Coruscanti Testing
Coruscanti Testing
There's no anomalies on crit hit section. It's kinda expected with only 3 anomaly occurences in non-crit section.
Not much I can do until people start killing them again :(
399 vs EM (516 def) = 0.773
Base damage: 51 (+2 fStr); in line with 122 str vs 118 vit
Anomalies: 99-120 (pDif: 1.941 - 2.27)
cRatio for anomalies must be between 1.895 and 2.000
More samples needed to pin it to 2.0 (127 max damage would confirm 2.0), but I think it's a pretty safe bet for the EM mobs.
0.773 >> 2.0 means either a 2.6x or higher attack multiplier, or it's just a simple capping of cRatio. In conjunction with the crab data, can pretty convincingly say that it caps cRatio.
When you get to T's, 124-127 max damage would confirm 2.0 cap, while 123 max would support 1.95 cap.
Base damage: 51 (+2 fStr); in line with 122 str vs 118 vit
Anomalies: 99-120 (pDif: 1.941 - 2.27)
cRatio for anomalies must be between 1.895 and 2.000
More samples needed to pin it to 2.0 (127 max damage would confirm 2.0), but I think it's a pretty safe bet for the EM mobs.
0.773 >> 2.0 means either a 2.6x or higher attack multiplier, or it's just a simple capping of cRatio. In conjunction with the crab data, can pretty convincingly say that it caps cRatio.
When you get to T's, 124-127 max damage would confirm 2.0 cap, while 123 max would support 1.95 cap.
JPs will probably show up and start murdering them in a few hours, and I'll be able to say for sure.
Unless some charitable soul on Bismarck wishes to come kill Bluffalo now!
idk ive crit for 800+ inside abby a few times no triple atk set bonus or anything
Fahkyu said: »
idk ive crit for 800+ inside abby a few times no triple atk set bonus or anything
Thank you for your scientific input.
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just stating facts... having the same attack so....
You didn't post your gear set or the conditions you were under. It was probably a triple attack set proc.
It's completely useless to say "lol I did this random damage amount" without stating the conditions.
It's completely useless to say "lol I did this random damage amount" without stating the conditions.
I did 16.5K in abyssea. This should answer everything about the dagger.
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well for one i did say there was no triple attack, as far as conditions and gear goes, who really gives a ***, i was working on some dagger trials. sry that doesnt help your haphazard testing data for coruscanti. like a gm said its proc rate is as rare and random as the knife itself.
It's not haphazard testing data. The data are pretty concrete as to what is happening. It's relatively apparent you didn't read any of it.
nope... read nothing just somehow stumbled on this thread and decided to post random comments.
@aus did you really do a 16.5k crit or was thatjust a weak attempt to troll me?
@aus did you really do a 16.5k crit or was thatjust a weak attempt to troll me?
Nope, was a legit amount of damage.
I can also do 5K on AV.
I can also do 5K on AV.
If you have a problem with the way the tests were conducted then why not offer constructive criticism, and attempt explain why over the thousands of attacks represented in these samples, nothing outside of the mechanism we've determined (ignoring defense/capping ratio) happened.
Even at a 0.1% proc rate, after 3000 attacks, we'd essentially be guaranteed to have seen a "Severely damaging" attack.
That is not the case.
Instead, it really does look like you decided to ignore the tests all together and go off of your own ideas about what the dagger does.
Without knowing your gear, atmas, etc, it's impossible to determine the many possible scenarios that could cause an 800 dmg crit in Abyssea.
Even at a 0.1% proc rate, after 3000 attacks, we'd essentially be guaranteed to have seen a "Severely damaging" attack.
That is not the case.
Instead, it really does look like you decided to ignore the tests all together and go off of your own ideas about what the dagger does.
Without knowing your gear, atmas, etc, it's impossible to determine the many possible scenarios that could cause an 800 dmg crit in Abyssea.
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any SS's?
because i asked for a screenshot for proof?
You wouldn't bother looking at it.
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i wouldnt? or i shouldnt?
You have Coruscanti. Why don't you test it by yourself following the same setup given in earlier pages? Even if he gave you SS, you can simply dismiss them as "shopped".
Constructive comments only please.
Constructive comments only please.
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GO back under yo damn bridge lol.
Out of curiosity, what do you expect them to say (if they even respond) on that official forum thread?
I mean, part of me doubts they'll know what you're talking and just nod their heads again with 'It is working as intended'
I mean, part of me doubts they'll know what you're talking and just nod their heads again with 'It is working as intended'
well i wasnt askin sylow, i was asking if what austar is sayin is true, if reading the thread properly you would have noticed it, im sorry. and yes i have tested my knife, not with what sylow is using. just kparser and screenshots to insure it wasnt triple atk set proc(only using 2 pieces of +2gear) just checking it out. to cut the crap, the whole atk mod theory is new to me versus the quad. dmg and i wonder how my normal crits inside abby are ~200-230 and "unusual" crits went as high as 880. obviously thats a little more than triple dmg. and probably more than double my attack.
880/3 = 293, so it's not really unusual, especially if it corresponded to a hit messing with your attack.
Fahkyu said: »
well i wasnt askin sylow, i was asking if what austar is sayin is true, if reading the thread properly you would have noticed it, im sorry. and yes i have tested my knife, not with what sylow is using. just kparser and screenshots to insure it wasnt triple atk set proc(only using 2 pieces of +2gear) just checking it out. to cut the crap, the whole atk mod theory is new to me versus the quad. dmg and i wonder how my normal crits inside abby are ~200-230 and "unusual" crits went as high as 880. obviously thats a little more than triple dmg. and probably more than double my attack.
Were the 880 crit coming from your Mandau? Are you sure it's not Mandau triple damage bonus?
Did you see that number again after another 500~1000 attack?
You didn't tell us the full story here.
Did you see that number again after another 500~1000 attack?
You didn't tell us the full story here.
I apologize, some attacks without defender got through, but I never saw anything above 121.
Based on the rarity of 122/123, I'm going to go ahead and say that it's probably not ignoring ratio correction :)
Unless there's something weird in the crit section.
Based on the rarity of 122/123, I'm going to go ahead and say that it's probably not ignoring ratio correction :)
Unless there's something weird in the crit section.
the dagger isnt broken for sure. i was fighting panthers and then bees in abby. they dont have any def up abilities and i dont have any def down. no food either. ive seen triple atk setproc so many times i know how to depict the difference lol
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