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Max theoretical DPS?
Asura.Chiaia said: » Asura.Frod said: » Garland of Bliss is only -12.5% but as far as i know it will land on anything. Well the WS itself never misses, it could just be that but somewhere down the line it got confused with the def down never resisting. Asura.Frod said: » Well the WS itself never misses, it could just be that but somewhere down the line it got confused with the def down never resisting. Additional effects on all WS's have a separate resist check. So while the WS itself will hit, the additional effect can be resisted. It's the same with the physical WS's, just because they pass their accuracy check and "hit" doesn't mean the additional effect will also hit.
Asura.Byrne said: » If these were both toward me, I still disagree, as did many others, staying at PDIF cap should be one of your first considerations, not a rare luxury that lasts one or two minutes. It is though. I've been in plenty of longer fights and it's very easy to tell when pDiff stopped being capped. RNG's on T4's or melee TC is a good example. We can't render an entire combat element meaningless by waiving our hands as a general assumption. It's the same thing with accuracy, it's not that difficult to cap but it still needs accounted for because I've seen far too many people *** it up because of this same mentality. Just something people need to keep in mind when dealing with a WS that has an attack personality. Asura.Saevel said: » Additional effects on all WS's have a separate resist check. So while the WS itself will hit, the additional effect can be resisted. It's the same with the physical WS's, just because they pass their accuracy check and "hit" doesn't mean the additional effect will also hit. Should be able to just go whack some Ungeweders no? Air Elementals are immune to wind based debuffs, but I think the hybrid elementals actually aren't immune, but should be capable of resisting if it is resistible. Correct me if I'm wrong pls? Would there be a better target or method? Try landing defense down on a colibri, they aren't immune but super resistant to wind. These are things that have been known for over eight years. Go try landing attack down on a crab.
Nyarlko said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Additional effects on all WS's have a separate resist check. So while the WS itself will hit, the additional effect can be resisted. It's the same with the physical WS's, just because they pass their accuracy check and "hit" doesn't mean the additional effect will also hit. Should be able to just go whack some Ungeweders no? Air Elementals are immune to wind based debuffs, but I think the hybrid elementals actually aren't immune, but should be capable of resisting if it is resistible. Correct me if I'm wrong pls? Would there be a better target or method? You are wrong. Happy ? Asura.Byrne said: » It's true we're kind of beating this topic into the ground, but hell, I'm learning things so w/e. Please tell me what you learned so I can be good at FFXI !
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Let my monk people go it was bestowed upon the people of FFXI. You shall not deny the greatness of Howling Fist !
YouTube Video Placeholder This is the max dmg possible. To witness such a thing is to experience greatness:
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Lol basically can use this guide for mental support
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fonewear said: » Asura.Byrne said: » It's true we're kind of beating this topic into the ground, but hell, I'm learning things so w/e. Please tell me what you learned so I can be good at FFXI ! I learn that with the power of friendship any thing is possible or if you have a credit card and on asura its also possible as well.
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: » I learn that with the power of friendship any thing is possible or if you have a credit card and on asura its also possible as well. I just moved to Asura, this whole mercenary thing is new to me. Didnt see much if any mercenary service on Siren. Is RMT the reason why for this? Is asura known to be a gil buying server or something and therefore why lots of people sell their services?
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Asura.Dagget said: » Bismarck.Nickeny said: » I learn that with the power of friendship any thing is possible or if you have a credit card and on asura its also possible as well. I just moved to Asura, this whole mercenary thing is new to me. Didnt see much if any mercenary service on Siren. Is RMT the reason why for this? Is asura known to be a gil buying server or something and therefore why lots of people sell their services?
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I'll post for you on FFXIAH for 1,000,000 gil !
fonewear said: » I'll post for you on FFXIAH for 1,000,000 gil !
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In fact I'll log on your FFXI account and play for you for like 300 M gil.
People Sell services for various reasons, likely somewhere in this order of priority
• People • It could be related to some RMT, but not really always the case • The population is so high, natural gap between high end players • Everyone is competing to catch up, with so many players • People's time is limited. • Making gil is easier than clearing the content yourself (see gain exp) • There's a good bit of gilbuying, too. Its fairly cheap • There's money to be made in buying things (see spoiler) The simple answer is, buying stuff is easier than doing it yourself. You can call it laziness, but there are some instances where going through the trouble yourself isn't worth it, and just shelling out cash is easier (i.e. speed gearing up a second character). Where there is a market, people will buy and sell. With so many people on Asura, everyone is trying to "catch up". They'd rather pay to get geared up and in line than do the content themselves. The culture on Asura is buying and selling, which isn't totally a bad thing (price of HQs drops, lot of stock). It's more about players not wanting to spend the time getting there, and just getting there.
