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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-08-27 00:43:47  
I doubt that just cause you dislike the kennedy's that you are part of the group who think MJ touched kids.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2009-08-27 00:48:16  
Politics and partisan disagreements aside, I think we should honor this remarkable person for doing remarkable things to make this a better country. You don't have to agree with the manner in which it was done, but at least acknowledge the hard work and dedication and love of country he put his life into. It's tragic it had to come to an end so soon.
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-08-27 00:53:22  
Whether you're right, left or independent you're *** by this man being gone because he benefited all sides despite being very partisan. Veteran Republican Senators openly admit him being a reason why contentious matters were solved and able to be compromised in the Senate.

Aside from that, no one's sweeping the scandal with the woman dying because of him as Democratic voters likely voted him down for Presidency because of it and it's acknowledged even today. That does not make him a murderer, nor does it mean his family or Mary Jo herself is as hateful as the people trying to speak for all involved by being glad he's dead. I can only hope you're treated with as little respect as a result.

I'm surprised as anyone to say this but I mostly agree with Stan and see where he's coming from. Of all the days to just leave politics out of a discussion and appreciate that the man dedicated most of his life to public service. This is about manners and having respect for someone you don't agree with when it's deserved as opposed to stating reasons why no one should mourn him or care that he's gone.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 00:56:29  
Well ***happens they can say murderer all they want until they are in the position of a person being accused of doing something. Until you are MJ or been through something he has been accused of or ted driving and going off bridge and barely or hardly saving him self.. in that thread you said he was drunk? can you please tell me how if you were drunk driving and went off a bridge how you would have enough time to save your *** let alone another person?

So you were there..... so you know he was *** drunk or above the drunk limit.. I can drink 10 freaking corona extra's and drive an auto mobile back and fourth across a bridge and know what I am doing.

I recall there is a limit to how much you are drinking anyway....

how would you like it in his sheos being called murderer?

I am guessing you are only attacking him because he is from the rich wealthy family of "kenndy's" so he would no been charged with manslaughter because he is/was one.

Again I doubt anyone in his situation would be charged with stuff.... why? as I said it's possible it could get reported so late i stated conditions. You also can be in panic and shock because of what happened.

You were not him or in his shoes..... therefore shut up.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-08-27 00:59:12  
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You were not him or in his shoes..... therefore shut up.

I cant take you seriously when this is what you say after everything.
Flame me some more. Since you are from Massachusetts you are right and I'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and wrong.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 01:04:47  
I got emotional, sorry for sounding rude none of my hostility is not pointed towards you. It mostly was the nasty things people were saying. Of course that incident will haunt him but he has been repenting for it his whole life. Besides it happened a long time ago, just see that some one passed away and the good that was done.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-08-27 01:05:39  
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Well ***happens they can saw murderer all they want until they are in the position of a person being accused of doing something. Until you are MJ or been through something he has been accused of or ted driving and going off bridge and barely or hardly saving him self.. in that thread you said he was drunk? can you please tell me how if you were drunk driving and went off a bridge how you would have enough time to save your *** let alone another person?

So you were there..... so you know he was *** drunk or above the drunk limit.. I can drink 10 freaking corona extra's and drive an auto mobile back and fourth across a bridge and know what I am doing.



Ok, first of all, drinking and driving and then going off a bridge and having someone die in ur car, is not only a DWI/DUI, its involuntary manslaughter, last I checked, both are punishable by many a year in prison.

Secondly, you contradict yourself horribly right there, saying how would he save someone, yet saying you can completely drive and manage a vehicle after drinking 10 beers, if you know what you are doing while driving you are more then likely coherent enough to perhaps help the other person slightly. People make mistakes, you shouldn't condemn them on every single one imo, if they make them over and over and over sure do it.

It is sad that a person has died, and no less to a horrible disease such as cancer, whether he was a good man or not, or a good politician or not matters not now, because it all has already happened, and instead of dwelling on the past and what he has done, we should instead look to the future and try to improve upon/fix/repair/continue with what he has done.
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-08-27 01:09:16  
Stanflame said:
I got emotional, sorry for sounding rude none of my hostility is not pointed towards you. It mostly was the nasty things people were saying. Of course that incident will haunt him but he has been repenting for it his whole life. Besides it happened a long time ago, just see that some one passed away and the good that was done.
Well said and lets just leave it here, guys.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2009-08-27 01:12:01  
Reflecting back upon Ted Kennedy's long public service makes one think of how much impact the careers of J.F.K. and Robert Kennedy would have had. While we remember Ted Kennedy, lets not forget that his son Patrick J. Kennedy carries on the flame of public service.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-08-27 01:21:10  
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Reflecting back upon Ted Kennedy's long public service makes one think of how much impact the careers of J.F.K. and Robert Kennedy would have had.

R.F.K. and J.F.K. Already got a bridge and Air port named after them...do they need more impact? D=

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lets not forget that his son Patrick J. Kennedy carries on the flame of public service.

If he does want that seat at least he is a congressman unlike Caroline Kennedy.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 01:27:49  
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Well ***happens they can saw murderer all they want until they are in the position of a person being accused of doing something. Until you are MJ or been through something he has been accused of or ted driving and going off bridge and barely or hardly saving him self.. in that thread you said he was drunk? can you please tell me how if you were drunk driving and went off a bridge how you would have enough time to save your *** let alone another person?

So you were there..... so you know he was *** drunk or above the drunk limit.. I can drink 10 freaking corona extra's and drive an auto mobile back and fourth across a bridge and know what I am doing.



Ok, first of all, drinking and driving and then going off a bridge and having someone die in ur car, is not only a DWI/DUI, its involuntary manslaughter, last I checked, both are punishable by many a year in prison.

