the Senate, might as well go on recess. Just think, next week his son is scheduled to testify to Congress and there is nothing he can do about it. Keep throwing your own staff under the bus tho, as you support continues to fall away.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-21 10:44:30  
I thought we weren't going to source tabloids Chanti.

Unless Batboy has been found, of course.

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-21 10:47:26  
Compared to CNN, Weekly World News looks downright credible. I'm gonna pick one of their magazines up and see if Bigfoot is also colluding with Russia.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-21 10:59:05  
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I'm gonna pick one of their magazines up and see if Bigfoot is also colluding with Russia.
CNN: Trump's claims to have big hands, so our analysis states that he also claims to have big feet. Therefor, using photogenic software, not to be confused with photo-altering software, which would be more accurate to this case, we can reasonably conclude that Trump is not only Bigfoot, but also Bigfoot is colluding with Russia to hack into our election systems.

So says 4 anonymous sources!
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