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Voracious Resurgence SPOILER Edition
 Asura.Essylt
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By Asura.Essylt 2021-06-14 06:25:02
I think ambuscade weapons are as much of an "Ultimate" weapon they are willing to add to the game anymore.
The current development strategy for XI is all about maximizing the amount of time that players are engaged with a piece of content vs effort spent by the dev team. And from that perspective, adding more ultimate weapons makes a lot of sense, so I fully expect that to happen within the next year or 2.
Ambuscade weapons were a step in that direction, but I don't believe that bonanza weapons will show up anywhere else.
By Heck 2021-06-14 08:00:16
I think ambuscade weapons are as much of an "Ultimate" weapon they are willing to add to the game anymore.
The current development strategy for XI is all about maximizing the amount of time that players are engaged with a piece of content vs effort spent by the dev team. And from that perspective, adding more ultimate weapons makes a lot of sense, so I fully expect that to happen within the next year or 2.
Ambuscade weapons were a step in that direction, but I don't believe that bonanza weapons will show up anywhere else.
Would be unfortunate seeing as a lot of those weapons are good/unique. If anything it might be that they are just going to give you a 'choose 1 option' for them at at the end of voracious.
 Valefor.Heabea
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By Valefor.Heabea 2021-06-14 09:52:27
I might be remembering wrong, but isn't Ra'Kaznar, the gateway to Tartarus? We never went through to Tartarus of course, but I seem to recall that.
As for Alex and Odin, they represent Light and Dark as elements. Not as good and evil. Though Odin is always questionable, in particular since the Kindred answer to him.
I would question whether Odin has a relation to the Kindred in order to create hard times to create stronger mortals to be his Einharjar. Even in mythology Odin has very extreme methods, it would surprise me he would allow the whole crystal war as a way to get more einharjar for ragnarok.
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 Bahamut.Arciel
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By Bahamut.Arciel 2021-08-25 01:36:50
i like the direction they're going with this because its bringing up some of the mysteries that we've known for a while and filling us in more.
Olduum and Ramuul in particular is an interesting plot thread and i like how they managed to even tie Zeni NM bosses into the lore.
Theres also Valhalla and Odin.. i'm not ever surprised by Odin's involvement anymore but RoV did give an explanation as to why Odin does what he does. This time however, it does look like the mage they refer to as leading the rebellion is Garazu-Horeizu. The presence of Honoi-Gomoi and Uran-Mafran in the story also allude to this already.
Now the question is how this ties in with the world eater egg and the co destiny destroyers.
By Ruaumoko 2021-08-25 03:49:41
i like the direction they're going with this because its bringing up some of the mysteries that we've known for a while and filling us in more.
Olduum and Ramuul in particular is an interesting plot thread and i like how they managed to even tie Zeni NM bosses into the lore.
Theres also Valhalla and Odin.. i'm not ever surprised by Odin's involvement anymore but RoV did give an explanation as to why Odin does what he does. This time however, it does look like the mage they refer to as leading the rebellion is Garazu-Horeizu. The presence of Honoi-Gomoi and Uran-Mafran in the story also allude to this already.
Now the question is how this ties in with the world eater egg and the co destiny destroyers. Been considering doing a few videos on the story of Voracious so far and brainstorming where it may be going. Agreed with your points here.
By Wiking 2021-08-25 03:57:34
Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, Aeonic, Celestial You know another line of legendary weapons is coming. It's just a question of when. It's by far the easiest way SE can keep people subbed for a long time on a minimal investment.
Oh, like these thingies...?
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/nomadmogbon/#_20
I'm of the opinion that they're already here, just not implemented yet other than as prizes.
Crazy weapons.
By RadialArcana 2021-08-25 04:01:40
I think ambuscade weapons are as much of an "Ultimate" weapon they are willing to add to the game anymore.
The current development strategy for XI is all about maximizing the amount of time that players are engaged with a piece of content vs effort spent by the dev team. And from that perspective, adding more ultimate weapons makes a lot of sense, so I fully expect that to happen within the next year or 2.
