Commodore's Tricorne +2 Super Charge Increase?

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Commodore's tricorne +2 super charge increase?
 Ragnarok.Littleanimal
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By Ragnarok.Littleanimal 2012-04-05 13:00:51  
Hello and thank you in advanced for reading my question, I was just wondering if anyone knew if this item's ability in enhancement has been substantially increased with the +2 version and if so, what possible increase is it?
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-04-05 13:02:25  
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/27631/commodore-set-merit-enhancements/
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By Ragnarok.Littleanimal 2012-04-05 13:43:18  
heeeeyyyy thanks for totally not reading my thread, I asked if there was a supercharge enhancement to the item, not what the merit enhancement was. thanks though I guess?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-05 13:50:30  
Your question wasn't very clear either.

If your question is "does it provide any additional bonus to Phantom Roll beyond the NQ or +1," the answer is no.

The Phantom Roll enhancement as it stands gives a 33% chance of providing the job boost to the roll even if you don’t have that job in party. The +1 and +2 do not further boost this chance in any fashion of which I’ve heard or experienced.
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By Fupafighters 2012-04-05 14:10:56  
Test it lol. Not hard to test say chaos roll enhancements.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-04-05 14:14:34  
Considering that most +2 items do enhance the potency of their buffs, I wouldn't be surprised if it does increase the effect of phantom roll more often. I'll do some tests when I have time, a decent sample size to say it's larger than a 33% chance of enhancement could take some time.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-05 14:32:36  
Possible I suppose. Hadn't really considered the fact other +2s further enhance, this should too. The logic is sound enough, though as stated, sample size would be a bit of a hassle. I've not experienced it being notably higher, though I freely admit this is eyeballing which can be wildly inaccurate.

Unless for some reason I'm using Blitzer's Roll, I always roll with it on anyhow though. No reason to not, really, reagardless.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-05 14:35:20  
BGWiki "claims" a +17% increase (50%) but I see no testing.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-05 14:46:20  
Wait. Which BG Wiki?

I see nothing about an additional +17% on this page:

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Commodore_Tricorne_%2B2
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-04-05 15:01:57  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Wait. Which BG Wiki? I see nothing about an additional +17% on this page: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Commodore_Tricorne_%2B2

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Phantom_Roll
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By Ragnarok.Littleanimal 2012-04-05 15:11:22  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Your question wasn't very clear either.

If your question is "does it provide any additional bonus to Phantom Roll beyond the NQ or +1," the answer is no.

The Phantom Roll enhancement as it stands gives a 33% chance of providing the job boost to the roll even if you don’t have that job in party. The +1 and +2 do not further boost this chance in any fashion of which I’ve heard or experienced.

You're right I apologize, it wasn't very clear and yes that is my question. Thanks for the info.
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By Ragnarok.Littleanimal 2012-04-05 15:12:06  
Awesome thanks for the link much appreciated!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-04-05 16:45:08  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Wait. Which BG Wiki? I see nothing about an additional +17% on this page: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Commodore_Tricorne_%2B2

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Phantom_Roll

Dammit. Why wouldn't it be right on the hat page? -.-;

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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-04-05 17:00:24  
Well, it has "verification needed" so who knows if it's true or not.
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By DjenadiofAsura 2012-04-18 14:27:27  
Personally i believe the 50% chance to supercharge.

I did test this myself while fighting JoL and half the time (6/11 rolls) I supercharged Chaos roll w/o a Drk in pty. Would have tested more but had changed job to Thf, either way I strongly feel 50% seems about right.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-04-18 18:52:58  
DjenadiofAsura said: »
Personally i believe the 50% chance to supercharge.

I did test this myself while fighting JoL and half the time (6/11 rolls) I supercharged Chaos roll w/o a Drk in pty. Would have tested more but had changed job to Thf, either way I strongly feel 50% seems about right.

Certainly not 50% last time I tested(tried to roll 100 times evoker to test +2 head last time), your sample size is too small.

Although I need to test again because bg-wiki's info about No.8 evokers seems wrong, ( http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Evoker%27s_Roll http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Evoker%27s_Roll) and after I notice it's different I was already half way done with rolling, kinda pissed having to do it all over again ;<
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