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Trial of the Magians: Ninja
 Diabolos.Ghlin
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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-03-23 13:14:20  
578 -> 580
581->585 Mozu (36/227 Dmg +7)
586->587
587->588 Izatu (21/222 Dmg +13 Dly +10 atk twice)
587->591 Izatu (21/222 Dly +20 atk twice)

592->593
594->597 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly - 26 Str +4 Atk +12)
593->599 Kuina (27 /227 Dmg +11 Dly -17 Add effect weakens atk +10)
600->603 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Agi +4 Eva + 12)
600->605 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 dly -17 impairs eva +10)
606->609 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Dex +4 Acc +8)
606->611 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 Dly -17 lowers acc +10)
612->615 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Chr +4 Mag eva +10)
612->617 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 Dmy -17 lowers mag eva +10)
592->618
619->622 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Mab +5 Int +4)
619->624 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 Dly -17 lowers Mab +10)
625->628 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Vit +4 PDT -5)
625->630 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 Dly -26 Lowers def +10)
631->634 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Mnd +4 MDB +5)
631->636 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 Dly - 17 Lowers mag def +10)
637->640 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +9 Dly -26 Mp +30 Macc +10)
637->642 Kuina (27/227 Dmg +11 Dly -17 lowers macc +10)

from: http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90728&page=2

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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-03-23 13:16:04  
The occ. attack twice one will only be good as the proc rate, but Mozu/Izatu i doubt will be topped (bar relic).

Not sure where Perdu or Senju stand now.
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-03-24 02:41:00  
Dps wise, they all beat Senji and Perdu.
Yes, all these Katanas are better, and that's without looking at the additional stats, only dmg and dly.
Add the extra acc or atk, or the defense down/eva down effects and they will totally blow Senji/Perdu.


Kikoku+ -------- 45/210 -- 12.85
Kikoku --------- 42/210 -- 12.00
Mozu ----------- 43/227 -- 11.36
Kuina (debuff) - 38/210 -- 10.85
Kuina (buff) --- 36/201 -- 10.74
Perdu ---------- 32/190 -- 10.10
Senji ---------- 38/227 -- 10.04
Izatu (a) ------ 34/232 -- 08.79 (need to know DA %)
Izatu (b) ------ 21/242 -- 05.02 (need to know DA %)
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By Cerberus.Hayai 2010-03-24 04:13:04  
woot some decent katanas for once!
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By Garuda.Malicious 2010-03-31 14:20:10  
Anyone else enjoying trial 592?
please forgive me for dripping sarcasm all over this post.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-03-31 14:25:00  
I went the Mozu quest first. Still need to kill Capricornus 6 times in order to finish it.
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By Bahamut.Asaru 2010-03-31 14:29:54  
What if you already own a Kikoku? >.> and offhand perdu. Would the occ attack twice or str+4 attack+12 one win?
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By Ifrit.Rikiyame 2010-03-31 14:51:12  
Upgrade Kikoku. 45 @ 210 = 12.86 DPS plus it's the highest base damage for WS. Off-hand Isatu 34 @ 232. I'd like to know the proc rate of two attacks. Assuming it is like most others, 34@232=8.793DPS, but 45% increase for proc (assumed) = 12.75 DPS. Perdu is 10.11. They are a lot of work, but worth it, at this point. Let's see what comes out for 99.

All other katanas are less than 11 DPS, but can be useful for add. effects.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-04-01 10:58:06  
Woot!

Finally after camping NM's nonstop for a week:

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By Ifrit.Rikiyame 2010-04-01 11:11:21  
Carbuncle.Zanno said:
Woot! Finally after camping NM's nonstop for a week:

Congratulations!
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-04-01 11:52:55  
Thank you! :D
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By Ragnarok.Inga 2010-04-01 12:00:26  
Nice, hope it was worth it, also... Perdu would be a better off hand ;o
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-04-01 12:10:11  
I know. I've just been having a hard time finding ppl to do assault, "Nyzul Onry" people everywhere. So I'm embarrassed to say I'm too low rank to get the perdu >.<

I've been thinking about working for this for offhand.



Nice DEX and ACC boost for my gimpy elvaan =P
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By Ragnarok.Inga 2010-04-01 13:14:14  
that does look pretty nice as an alternative if you don't have access to perdu.