Ambuscade weapons were a step in that direction, but I don't believe that bonanza weapons will show up anywhere else.
They increased the amounts of times a year they hold these lotteries, those weapons were made specifically for this and will never be available anywhere else.
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By Andresman2244 2021-08-25 06:19:11
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2021-08-25 07:41:41
i like the direction they're going with this because its bringing up some of the mysteries that we've known for a while and filling us in more.
Olduum and Ramuul in particular is an interesting plot thread and i like how they managed to even tie Zeni NM bosses into the lore.
Theres also Valhalla and Odin.. i'm not ever surprised by Odin's involvement anymore but RoV did give an explanation as to why Odin does what he does. This time however, it does look like the mage they refer to as leading the rebellion is Garazu-Horeizu. The presence of Honoi-Gomoi and Uran-Mafran in the story also allude to this already.
Now the question is how this ties in with the world eater egg and the co destiny destroyers.
Mind refreshing my memory as to what RoV said about Odin please?
Despite doing the missions on multiple characters I can't for the life of me remember much of the story outside of the major plot tie ins.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2021-08-25 17:30:15
i like the direction they're going with this because its bringing up some of the mysteries that we've known for a while and filling us in more.
Olduum and Ramuul in particular is an interesting plot thread and i like how they managed to even tie Zeni NM bosses into the lore.
Theres also Valhalla and Odin.. i'm not ever surprised by Odin's involvement anymore but RoV did give an explanation as to why Odin does what he does. This time however, it does look like the mage they refer to as leading the rebellion is Garazu-Horeizu. The presence of Honoi-Gomoi and Uran-Mafran in the story also allude to this already.
Now the question is how this ties in with the world eater egg and the co destiny destroyers.
Mind refreshing my memory as to what RoV said about Odin please?
Despite doing the missions on multiple characters I can't for the life of me remember much of the story outside of the major plot tie ins.
The Void is driven back by the conflict of Light and Darkness, personified by Altana and Promathia. Promathia's early death put this balance in peril so Altana appointed Odin as a proxy.
Never let it be said that Odin shirked his responsibilities to the Goddess.
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By RadialArcana 2021-08-25 17:46:49
Is there anywhere that has the entire plot of the expansions written down?
Bahamut.Arciele
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 13
By Bahamut.Arciele 2021-08-28 09:58:57
there isnt a complete collection of story summaries out there as far as i know.
my guess is the next part of the story involves going to the Mamool Ja in search of the Olduum Staff. thats like the next logical step
 Bahamut.Mhysa
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 131
By Bahamut.Mhysa 2021-09-12 09:47:24
So is the Falak idea gone? :( i was getting my hopes up that we could fight him. Also on this new cutscenes, did they just bring up Bahamut and Bismarck? :)
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 Shiva.Liam
サーバ: Shiva
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Posts: 118
By Shiva.Liam 2021-11-11 00:10:53
Does anyone know if there is an English translation of mission 4-3 (the soulflayer one that's still in japanese)?
tried using the power of google and no dice. thanks!
edit: nvm, I guess it's kinda self explanatory once you start the next mission ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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By Zubis 2021-12-11 07:26:01
Dark/Black Weapons have arrived...
By macsdf1 2021-12-11 14:14:01
well ***, guess i better start doing them. maybe they will be in by anniversary
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By Asura.Shermansmith 2021-12-11 14:37:58
I took a screenshot of this too! I'm so excited. I've been saving Pluton and been thinking about making a few Relic if they are to be precursors of the Soul/Black Weapons.
By macsdf1 2021-12-11 21:33:17
wouldn't it be crazy if had to trade in all DREAM gkt to make the new black gkt etc hehehaha?
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 Bahamut.Suph
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 326
By Bahamut.Suph 2021-12-11 22:16:34
Time to make all the relics
By Sylph.Brahmsz 2021-12-12 09:05:31
Would be really cool from a lore point of view if Relic weapons as we know them are revealed to be copies of or disenchanted versions of the Dark Relics.
I always thought the "backstory" behind Relic Weapons was interesting and deserved a bit more lore besides being the weapons of specific Hydra Corps members.