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: » People Sell services for various reasons, likely somewhere in this order of priority • People • It could be related to some RMT, but not really always the case • The population is so high, natural gap between high end players • Everyone is competing to catch up, with so many players • People's time is limited. • Making gil is easier than clearing the content yourself (see gain exp) • There's a good bit of gilbuying, too. Its fairly cheap • There's money to be made in buying things (see spoiler) The simple answer is, buying stuff is easier than doing it yourself. You can call it laziness, but there are some instances where going through the trouble yourself isn't worth it, and just shelling out cash is easier (i.e. speed gearing up a second character). Where there is a market, people will buy and sell. With so many people on Asura, everyone is trying to "catch up". They'd rather pay to get geared up and in line than do the content themselves. The culture on Asura is buying and selling, which isn't totally a bad thing (price of HQs drops, lot of stock). It's more about players not wanting to spend the time getting there, and just getting there.
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fonewear said: » This is the max dmg possible. To witness such a thing is to experience greatness: YouTube Video Placeholder I thought, "Why is that Rumble Crawler getting TP moves off????" But then I remembered that this was before Subtle Blow II: Electric Boogaloo. Lakshmi.Buukki said: » People Sell services for various reasons, likely somewhere in this order of priority • People • It could be related to some RMT, but not really always the case • The population is so high, natural gap between high end players • Everyone is competing to catch up, with so many players • People's time is limited. • Making gil is easier than clearing the content yourself (see gain exp) • There's a good bit of gilbuying, too. Its fairly cheap • There's money to be made in buying things (see spoiler) The simple answer is, buying stuff is easier than doing it yourself. You can call it laziness, but there are some instances where going through the trouble yourself isn't worth it, and just shelling out cash is easier (i.e. speed gearing up a second character). Where there is a market, people will buy and sell. With so many people on Asura, everyone is trying to "catch up". They'd rather pay to get geared up and in line than do the content themselves. The culture on Asura is buying and selling, which isn't totally a bad thing (price of HQs drops, lot of stock). It's more about players not wanting to spend the time getting there, and just getting there. This answer is the max theoretical DPS. Fenrir.Cherrywine said: » fonewear said: » This is the max dmg possible. To witness such a thing is to experience greatness: YouTube Video Placeholder I thought, "Why is that Rumble Crawler getting TP moves off????" But then I remembered that this was before Subtle Blow II: Electric Boogaloo. Lakshmi.Buukki said: » People Sell services for various reasons, likely somewhere in this order of priority • People • It could be related to some RMT, but not really always the case • The population is so high, natural gap between high end players • Everyone is competing to catch up, with so many players • People's time is limited. • Making gil is easier than clearing the content yourself (see gain exp) • There's a good bit of gilbuying, too. Its fairly cheap • There's money to be made in buying things (see spoiler) The simple answer is, buying stuff is easier than doing it yourself. You can call it laziness, but there are some instances where going through the trouble yourself isn't worth it, and just shelling out cash is easier (i.e. speed gearing up a second character). Where there is a market, people will buy and sell. With so many people on Asura, everyone is trying to "catch up". They'd rather pay to get geared up and in line than do the content themselves. The culture on Asura is buying and selling, which isn't totally a bad thing (price of HQs drops, lot of stock). It's more about players not wanting to spend the time getting there, and just getting there. This answer is the max theoretical DPS. Time has value, some people will convert monetary value into someone else's time value. It's not as common on other servers because there isn't the population to support it.
Imagine how a person, who grew up in an isolated village that relied on fishing for sustenance, would feel if they were dropped into the middle of a modern super market.
