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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-15 20:21:01  
Odin.Blazza said:
I have no idea what you just said, but read underneath the table in my OP
Basically the same thing but more fully explained. Basically the 3 crafted make the 9 others via synergy. Didn't realized you added more to your OP... side note goldsmith 94 with all but wood clothe and bone subs got none of these recipes though some other new stuffs
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-11-15 22:15:40  
Well the crafting npc doesn't give a ***about your sub crafts, he'll reccommend the based on the main craft only. The fact that we have the three full non exclusive sets with recipes, and then the whole 9 exclusive sets WITHOUT recipes suggests that we've found everything we're going to find until synergy is released. ie: no goldsmithing for you!
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-15 22:23:27  
Odin.Blazza said:
ie: no goldsmithing for you!
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ No bone from the look of it either which is actually higher on my mule
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-11-15 22:54:50  
I'm wondering if there's a way to craft Ebur/Furia Frock/Breastplate/Harness yet. They're not Ex, just like the Ebon Frock/Breastplate/Harness.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-11-15 22:58:00  
Furia Pigment, Ebur Pigment. Look at the description, I'm guessing not.
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-11-16 16:58:01  
There's also an Ebon Pigment though.
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By Leviathan.Zeitx 2009-11-16 19:23:27  
Pandemonium.Nususu said:
There's also an Ebon Pigment though.

Maybe we'll be able to change the color of the armor whenever we want via synergy.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-11-16 22:08:28  
!WARNING! Philosophisationing incoming !WARNING!
Pandemonium.Nususu said:
There's also an Ebon Pigment though.
There is, but it seems the recipe is for Ebon in the first place. In order to change from one type to another, you need to need to use the armour with the desired pigment in a synergy furnace. Aside from simply changing the colour of the armour (which you may want to do just for looks), this will allow you to have two of the exact same piece of armour, with different Evolith Augments, but still be able to choose which one you use with a macro.

For instance, if I have two Erlking's Blades, I can't choose which one goes in my main hand with a macro, it will always pick the same one first, but it might not be the one I want.

So depending on what the augments will be, it's quite possible that you may want two of the same piece, with different augments for different situations.

Evolith Augments:
BG said:
Vs. beasts:
Vs. plantoids:
Vs. vermin:
Vs. lizards:
Vs. birds:
Vs. amorphs:
Vs. aquans:
Vs. undead:
Vs. elementals:
Vs. arcana:
Vs. Demons:
Vs. dragons:
Vs. Empty:
Vs. Luminians:
Mighty Strikes:
Hundred Fists:
Benediction:
Manafont:
Chainspell:
Perfect Dodge:
Invincible:
Blood Weapon:
Familiar:
Soul Voice:
Eagle Eye Shot:
Meikyo Shisui:
Mijin Gakure:
Spirit Surge:
Astral Flow:
Azure Lore:
Wild Card:
Overdrive:
Trance:
Tabula Rasa:
Hand-to-hand weapon skills:
Dagger weapon skills:
Sword weapon skills:
Great sword weapon skills:
Axe weapon skills:
Great axe weapon skills:
Scythe weapon skills:
Polearm weapon skills:
Katana weapon skills:
Great katana weapon skills:
Club weapon skills:
Staff weapon skills:
Archery weapon skills:
Marksmanship weapon skills:
Light elemental divine magic:
Light elemental healing magic:
Fire elemental enhancing magic:
Ice elemental enhancing magic:
Wind elemental enhancing magic:
Earth elemental enhancing magic:
Lightning elemental enhancing magic:
Water elemental enhancing magic:
Light elemental enhancing magic:
elemental enhancing magic:
Fire elemental enfeebling magic:
Ice elemental enfeebling magic:
Wind elemental enfeebling magic:
Earth elemental enfeebling magic:
Lightning elemental enfeebling magic:
Water elemental enfeebling magic:
Light elemental enfeebling magic:
Darkness elemental enfeebling magic:
Fire elemental magic:
Ice elemental magic:
Wind elemental magic:
Earth elemental magic:
Lightning elemental magic:
Water elemental magic:
Light elemental magic:
Darkness elemental magic:
Darkness elemental dark magic
Fire elemental songs:
Ice elemental songs:
Wind elemental songs:
Earth elemental songs:
Lightning elemental songs:
Water elemental songs:
Light elemental songs:
Darkness elemental songs:
Fire elemental ninjutsu:
Ice elemental ninjutsu:
Wind elemental ninjutsu:
Earth elemental ninjutsu:
Lightning elemental ninjutsu:
Water elemental ninjutsu:
Light elemental ninjutsu:
Darkness elemental ninjutsu:
Fire elemental blue magic:
Ice elemental blue magic:
Wind elemental blue magic:
Earth elemental blue magic:
Lightning elemental blue magic:
Water elemental blue magic:
Light elemental blue magic:
Darkness elemental blue magic:
Physical blue magic:
Ability delay -%d
Recast delay -%d%%
TP Bonus %+d%%
Casting time -%d%%

This list was apparently .dat mined by someone on BG, so I really can't attribute to the accuracy of it. On top of that we don't know what is going to after the colon. (that's a : symbol btw)

But, I can foresee a BLM for instance, wanting this, with Ice Elemental magic: [Awesome stat], Casting time -%d%% (whatever that means), and Vs. amorphs: [Another awesome stat] (because they love blowing up flans). But then they may also want the exact same piece for thunder. So Cue Ebur Coat, or Furia Coat.