By RadialArcana 2021-12-12 11:26:01
They won't do this but the way I would have black REMA unlocked would be via some kind of Linkshell currency similar to how unity works.
When people do content with your shell equipped the ls gets points, when they reach a certain amount of points as a LS these things get unlocked for everyone in it (if you have a glow rema). Could also make it an ongoing thing too, so you lose them and they go back to normal after a month of low participation.
The game needs to give people reasons to build and maintain shells again, that also encourages people to invite others outside of their core group and help them do stuff.
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-12-12 11:28:50
That would just encourage people to make dummy LSs that they just hand out to literally everyone they can, then the people just do the events with their own groups and pickups like normal.
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サーバ: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2022-04-04 12:38:22
After finishing VR mission 7-3
You get that "Memorian, the Magicked Doll" KI, with it you can run around returning peoples memories. I've tried a bunch of NPCs all over but I found 3 that trigger CS:
Dancing Wolf - Rabao
Honoi-Gomoi - W.Waters S.
Ghatsad - Aht Urhgan Whitegate
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2022-04-04 16:29:22
Update I just noticed there is a KI for a depleted Memorian, so there may still be NPCs that need to be unwhammied, or maybe in upcoming missions.
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Bismarck.Radec
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 132
By Bismarck.Radec 2022-04-04 17:04:52
From dats, haven't done the quests yet: The line "Ooh... To remember...and be remembered..." was added 7 times to dialog tables in 5 zones. I'm assuming that's related to the doll.
1 in Palb Mines
2 in Chateau
1 in windurst waters present
2 in rabao (though, 2nd occurance looks like it fails?)
1 in whitegate
Shiva.Znitch
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 188
By Shiva.Znitch 2022-04-04 18:05:48
Does the mining portion feel... very bugged to anyone else? Four characters, two of them got it after about seven pickaxes each. The other two, I'm about a stack (of 99) and a half in and nothing yet. Zoned out and verified that the NPC had asked me to go get the item, same as the two who got it.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 18:13:06
I got it on my very first swing. It's possible it can only come from specific mining points or something.
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Asura.Hya
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Posts: 282
By Asura.Hya 2022-04-04 18:49:56
I got mine from the first swing also. Likely just luck, but it was a Mining Point near the zone to Yhoator Jungle.
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2022-04-04 19:59:21
From dats, haven't done the quests yet: The line "Ooh... To remember...and be remembered..." was added 7 times to dialog tables in 5 zones. I'm assuming that's related to the doll.
1 in Palb Mines
2 in Chateau
1 in windurst waters present
2 in rabao (though, 2nd occurance looks like it fails?)
1 in whitegate
Ok 'Rahi Fohlatti' in Rabao by the Summoner trial taru is the one that fails.
I think the two in Chateau are part of the last mission.
I don't see how Palborough Mines could have one, there aren't any NPCs. I did go look and took the boat ride back.
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VIP
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2022-04-04 20:01:13
Bahamut.Unagihito said: »From dats, haven't done the quests yet: The line "Ooh... To remember...and be remembered..." was added 7 times to dialog tables in 5 zones. I'm assuming that's related to the doll.
1 in Palb Mines
2 in Chateau
1 in windurst waters present
2 in rabao (though, 2nd occurance looks like it fails?)
1 in whitegate
Ok 'Rahi Fohlatti' in Rabao by the Summoner trial taru is the one that fails.
I think the two in Chateau are part of the last mission.
I don't see how Palborough Mines could have one, there aren't any NPCs. I did go look and took the boat ride back.
Palborough does have one. It is in fact, you the player. You need to zone in from north gustaberg.
I think it's time we made a Voracious Resurgence SPOILER Edition thread. I know a lot of people are holding off to do these until all of them are released and I'd like to talk about things we have learned so far without spoiling if for others. Ya know what? I'll just do that now.
Obviously, if you want to not have things revealed to you, I totally respect that, but by clicking this thread... you really were asking for it.
After this post, spoil away!
Note: If you've made it to TVR, all previous missions content should be available to you so the scope of this thread may deviate outside of just TVR discussions.
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