Best Katana Setup Now That Magian Hit

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best katana setup now that magian hit
 Ifrit.Kawasaki
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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-04-27 17:02:51  
I want to know given equal gear's, where combinations of these weapons fall in total dmg:

Mozu : 43/227

Isatu : 34/232 (OAT)

Kuina : 36/201 +4str+12attack, and +4dex+8accuracy

Kuina : 38/210 add/impairs evasion and 38/210 add/impairs defense

fudo : 40/227 or 39/227 +2dex or 39/227 +2str

senjuinrikio : 38/227
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-04-27 17:05:08  
I'm willing to bet Senj will stay the main hand of choice for a long time due to the 6% crit hit and Jin. Depending on how much the OAT is of the magian weapon its possible it could out perform Perdu. I'm surprised you left that off your list tbh.
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By Phoenix.Gerrott 2010-04-27 17:27:37  
I finished Mozu a couple weeks ago, and I'm gathering Ruthven Nails to finish Isatu atm. Just eyeballing it, hard to imagine either being beaten out for their slot.

Yes Senji is nice for Jin, but in my opinin the 5 base damage outweighs the crit on main hand for WS. So far have not been dissapointed, though sorry to inform no math to back it up.

Also, the agility/evasion katanas look incredibly nice for soloing. 24evasion/8 agility just from weapon slots. Beats out Austures for random non-fighting, run mobs around situations too.
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By Leviathan.Abriel 2010-04-27 17:52:44  
don't forget that +6% crit. on senji is a full time thing. I'd go through the math of it all to make sure which came out on top, that +6% critical rate is actually more important during the TP phase which is roughly 70% of a nin's total dmg.
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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-04-27 20:55:50  
I didn't leave out 6% crit, or 3% crit. i'd assume you'd know the katana's had that. I still want a breakdown though :P
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-04-27 21:23:03  
The Defense/Evasion down Katanas are incredibly potent TOOLS, but probably won't be the best DPS options. But just because they might not be the absolution of damage, doesn't mean they aren't incredibly valueble (And those lines of Magian quests are generally very easy compared to the rest).

Either way, I think the best options are

(Fast fights)
Mozu/Isatu(The real one)

Or For longer fights where the Add Effect can really shine

Kuina(Def or Evasion down depends on Target)/Isatu

Currently I'm playing with the Severance(DMG100 Add.Eff.: Def Down) And I gotta say, it's a beast. The Additional Effect activates on 1/3 of the strikes for an unkown (I assume 10%? Def Down) Tested on EP-EM so far, looking forward to checking it out on something with a lil more fight. So if this is anything to go off (Which, 2handers might have been skewed to activate more cause of high delay) then pretty much all the AddEffect:Stat Down weapons are incredibly powerful additions to anyone's arsenal.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-27 21:41:05  
Senj is already dethroned by augmented DMG+ fudo, lol.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-04-27 21:42:24  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Senj is already dethroned by augmented DMG fudo, lol.

Is that something that can be reliably obtained though? Sometimes those augments can be a real crapshoot, but it does make it all the more satisfying when you get that "One".
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-27 21:49:14  
Only 60k and I've seen a few myself. Something 60k is spammable really.
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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-04-27 22:06:25  
If those -def, -eva katana's can procc on Kirin level monsters then I'd consider getting one. but still best katanas and rankings ;P

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By Phoenix.Drunktexan 2010-04-29 16:18:58  
http://killingifrit.com/forums/topic/181886-mozu-senjuinrikio/

This post looks to based on only one parse, but it certainly provides evidence that Mozu might be a better choice for dps than Senj.
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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-05-01 02:09:27  
just guessing, this is how I would expect them to go

Mozu / Isatu
Senj / Isatu
Kuina imp. eva > dex.acc > imp. def > str.atk / Isatu
Fudo 40 / Isatu
Isatu / Perdu
senj > fudo 40 / Kuina imp. eva > dex.acc > imp. def > str.atk
fudo 40 / senj

thoughts ? I'd like to know what % dps they are and how close they are to each other etc.
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-05-01 03:19:28  
I made an excel sheet to calculate dps and estimate the number of attack rounds needed to WS. Maybe it can help you.
Doesn't work with hasso (but we don't need hasso).

Can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/?zmm4zg0mo5q
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-05-01 03:20:38  
I always perferred Kikoku and blasting out Blade Metsus
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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-05-01 04:56:38  
found this

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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-05-08 02:19:36  
I have the -def. katana, it seems to procc maybe 10% of the time and its wind based. I did a merit party but a ranger was using -atk arrows so I only got 3 procc's all party. will let you know more as I test it more.
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By Ifrit.Kawasaki 2010-05-11 04:01:26  
after further testing, its almost impossible to procc -def on colibri, but it owns lower lv mobs. I still need more testing on god strength mobs. worked well in dynamis
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