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A Prime Example of Rad Parenting
If maybe, just maybe people moved beyond the idea that toy stores don't sell toys excusively for kids anymore...
(Except for those "other" adult toys, there are specialized "Toy stores" for those.) You may disagree with her opinion but I don't see what this has anything to do with bad parenting...
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Are you calling her a "bad parent" because she is pro-active about trying to improve the world her child will grow up in? Or are you calling her a "bad parent" because she's ruining someone's fun? Lakshmi.Flavin said: » You may disagree with her opinion but I don't see what this has anything to do with bad parenting... A prime example of bad thread naming... @OP YOU SUCK!!! and I want the four minutes I wasted here back. It's not so much "bad parenting" as much as "entitlement issues".
Helicopter mom tries to protect child from every little thing. In doing so, she expects the world around her to conform to her child and her feelings on how the world should be for her child. It's a pretty common mindset with the "trophy for everyone" kids becoming parents now. Helicopter mom? lol
This? I suppose I learn something new every time I come here ! :D Wikipedia said: » Quote: A helicopter parent (also called a cosseting parent or simply a cosseter) is a parent who pays extremely close attention to a child's or children's experiences and problems, particularly at educational institutions. Helicopter parents are so named because, like helicopters, they hover overhead. Ramyrez said: » It's not so much "bad parenting" as much as "entitlement issues". Helicopter mom tries to protect child from every little thing. In doing so, she expects the world around her to conform to her child and her feelings on how the world should be for her child. It's a pretty common mindset with the "trophy for everyone" kids becoming parents now. I think it's a valid concern that a toy store mainly marketed towards children is selling a toy that has to do with selling meth even if it's in the 15 and up secton... As a business, like it or not, what your consumers think about your brand is important... Quote: how can you call someone a helicopter mom based off one issue Because if she's raging and filing petitions and basically going off the deep end over a petty issue like this, I can't even imagine what she's like over other stuff. Quote: I think it's a valid concern that a toy store mainly marketed towards children is selling a toy that has to do with selling meth even if it's in the 15 and up secton... That's like blaming the store for their children playing an M-rated video game just because the store sells it. That's ridiculous. It's your opinion that it's petty... That doesn't make it petty...
You're view of "raging" and "going off the deep end" vary greatly from mine then lol... I've seen you come closer on some of your anti-religion rants than this. Like I said... I don't think it's an unreasonable stance to take. Having worked at Toys before it's not really that hard for kids to walk in and buy that stuff without their parents. It's marketed as a kid friendly store. It's definitely not the stores responsibility to raise your kid but what does concern them is their consumers opinion. I don't know why they'd want the brand associated with drugs at all... That being said consumers voicing their opinions about it isn't a bad thing. Whether they do anything about it or not is another issue altogether. I agree with her, Breaking Bad figures shouldn't be intended for play by children. The show depicts him as a drug dealing protagonist.
Not appropriate for children in the least. I also think the threshold for becoming a "helicopter parent" is a bit past the "I don't want to let my kids play with meth cook action figures" line. What are Breaking Bad toys doing in a Toys R Us anyway? It's a gripping drama for adults in a store largely for kids/teens.
While I'd just chalk it up to telling a parent to ignore it, like the Predator/Robocop/Chucky toys of days gone by, it's still pretty *** up to be selling those types of toys in a kids store. Walter White, now with more meth slinging action! Now with even more awesome lines: 'You’re an insane, degenerate piece of filth, and you deserve to die.' 'I am the one who knocks.' 'I'm not in the meth business. I'm in the empire business.' Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Not appropriate for children in the least. I also think the threshold for becoming a "helicopter parent" is a bit past the "I don't want to let my kids play with meth cook action figures" line. It's not her not wanting her child to play with those figures that's the issue. She's right for that. It's expecting a store not to sell them because of it, especially when they're labeled for outside of her child's age group. It's the expectation that society should restrict things so you don't have to worry about your child being exposed. It's the same people who want tape-delayed sporting events because your child might see a nipple in a wardrobe malfunction and you might have to talk to the child about it. It's people trying to get the world to bubble wrap itself so as to not offend or harm their precious child. Ramyrez said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Not appropriate for children in the least. I also think the threshold for becoming a "helicopter parent" is a bit past the "I don't want to let my kids play with meth cook action figures" line. It's not her not wanting her child to play with those figures that's the issue. She's right for that. It's expecting a store not to sell them because of it, especially when they're labeled for outside of her child's age group. It's the expectation that society should restrict things so you don't have to worry about your child being exposed. It's the same people who want tape-delayed sporting events because your child might see a nipple in a wardrobe malfunction and you might have to talk to the child about it. It's people trying to get the world to bubble wrap itself so as to not offend or harm their precious child. I kinda agree tho, these figures (also like walking dead, etc, etc), along with some other.. mature show figures, should be sold at a collectible comic/toy shop rather than TRU...