As for the Ebon Pigment, since all of this gear seems to start out as Ebon anyway, I can see this being the least worthwhile of the three, but after you've changed it from Ebon to Ebur or Furia, the Ebon pigment will be used to change it back.
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-11-16 22:39:04  
Thanks, that was very interesting, and makes a lot of sense to me.
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By Unicorn.Smurfo 2009-11-16 23:18:58  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Odin.Blazza said:
ie: no goldsmithing for you!
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ No bone from the look of it either which is actually higher on my mule


Get used to it if you're a goldsmith is all i can say, we haven't for real gotten ***since like star/crimson/celestial/harmonius earring were introduced i think?

and even at that they were: yeah great a bunch of mad expensive synths that no one for real cares to buy considering triumph/communion ears are more affordable...
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By Fairy.Onimusha 2009-11-17 02:03:42  
nice job
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-17 02:15:12  
Odin.Blazza said:
This list was apparently .dat mined by someone on BG, so I really can't attribute to the accuracy of it. On top of that we don't know what is going to after the colon. (that's a : symbol btw)
We know some of it or at least a couple of possiblities. Like 2h3: -delay... or axe ws:+att or light elemental healing magic: -emnity... though that list kinda pretty much means that they really meant healing magic onry not all curatives.
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-11-19 00:17:30  
Bam, that is one awesome table, Blaz. Nice job!
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-08 06:24:05  
New information as of the update. I was asking for recipes and they gave me recipes to take the job specific ebon armors back to the three base armors. Aptants primus, fyrst and arkhe are use to synergize the job specific armor back to the base. That leaves the other nine aptants to synergize from baseto job specific.

I compiled a list of the aptants and what I thought they'd be used for.

Aptant Of Primus
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "source."
-revert to base
Aptant Of Aecus
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "equality."
-ebon coat blm
Aptant Of Durus
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "durable."
-ebon haubert pld
Aptant Of Bellum
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "war."
-cuirass war/drk
Aptant Of Arkhe
 burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "beginning."
-revert to base
Aptant Of Tachus
 burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "quick."
-ebon vest thf/nin/dnc
Aptant Of Pera
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "far."
-ebon jerkin rng/cor
Aptant Of Ishis
 burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "strength."
-ebon mail bst/drg
Aptant Of Fyrst
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "first."
-revert to base
Aptant Of Geoc
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "help."
-ebon talar brd/blu/rdm
Aptant Of Haelan
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "cure."
-ebon bliaut whm/smn
Aptant Of Secan
burnished metallic token bearing an ancient glyph for "attack."
-shikkoku Togo sam/mnk


These are my guesses based on the descriptions of the aptants and the jobs on the armors.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-12-08 08:36:50  
That's kinda weird, I don't get why they wouldn't just consolidate those three "return" aptants into one, but perhaps make them drop off more NMs.

Anyway, it's been a massively hectic few days, but I now have pretty constant access to pretty shitty internet, so hopefully I can do some research on all this and compile all the new information/recipes into the original post. It could well be that to make the ex ebon armour you need a high synergy skill, which means we may not see these recipes for a little while yet.

Anyway, watch this space.
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By Pandemonium.Nususu 2009-12-08 11:24:47  
I asked the synergy engineer for recipes and he gave me these recipes.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=6403#320890

it appears that the craft skills involved in the reversal synergy of the items are lower than required in the synthesis craft of the base items.
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By Ifrit.Yojimboo 2009-12-08 12:23:11  
Got this info off of BG. Seems like for the upgraded ebon piece all u need is base piece and a specific Aptan. So... here is the list they had...

mnk/pup/nin set is Aptant:Ishis < Think was supposed to be mnk/sam/pup
whm/smn set is Aptant: Haelan
Rdm/brd/blu set is Aptant: Geoc
Blm/Sch set is Aptant: Secan
War/drk set is Aptant: Bellum
rng/cor set is Aptant: Pera
Bst/drg set is Aptant: Aecus
PLD one is Aptant: Durus

This leaves out just 1 gear set... Thf/nin/dnc and considering fryst, primus, and arkhe are used to "desynth" into its base state, is probably Aptant: Tachus. Now all that is unkown is if/how many evolith spots can be used for it. Happy hunting~!
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By Fairy.Tbest 2009-12-08 12:31:29  
Blazza said:
But, I can foresee a BLM for instance, wanting this, with Ice Elemental magic: [Awesome stat], Casting time -%d%% (whatever that means), and Vs. amorphs: [Another awesome stat] (because they love blowing up flans). But then they may also want the exact same piece for thunder. So Cue Ebur Coat, or Furia Coat.
If ya wanna blow up flans, might try taking down Aquarius with the hunt. You get a Magic Accuracy +4 or more vs. Amorphs.

You can also socket some current gear. I'm not sure on all the pieces yet.. But, imagine socketing an Igqira Weskit with Mag. Acc. vs. Amorphs +18. >.>
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