I'm just not a fan of high delay lol, understandable that losing 6% crit hit rate is a lot to lose for your overall dot.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-04-01 13:53:22  
Yeah, I'm slowly but surely working on my mercenary ranks whenever i get the chance to. I'm going to get perdu, unless some other awesome weapon is added soonish. Also been thinking about one of those "occasionally attack twice" katana as offhand. We'll see. Mozu took alot of work to finish, and seems that the double attack katana's are almost as painful, if not more so because of the VNM T3 items you need for them.

I'm glad I finished Mozu now though, because I imagine a couple of months from now it'll be even harder to find people to team up with for the hunt ^^
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By Ragnarok.Inga 2010-04-01 15:30:21  
Yeah, I'm working on the VNM Occ. Attack twice katana, with people farming the ***out of the vampire NM its making it very difficult to get the nails, and people offering to merc it to me, when I have a shell that can do it.. really frustrating D:
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-04-21 21:13:39  
I'm still trying for nails.... its killing me not having a super sexy 40% OAT offhand weapon.
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By Bravefencer 2010-04-21 21:30:20  
the double attack katana with low damage is still good for offhand yes?
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-04-22 03:16:29  
Probably not.
With 40% OAT, this weapon would have the Dps of a lv 45-50 katana. Dps is about 70% of the total Ninja dmg, and the increase in tping speed isn't as huge as it is for 2Handers (because DW etc...).

I think Mozu/Izatu(+) will be a really interesting combo to have, but I don't think the Izatu(-) is worth getting at all.
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-04-22 12:28:49  
youre missing the fact that in the time it takes for the dmg 39 katana to attack, the izatu has attacked twice for maybe 5-10 points of less damage. With your logic, the joyeuse would never be better than a company sword for pld. Marginally less per hit damage, to add 40% more hits is far better for your dot.
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-04-22 14:29:03  
It's totally pointless to use something else's logic here.
Different jobs, different mechanics, different objectives.
If you were to compare the Izatu(-), it's more like a Thf using a MKris than a Pld using a Joyeuse.

The Izatu(+) that require Nails is probably good.
The Izatu(-) that requires to kill a shitload of DC mobs is definitely not worth your time. Get a double Kuina with acc instead, and fulltime you AFBody everywhere, you'll see a bigger increase imo.
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-04-23 13:57:23  
"The Izatu(+) that require Nails is probably good."

This is the one we're talking about...

Izatu (21/222 Dmg +13 Dly +10 atk twice)
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-04-23 14:19:25  
Bravefencer asked a question about the low damage one. He specifically mentioned "the double attack katana with low damage".
Which part of "low damage" do you not understand ?
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-04-23 14:35:09  
I thought you were MIA Aryden, Did you finish your katana?
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By Lakshmi.Malicious 2010-04-23 15:27:27  
If you wanna have some fun with a WHM, trial 597 is great.
After only 60 kills, I have penguins chasing my WHM if she casts haste on me, blink on herself, dia II will pull hate after a 700dmg ws, and I still have 340 more kills to go... yeah for 2 of the same, I know i know, but hey to each his own.
It is still funny to watch her freak out next to me....
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By Shiva.Xellith 2010-04-25 13:19:38  
Would 2 of the physical dmg taken -5% katanas be at all worth the trouble to replace an earth staff for nin/drk tanking? (yea if im fighting a hard thing i use a staff lol). Im just not sure that the dmg from them will be viable since they are pretty low
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-04-25 15:07:38  
Bismarck.Altar said:
I thought you were MIA Aryden, Did you finish your katana?


I was for most of the month, has some business issues to take care of.

But, no i havent gotten the 10 nails yet, gonna work on that the next 2 weeks hopefully.

Shiva.Xellith said:
Would 2 of the physical dmg taken -5% katanas be at all worth the trouble to replace an earth staff for nin/drk tanking? (yea if im fighting a hard thing i use a staff lol). Im just not sure that the dmg from them will be viable since they are pretty low

Most of the time when you would be staff tanking, it would NOT behoove you to be meleeing the mob and giving more TP. So i would definately say situational at best.
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2010-04-25 15:19:05  

Carbuncle.Zanno said:
Woot!

Finally after camping NM's nonstop for a week:

how is this one? was looking at this + higher DMG OAT katana for TP set

but still working on baby blobs for OAT lance -.-
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By Shiva.Xellith 2010-05-06 17:28:16  
I have the 43 dmg Mozu completed and im working on the weakens enemy defence katana. After that ill probobly work on two evasion katanas... /wrist
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