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Asura.Saevel said: » Time has value, some people will convert monetary value into someone else's time value. It's not as common on other servers because there isn't the population to support it. Imagine how a person, who grew up in an isolated village that relied on fishing for sustenance, would feel if they were dropped into the middle of a modern super market. Asura.Saevel said: » Time has value, some people will convert monetary value into someone else's time value. It's not as common on other servers because there isn't the population to support it. Imagine how a person, who grew up in an isolated village that relied on fishing for sustenance, would feel if they were dropped into the middle of a modern super market. Isolated village of course we are talking about Canada ! fonewear said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Time has value, some people will convert monetary value into someone else's time value. It's not as common on other servers because there isn't the population to support it. Imagine how a person, who grew up in an isolated village that relied on fishing for sustenance, would feel if they were dropped into the middle of a modern super market. Isolated village of course we are talking about Canada ! Oh you mean the Democratic Peoples Republic of Canada? Asura.Saevel said: » Try landing defense down on a colibri, they aren't immune but super resistant to wind. These are things that have been known for over eight years. Go try landing attack down on a crab. fonewear said: » Nyarlko said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Additional effects on all WS's have a separate resist check. So while the WS itself will hit, the additional effect can be resisted. It's the same with the physical WS's, just because they pass their accuracy check and "hit" doesn't mean the additional effect will also hit. Should be able to just go whack some Ungeweders no? Air Elementals are immune to wind based debuffs, but I think the hybrid elementals actually aren't immune, but should be capable of resisting if it is resistible. Correct me if I'm wrong pls? Would there be a better target or method? You are wrong. Happy ?
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Asura.Saevel said: » Asura.Byrne said: » If these were both toward me, I still disagree, as did many others, staying at PDIF cap should be one of your first considerations, not a rare luxury that lasts one or two minutes. It is though. I've been in plenty of longer fights and it's very easy to tell when pDiff stopped being capped. RNG's on T4's or melee TC is a good example. We can't render an entire combat element meaningless by waiving our hands as a general assumption. It's the same thing with accuracy, it's not that difficult to cap but it still needs accounted for because I've seen far too many people *** it up because of this same mentality. Just something people need to keep in mind when dealing with a WS that has an attack personality. On Tumult Curator:  You can't bring up "things that matter" then follow that up with things that there are really no reason to fight except for the challenge alone. As for T4's... Pretty much everyone here unanimously agrees that you are just factually wrong. You again, hand waiving saying "I've seen many people blah blah blah" does not matter to anyone that gives half a *** about the actual truth. Anecdotes are just that. People are bad sometimes, COOL. That in no way affects the possibility of covering basic priorities. Asura.Byrne said: » You can't bring up "things that matter" then follow that up with things that there are really no reason to fight except for the challenge alone. As for T4's... Pretty much everyone here unanimously agrees that you are just factually wrong. You again, hand waiving saying "I've seen many people blah blah blah" does not matter to anyone that gives half a *** about the actual truth. Anecdotes are just that. People are bad sometimes, COOL. That in no way affects the possibility of covering basic priorities. Asura.Byrne said: » You can't bring up "things that matter" then follow that up with things that there are really no reason to fight except for the challenge alone. As for T4's... Pretty much everyone here unanimously agrees that you are just factually wrong. You again, hand waiving saying "I've seen many people blah blah blah" does not matter to anyone that gives half a *** about the actual truth. Anecdotes are just that. People are bad sometimes, COOL. That in no way affects the possibility of covering basic priorities. That's just you doing twisting and stretching stuff My original comment Asura.Saevel said: » Attack is another very important facet of Resolution, it comes with a -15% penalty which can hurt if people aren't paying attention. High level NM's have beyond ridiculous defense, Idris Frailty isn't enough to reach over 4.0 the value of their defense, which is why we stack it with Dia and bolster / BoG. People like to hand waive it because of how hard it is to account for but it's still something that needs to understood Not too long ago someone was getting pissed at why I make long posts detailing out nearly every facet of whats being discussed. People like you are why. And most certainly there is no unanimity, in fact I haven't seen anything to the contrary in this thread. Meaning the only people making a fuss are trolls. You actually ended up agreeing with me when you resorted to using DRG because you had lost sight of my original statement. I never said capped pDiff was impossible outside of Bolster frailty, I said Idris Frailty wasn't sufficient on it's own and that it needed to be stacked. People, like OP and friends, just assumed attack would be automatically capped with just a GEO for an hour of fighting, then discussed using a WS that had an attack penalty among jobs where one has a gigantic attack bonus over the other. So thanks for proving my point, in more ways then one. |
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