Best Moogle Weapon

I know there is a topic about it already, but there doesn't seem to be a clear or even majority decisiion on this, and i just wanted to know if 2 STR swords or 2 MACC weapons are best... I'm leaning towards one of each, but im new to blu since i just hit 75 yesterday

STR ones.

guessing by your answer macc and mp aren't rly needed at 85 blu? well not needed i mean, rather not as good on weapons as str and att?

Do two STR/ATK swords. Maybe one magic accuracy sword, but only if you really don't have anything to work on.

what do you mean by not having anything to work on? i mean absolute 2 best swords outside of mythic/emperyeal

That last part refers to the magic accuracy sword.

ie: if you're really super bored, already have your STR swords and feel like torturing yourself with more trials, then by all means do a macc sword. If you're trying to stun-lock something, one DEX and one macc sword is probably the best, but it's a kinda meh situation.

If stun locking anything big and significantly resistant to stun, then go for 2 MACC swords for sure, but if that's not a situation you see yourself in, then don't bother.

i personally use 2STR, i'm currently doing OAT 2-3 trial for NM and HNM fights or just when i want to spice things up, with 2 STR swords, i do a lot of damage both swinging and casting. My former swords were koggelmander and beast slayer.

2 STR is definitely the way to go.

If you really want Macc swords, wait until you finish STR. The Macc swords are entirely situational, and won't give you nearly as much overall goodness.

HNMs would be the main time I'd put my 2-3 swd away. Rather not tp feed most HNMs unless zerging in which case your spamming spells

I'd go for the dex and acc sword, most of ur spells r physical and multi hit. Unless u like doing alot of blu magic spells macc is pointless on swords.

Str is ok and attk is useless on spells, so overall i think dex and acc. benefits u.

DEX swords are a waste of time. Capping hitrate is trivial for 99.9% of the game's content (especially with AF3), and the rest generally isn't melee-friendly to begin with.

Since when is acc a waste of time? My aword is dex+8 acc+14 and i do good meele dmg not counting the acc for spells.

And if ur gonna agrue my answer at least come up with a better solution.

Acc on your weapons is a waste of time because you generally don't need that accuracy (have more than enough from normal gear + food), how is that not clear from my post? Better solution is STR swords, thought that was obvious. The thing about weapons is you generally fulltime them, so it makes more sense to make weapons with stats that are always relevant. Making trades on the DEX swords' acc is difficult even on higher level content and on 75 cap content it's downright impossible because you'll cap acc with STR swords, ring, back, meat, etc.

Saying DEX Shamshir is a waste of time is a bit harsh, in my opinion. Since most endgame is in Abyssea now and with all the buffs/atmas you can get from NPC, I'd prefer the 8 DEX and 14 acc over the 8 STR and 18 attack if I had a choice of just one(I have 1 STR and 1 DEX shamshir) as far as my BLU goes. Plus DEX Shamshir for my setup is a godsend for my TP gear. It's not that good anymore with Empyrean armor out, and will certainly change once I get some of the BLU empyrean gear, but it still gets the job done for now. DEX Shamshir compensates some of the huge amounts of accuracy missing in the other slots where accuracy is traded off for haste. This is what I use for TP most the time just so you get an idea as to why DEX Shamshir is far from useless to me even when I eat sushi. Now I know this isn't what you probably call "normal gear" so I guess that's why I'm an exception.



Get the sword(s) and weapons that best fits the setups you're aiming for, I always say.

Truth hurts?
That's part of why you SHOULDN'T be using a DEX Shamshir. All those buffs make capping acc a joke. Even if you're somehow pDIF capped (fSTR is easy), the STR still has a greater effect on spells and WS.
I'll get to this in a minute.
Because you should be capping acc with sushi. Stop underrating your hitrate.
Why are you TPing in Nashira Manteel and Mavi Tathlum? If those are both DEX swords, you have way more accuracy than me even when I TP in Strigoi + Amemet +1 (screw Forager's for the time being, not worthwhile when something better may come out and I'm working on augments), which is what I generally do when eating Sole Sushi (pretty common for Abyssea parties).

EDIT: you lack sword merits. Still, you should be more than fine without DEX swords and on older content where you don't need any of that acc it should be painfully obvious that STR swords are superior.

I think you shouldn't TP in that for the sole reason it's going to look HIDEOUS.

ITT: Nashira Manteel and Acubens Helm are hideous

.dat swap gooooooooo. who cares if its hideous for you as long as it looks good on my screen >.>

Together, are they not O_o?

