Snarl Ninja Nerf

言語: JP EN DE FR
2010-06-21
New Items
users online
フォーラム » FFXI » Jobs » Beast Master » Snarl Ninja Nerf
Snarl Ninja Nerf
 Shiva.Malthar
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Malthar
Posts: 387
By Shiva.Malthar 2017-07-27 11:38:07  
Did anyone else notice that they ninja nerfed snarl? After capping enmity I used snarl, and a few hits (not ws's) later I have hate.
Offline
Posts: 1479
By geigei 2017-07-27 12:10:18  
Nobody play bst so probably not
Offline
Posts: 239
By Brynach 2017-07-27 12:29:58  
[+]
 Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia
Offline
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: Trulusia
Posts: 1118
By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2017-07-27 12:37:14  
Shiva.Malthar said: »
Did anyone else notice that they ninja nerfed snarl? After capping enmity I used snarl, and a few hits (not ws's) later I have hate.

How do you know that you capped enmity? On ilvl content it's quite difficult to do, on non-ilvl content it's trivial.
 Shiva.Malthar
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Malthar
Posts: 387
By Shiva.Malthar 2017-07-27 13:18:35  
My enmity merits are capped and I snarl almost every time after a ws, so by a few ws's the pet should have capped enmity and I should have none, but the behavior persists.
Forum Moderator
Offline
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
user: AnnaMolly
Posts: 25756
By Anna Ruthven 2017-07-27 13:23:43  
Does FFXI not show stuff like this in patch notes? >.>
Offline
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
user: misacat
Posts: 2961
By Nadleeh Sakurai 2017-07-27 13:37:31  
[+]
 Leviathan.Brotherhood
Offline
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: bluecop81
Posts: 733
By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-07-27 14:09:12  
Shiva.Malthar said: »
My enmity merits are capped and I snarl almost every time after a ws, so by a few ws's the pet should have capped enmity and I should have none, but the behavior persists.

Does Snarl put all Enmity off of you and onto pet or it like thf ja and 25% 50% etc? Also with max +enmity merits, you would build it faster and faster. So unless you have Enmity + in gear for your pet and -enmity for yourself, I can see you retaining more hate than you give your pet. Take into account the number of hits if they do enough damage you may get more VE and retain more CE than your pet. Pet hate has been a fickle thing for a long time and takes very little to shed or ignore hate from any pet through Melee hits alone. Both Pup Smn and Bst know this which is why if you melee with pet, you will pull hate more than enough times to make it an issue.
Offline
By clearlyamule 2017-07-27 15:18:40  
Anna Ruthven said: »
Does FFXI not show stuff like this in patch notes? >.>
Yes and the last one showed increase Ridill droprates
Offline
By clearlyamule 2017-07-27 15:21:07  
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Shiva.Malthar said: »
My enmity merits are capped and I snarl almost every time after a ws, so by a few ws's the pet should have capped enmity and I should have none, but the behavior persists.

Does Snarl put all Enmity off of you and onto pet or it like thf ja and 25% 50% etc? Also with max +enmity merits, you would build it faster and faster. So unless you have Enmity + in gear for your pet and -enmity for yourself, I can see you retaining more hate than you give your pet. Take into account the number of hits if they do enough damage you may get more VE and retain more CE than your pet. Pet hate has been a fickle thing for a long time and takes very little to shed or ignore hate from any pet through Melee hits alone. Both Pup Smn and Bst know this which is why if you melee with pet, you will pull hate more than enough times to make it an issue.
It's like 99% or so. But if you are meleeing with your pet can almost guarantee you aren't using a lot of pet dt and face tanking has never been a good way of keeping hate for anyone
 Shiva.Malthar
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Malthar
Posts: 387
By Shiva.Malthar 2017-07-27 15:49:10  
Anna Ruthven said: »
Does FFXI not show stuff like this in patch notes? >.>

At one point they said they were looking at snarl, people complained, then they said nothing else.
 Shiva.Malthar
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Malthar
Posts: 387
By Shiva.Malthar 2017-07-27 15:50:42  
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Shiva.Malthar said: »
My enmity merits are capped and I snarl almost every time after a ws, so by a few ws's the pet should have capped enmity and I should have none, but the behavior persists.

Does Snarl put all Enmity off of you and onto pet or it like thf ja and 25% 50% etc? Also with max +enmity merits, you would build it faster and faster. So unless you have Enmity + in gear for your pet and -enmity for yourself, I can see you retaining more hate than you give your pet. Take into account the number of hits if they do enough damage you may get more VE and retain more CE than your pet. Pet hate has been a fickle thing for a long time and takes very little to shed or ignore hate from any pet through Melee hits alone. Both Pup Smn and Bst know this which is why if you melee with pet, you will pull hate more than enough times to make it an issue.

Snarl is supposed to transfer 100 percent hate to the pet. I shouldn't get attention back after just a few hits.
Log in to post.