but then again, with the market heavy on videogames and thinning selection of toys due to lower sales, TRU needs to expand on their merchandise.... then again, nothing bad on this thread, besides the naming for it. Saying that those figures don't belong in Toys R Us is akin to saying Adult Swim doesn't belong on the same channel as the rest of Cartoon Network. You're saying that it has to be all or nothing. If part of it is meant for kids then all of it should be.
While I have no interest in action figures, since I have my virtual action doll in FFXI, I don't see the harm in having toys in a toy store. Remember that it's Toys R Us not Toys Only For 5 years and Under R Us. Just as Cartoon Network isn't Cartoons Fit Only For 5 Years and Younger Network. So is it ok for Toys'r'us to have a adult section for 18 and up (or 21 and up, whatever the legal adult age is in your country), to sell sex toys?
I haven't been in a Toys'r'us for years, but my impression is that it's a place for lots of kids to roam around and play with things. For a parent to be concerned about the kind of content their children may find in there isn't too surprising. While you can say she's being over protective, there's probably a certain degree of responsibility on the business, targeting at young kids, to think about what they sell and how they sell them. If their "15 and up" section is guarded by staff and stopping little kids from going in there then maybe it makes sense. To say this is bad parenting is harsh. I'd say it's bad parenting if she finds that her kid is selling drugs and blame it on this toy. But all i see is a concerned mother, and she may or may not be over the top on her response to this depending on your views. Fenrir.Camiie said: » saying Adult Swim doesn't belong on the same channel as the rest of Cartoon Network. Toys R Us is a store marketed to children and teens, it isn't a catch all department store like Target or WalMart if you want to go that route so no, it's not like Adult Swim vs. Cartoon Network. They have a stated purpose as a brand that pitches itself a family friendly store and that comes with certain expectations.
Breaking Bad is a show for adults, it doesn't even have cross appeal with kids unless you think a show about drug dealers has charm with your impressionable 13 year old. ***, even Predator toys had a better argument to be on shelves because of its heroes vs. alien schtick. Bismarck.Misao said: » Fenrir.Camiie said: » saying Adult Swim doesn't belong on the same channel as the rest of Cartoon Network. I used to love Adult Swim, I actually don't understand the live-action stuff on it though. At all. I mean, I think it's all terrible, but that's besides the point. If it's a terrible cartoon I even get it. It's the not-cartoon on Cartoon Network that throws me for a loop. Also, the sex toy thing is just stupid, but some of you are clearly very, very concerned that these children be protected and that it's the businesses responsibility, not the parents, so...sign the ***'s petition, I guess? I'm just sick of parents expecting society to form itself to their idea of ideal for their offspring. Whatever. Offline
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Ok so Toys R Us just needs to keep toys like that off the shelf until after prime time, then they can bring them out after the kids go to bed. Works for TV right?
Toys R Us has always billed themselves as a child-friendly establishment, and that's the issue. Parenting aside, I don't think anyone could reasonable say Breaking Bad is child-friendly. If we were talking about a store like Spencers or even a general hobby shop, BB figures would be just fine as they don't specifically target ages that it would be inappropriate for. eh, I don't think she's over-reaching to expect a kids toy store to refrain from selling "drug related" toys to minors. It's not like the store wouldn't sell them to little kids looking to buy them. Could she put her time to better use than raising awareness for such an issue? Probably but who cares, I'm not shopping there anytime soon anyways.
