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New video card frame rate issues - AMD RX 580
 Bismarck.Ihinaa
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2018-11-24 03:29:54  
Had to upgrade from my old card (Nvidia GTX 570) because it was randomly spiking up to 255c and crashing the system. Something was busted in there for sure. Upgraded to an AMD RX 580 and now I seem to be running into frame rate issues (15-20fps) when in a populated area.

I do recall having very bad frame rate issues with my previous card (10-15fps), but that magically went away through the years, I'm not sure what happened. Now that I upgraded to this new AMD card, the frame rate issues are back. Gotta say though, it is nice seeing the GPU temp go from 70-80c with my old card to 50-55c now.

Does anyone know what settings I'm supposed to use or if there's anything additional I'm supposed to install to play this old game? Thanks.
 
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By DaneBlood 2018-11-24 04:01:49  
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/37945/ffxi-lag-and-you/
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2018-11-24 07:46:35  
255c sounds more like your card had some kind of short and it just so happened to affect the temperature sensor and cause it to flip the *** out. You're talking temps exceeding that of a standard conventional oven. Likely the readout maxed at 255.
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By Shiva.Devastation 2018-11-24 07:58:54  
Bismarck.Ihinaa said: »
Had to upgrade from my old card (Nvidia GTX 570) because it was randomly spiking up to 255c and crashing the system. Something was busted in there for sure. Upgraded to an AMD RX 580 and now I seem to be running into frame rate issues (15-20fps) when in a populated area.

I do recall having very bad frame rate issues with my previous card (10-15fps), but that magically went away through the years, I'm not sure what happened. Now that I upgraded to this new AMD card, the frame rate issues are back. Gotta say though, it is nice seeing the GPU temp go from 70-80c with my old card to 50-55c now.

Does anyone know what settings I'm supposed to use or if there's anything additional I'm supposed to install to play this old game? Thanks.

Make sure the card is being used, and not the intergrated video card. You can set it to your new GPU in the settings.
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2018-11-24 09:56:29  
>AMD

found the problem
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By Ragnarok.Casey 2018-11-24 12:59:15  
Install dgvoodoo
By Jetackuu 2018-11-24 13:36:29  
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
>AMD

found the problem
We should hang out more.
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2018-11-24 15:44:12  
Update: Installing dgvoodoo jumped my fps from 20-ish to 24-ish. I turned everything up to max and went on an airship ride and stayed 29+ the entire time while looking outward, so I'm pretty sure the fps drops only around other characters. Is there anything else I can turn down or off? Shadows, animation frame rate and footsteps are already turned off. Just did a small train of mobs and it didn't lag me at all. It's only other players.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-11-24 16:04:49  
I'm on an AMD RX580 as well, and I can get steady 60 FPS in all but a few congested areas. The problem shouldn't be your GPU hardware.

I'm thinking you probably have a drivers issue. Make sure you wiped your old nvidia drivers completely. Then do a clean install of the Radeon stuff.

Edit: use this uninstall utility, btw.
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2018-11-24 16:22:34  
When you say "wiped your old nvidia drivers completely", is there more to do than just going into Programs and uninstalling everything that has the word "nvidia"?

edit: Will do
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2018-11-24 16:42:28  
What cpu are you using
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2018-11-24 17:00:31  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
What cpu are you using

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By DaneBlood 2018-11-24 17:01:57  
nothing to do with other palyers but thins on might help some other lag

/localsettings blureffect off
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2018-11-24 17:05:13  
That CPU is bottlenecking your RX580 by at least 30%.
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2018-11-24 17:55:48  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
That CPU is bottlenecking your RX580 by at least 30%.

Well thanks. Suppose I should shell out some cash to upgrade the CPU one of these days. I've already upgraded everything else over the last 14 or so years, besides the mother board.

I've done everything everyone said in this thread and there are some noticeable improvements here and there. Now it hovers around 25fps only dips back to 20fps rather than staying there the whole time. I suppose that's good enough. Thanks for the help, everyone.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2018-11-24 18:11:04  
Even a cheaper Ryzen would be fine, shouldn't cost much to find a decent Ryzen+Motherboard bundle, though you might need some DDR4 as well. Problem with bottlenecking is it often doesn't just affect your upper bounds, it will cause the card to act sporadically and inefficiently all around.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-11-24 18:31:59  
If you're still within the return window for your RX580, I'd swap it for a R5 2400G APU and B350 combo.

I've test the chip and mobo, and they definitely run FFXI at 60FPS:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3791764&Description=ryzen%205%202400g%20combo

There's some nice Black Friday deals on DD4 now. 8-16GB of 3000-3200 mhz is what you want.
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By Lakshmi.Lenus 2018-11-24 19:57:47  
Although I don't own a radeon card. I have a Ryzen 3 2200g with an A320 board paired with a 1050 GTX and I can play current fighting games at 60 fps flawlessly on high and stream at the same time. The mb/cpu combo was around 200ish so as a budget gaming build it works fine. But if you're into overclocking and heavy gaming, I'd suggest a 350 board or better since this board doesn't allow cpu OCing. Even at 8gb of ram it still works well haha. But GL
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