Monster Damage Calculations

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Monster Damage Calculations
 Asura.Ivlilla
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2018-03-25 22:42:22  
Do we have any idea how these work? Even just a rough 'maybe this way'? 'cause they definitely don't use the same calculations players do. Or I'm grossly underestimating their stats.
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By Asura.Cair 2018-03-26 00:32:28  
The calculations are the same IIRC. If it helps, Reisenjima HELMs have base stats (STR, VIT, etc) north of 450-500. SE can set the monster's base/WD as they choose as well.
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2018-03-26 00:34:34  
Thank you.
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By clearlyamule 2018-03-26 00:48:05  
There are some addendums though. Like they have pdif floors so even with -99% att they can still wreck you. Also monster still use the old nuke damage values (as do smn spirits btw) so their nukes are actually a little weaker than others all stats being equal
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2018-03-26 10:37:10  
Thank you. I'm trying to get what I recall damage should be like- I am not currently subscribed- using the pDIF page on bg-wiki, but I'm either seriously underestimating monsters' attributes, their combat skills, or there's just something otherwise wrong, because the damage feels too un-random and the range too small.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-03-26 10:55:10  
I believe awhile back SE told us that monsters have a pDiff cap of 4.0. They upgraded it from 2.0 to "make defense more relevant".
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By Asura.Ivlilla 2018-03-26 11:31:37  
Thank you. I was using 3.5.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-03-26 12:20:40  
if you account for randomization that 2 will be 2.1 and the 4 will be 4.2.

Its been that way for a long time.

Monster and player crits work differently as well, unless they changed it between 2013 and 2016 when I wasn't looking.

Monster crits will not exceed that 4.2 from pdif, whereas player damage would.

I haven't really worked with those calculations since 2013 though.

hmm bg wiki has much higher caps for player pdif, and I'm not surprised if that changed when I wasn't looking, but I would not expect monster pdif cap to change
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By clearlyamule 2018-03-26 12:31:23  
They boosted players while ago to be more like bst pets I think they said. But also kept the increases caps due to crit while pets still don't
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