I mean older kids (high schoolers) are perfectly capable of comprehending the issues of the show. I think moms and dads who shelter teens against the show are making a "helicoptering" mistake, but not little kids. Also 20.99 for an action figure? Dafaq? Fenrir.Camiie said: » Saying that those figures don't belong in Toys R Us is akin to saying Adult Swim doesn't belong on the same channel as the rest of Cartoon Network. You're saying that it has to be all or nothing. If part of it is meant for kids then all of it should be. While I have no interest in action figures, since I have my virtual action doll in FFXI, I don't see the harm in having toys in a toy store. Remember that it's Toys R Us not Toys Only For 5 years and Under R Us. Just as Cartoon Network isn't Cartoons Fit Only For 5 Years and Younger Network. It's like you guys forget the days of marketing cigarettes to children. Whether it's right or wrong is another issue altogether though. think of it like that baker that refused to sell a cake for a gay wedding. He can either submit to to the outside pressure to save his business due to a decrease in sales because of his position, do nothing and fail, or maintain his position and use the bad publicity to obtain a new market. if this gets enough support Toy R us may need to change it's position on selling the product or maintain the status quo. In the end we'll all have our own opinions on it though whether we agree or not lol... Again. I'm not saying the kid should be watching the show or playing with the toy.
I'm just saying I'm against the mom thinking that it's anyone's responsibility but hers that her kid not be exposed. Toys R Us Mission Statement / Values:
Quote: At Toys“R”Us®, we love kids! Since the company’s founding more than 65 years ago, kids have been central to who we are and what we do. We approach our business operations with responsibility and integrity, understanding the trust parents place in us to do the right thing and act as a reliable partner as they navigate the various stages of parenthood. In delivering on our mission to be the World’s Greatest Kids’ Brand, we not only offer parents and families a broad selection of products to create magical playtime memories along with everyday essentials, but we provide the resources necessary to keep their kids safe. This is a core value at the forefront of all we do. Checkmate. Toys R Us done goofed. Take the toys off the shelves and adults go buy this merch at the appropriate stores. Ramyrez said: » Bismarck.Misao said: » Fenrir.Camiie said: » saying Adult Swim doesn't belong on the same channel as the rest of Cartoon Network. I used to love Adult Swim, I actually don't understand the live-action stuff on it though. At all. I mean, I think it's all terrible, but that's besides the point. If it's a terrible cartoon I even get it. It's the not-cartoon on Cartoon Network that throws me for a loop. Also, the sex toy thing is just stupid, but some of you are clearly very, very concerned that these children be protected and that it's the businesses responsibility, not the parents, so...sign the ***'s petition, I guess? I'm just sick of parents expecting society to form itself to their idea of ideal for their offspring. Whatever. Ramyrez said: » Again. I'm not saying the kid should be watching the show or playing with the toy. I'm just saying I'm against the mom thinking that it's anyone's responsibility but hers that her kid not be exposed. they are in no way saying the show shouldn't have existed or that the toys shouldn't exist. They think it's a bad idea to have a toy depicting a meth dealer (and murderer) to be in plain sight of children that frequent that store often. It shouldn't be hard to understand. You just seem to not want the parents of the world to tell you to do anything just cuz you don't want kids lol... World's Greatest Kids Brand slinging toys about a teacher who quit the job to sling drugs with a former student.
Definitely what I'd expect from a kids store. I don't think she is expecting society to form itself to her idea here.
a toy shop targeting at kids have an environment that is kids friendly is probably a fair enough expectation. Just like you wouldn't expect your local day care centre to let your kids to play GTA or watch anything that may deem inappropriate for their age range. I agree the parent has the responsibility to decide what is good/bad for their kids and they can't control every single environment their kids gets exposed to, but businesses clearly has a duty to filter out what is inappropriate if they are trying to target a certain age range. |
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