I forgot to mention I have the Atma of the Stout Arm, 40 STR, 50 atk in Abyssea, which is all I really do anymore. The STR from Shamshir has an even lesser effect on me than the accuracy. I don't understand as to why you think there's only ONE way to do these weapons and it's all solely STR path, apparently. (What is this, 2006 where Taru can't be melee because STRSTRSTRSTR?) I TP in manteel because I'm going for a capped haste set, tathlum because I'm eating sushi already and not too fond of the HP and evasion down for just 2 measly accuracy with Tiphia Sting. Lastly, I don't think I'm underrating my hit rate, I just like to be well rounded with ACC/ATK/haste on BLU. What I'm using now works for me and I'm pretty content, so go ahead and dissect this post if that's what you want to do. Edit: BLU isn't my only job, if it were possible, I would cap sword merits, but I have multiple DD jobs to attend to also.

DEF down sword

Hmm, I'm glad someone else asked this question already.

I was at first going to go for one STR/Attack and one DEX/Accuracy weapon for my Blue Mage (and maybe even one Magic Accuracy one if I really had to) mostly because I'm an accuracy nut and hate "whiff"ing even when it's a fast weapon.

Hell, knowing how fast I progress at this game it'll probably be 3 years before I even finish one weapon, so I'll definitely start with STR.

Magic Accuracy is an underrated stat in my opinion. It affects a lot of Blue Magic, especially considering how much the job has in terms of enfeebling potential. But on a weapon that I have to spend so much time on, I know it's a lower priority.

How can you have less than no effect?
Hardly, but a nice strawman nonetheless. There's plenty of options, DEX just happens to be low on the totem pole and it's of comparable difficulty to obtain as compared to the STR sword, so it's a convenient comparison. If you're up to investing in other options (which will also generally outperform DEX swords), more power to you.
Smart Grenade? Either way, conflicting priorities and Nashira was never a particularly good TP piece given how haste and JA delay interact, not to mention our spell:melee split.
What you think is false, so... just saying. Should try parsing sometime.

Haste+3% and BlueMagic+5? Feel free to give better options for the slots.

Also, Nightfyre, instead of advocating STR 8+8 on swords, start working on getting yourself Atma of Stout Arm and Atma of Voracious Violet. Most things outside abyssea are too weak now, regardless of what sword you're using.

For me Haste and capping ACC for TP would be the way to go. Unless your damage comes mostly from meeling, Attack does very little to you. And having that much ACC for multihit spells on swords lets you load more STR/DEX/VIT in armor slots. Aside from Quad.Cont. DEX is modifier for all multihits that matter.

Don't get so aggressive Nightfyre, I agree STR swords are nice to have too, but it doesn't look like to me the guy is doing it wrong.

Also, if you look at Macc sword trial requirements, you'll see they are waaaay more easy to complete than STR or DEX sword. Provided you got inventorry space, it's not hard to get yourself a pair.

About finished with my Dex and Str sword, set up works for me in both TP and spells. I used to use Perdu/Koggel, really glad AF3 head has Haste on it and even more so sword skill :D kicks Walahra and SNAAAAAKE headband out of the way. I love this new fad of solely stacking on STR though, last year it was M.Acc.

i'm suprised no one has mentioned the vit+8 and PDT -9% to go along with a PDT set for when you rip those big juicy Qaud continuums and pull hate or for soloing and many other uses when your the one tanking its honestly a great sword. for instance i was in attowa abyssea the other day and the cockatrice would hit me for like 250 until i hit my gear swap and then they were doing 70-90 much more tolerable when you know your gonna get hit. don't get me wrong the other swords all have there benefits as well just wanted to throw another sword in the mix.

Mirage/Morrigan's, Tiphia Sting/Smart Grenade
BLU is still likely uncapped pDIF, should not be using both atmas simultaneously (refresh atma where?), and the STR still affects spells.

Outside content only reinforces my point given how useless accuracy is on old content. You basically autocap hitrate these days on 75 cap stuff.
I use a full damage set on my multihits and still cap accuracy. Your point?

Wait wait wait wait... you're saying people are wasting slots on gear that could be better and yet you're TPing in Amemet+1 instead of going for broke and just using Forager's? Or my gosh, some accuracy with Sharpeye mantle and throw some other stats elsewhere?



If you don't mind I'd like to see this TP gear/Casting gear.