Secondly, you contradict yourself horribly right there, saying how would he save someone, yet saying you can completely drive and manage a vehicle after drinking 10 beers, if you know what you are doing while driving you are more then likely coherent enough to perhaps help the other person slightly. People make mistakes, you shouldn't condemn them on every single one imo, if they make them over and over and over sure do it.

It is sad that a person has died, and no less to a horrible disease such as cancer, whether he was a good man or not, or a good politician or not matters not now, because it all has already happened, and instead of dwelling on the past and what he has done, we should instead look to the future and try to improve upon/fix/repair/continue with what he has done.


Well my point is this and I did not contradict my self. I can drink 10 beers and feel Fine and sober.. I bet if they tested my breath i'd be over the limit.

Besides How drunk was he when he drove off the cliff do you know? thats the reason I said what i said. People are picking on him because he is a kenedy.... and people always mess with people who are well known for famous or they are jealous of.

Again retard..

who does not know driving and getting in a accident is grounds for freaking manslaughter. You do know this was in 1969 right?

Do no compare today with something that happened back then it's stupid and makes no sense. Oh Again I doubt he was drunk or that drunk at all.. what I mean is if he went to a party... had a few drinks and was fine and something went wrong. then I can understand...

The fact that it happened is unfortunate and he is not a murderer you keep saying manslaughter this and that to something that happened in 1969-70ish. My advice just like i said earlier I doubt you would be saying this bull ***you are if it was you being called a murderer and what ever you would defend yourself hardcore. Your not in someonoes position so you think you are all high and *** mighty and have innocent and never done ***wrong.

I come from a religious family also... let me stick this out here:

"For those who have not sinned , cast the first stone"
are you that ignorant to state you said this line please tell me? ***happened in 69 if kennedy was drinking oh well he is partly to blame. I am wondering if you ever went to a party and had 2 drinks and had to drive people home.. think you will get in troube? not really this thing that happened to kennedy could have happened to anyone >.>.

If kennedy fell to sleep and this happened what would your repsonse be? with out your manslaughter and the law ***.

Because no matter what you say USA,EU, and the rest of the world does no own ***. when you die you go where ever and i bet you will realize how stupid you were for listening to stupid laws and rules of retards that act like they are above people... when they are no the one in control and really in charge.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-08-27 01:30:17  
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So you have me to blame for that damn socialist we have in the white house. I hope he burns the *** USA to hell.

You always hit yourself at the end.
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-08-27 01:35:38  
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Stanflame said:

So you have me to blame for that damn socialist we have in the white house. I hope he burns the *** USA to hell.

You always hit yourself at the end.
Seriously. Just ..nevermind. lol

Copying from BG since I don't like typing it up again!

City Brights: Zennie Abraham : Mary Jo Kopechne - Ted Kennedy was punished; leave him alone

The opinion on the events of the night when that woman died are subjective since there's no way to know so that segment can be disregarded, but the point being is that he knows damn well he was responsible for her death, and if you think he's a terrible person that deserves to pay for it in death, I'd say to you his death was a long-deserved escape from a life where his family is practically *** cursed. His sister dies 2 weeks before him and his brothers all die prematurely, 2 by cowardly assassinations and he still had the nerve to run for President. Give a guy a *** break and at least show respect for a person who dedicated their life to being a public servant. No one knows if he was drunk at all, it's just assumed. Why would their family, friends or the woman herself let him drive and get into the car with him if this were the case? I agree that it's shocking that he got off for it, but the court wouldn't even have him serve his 2-month sentence for leaving the scene so I can't say much on it.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2009-08-27 01:35:43  
Guess he figures if he just erases it we'll forget how crazy that just made him sound <.<
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 01:38:03  
\O/ I know I do :). esp,remote viewing, Psychic abilities, and prophet is all I am about. I did not mean burn I mean people are scared calling some one a socialist.... people are living in world war 2 or something. OOOOHHH no Obama is the reincarnation of aldoph hitler.... and his wife is the reincarnation of his mistress because we always know.. reincarnated couples after they commit suicide they will always find away to get back to each other reiincarnated!!!!
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 01:40:10  
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Guess he figures if he just erases it we'll forget how crazy that just made him sound <.<


Nah not he reason I erased it.. I am a Psychic/prophet and stated that we would have a black president in 3 years and he may like socialism like hitler's ... no joke
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-08-27 01:42:03  
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Blindphleb said:
Guess he figures if he just erases it we'll forget how crazy that just made him sound <.<


Nah not he reason I erased it.. I am a Psychic/prophet and stated that we would have a black president in 3 years and he may like socialism like hitler's ... no joke

you said 2 years before!
Now I know you are a fake.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2009-08-27 01:44:44  
Good video Caiyuo.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 01:45:40  
Caiyuo said:
Ludoggy said:
Stanflame said:

So you have me to blame for that damn socialist we have in the white house. I hope he burns the *** USA to hell.

You always hit yourself at the end.
Seriously. Just ..nevermind. lol

Copying from BG since I don't like typing it up again!

City Brights: Zennie Abraham : Mary Jo Kopechne - Ted Kennedy was punished; leave him alone

The opinion on the events of the night when that woman died are subjective since there's no way to know so that segment can be disregarded, but the point being is that he knows damn well he was responsible for her death, and if you think he's a terrible person that deserves to pay for it in death, I'd say to you his death was a long-deserved escape from a life where his family is practically *** cursed. His sister dies 2 weeks before him and his brothers all die prematurely, 2 by cowardly assassinations and he still had the nerve to run for President. Give a guy a *** break and at least show respect for a person who dedicated their life to being a public servant. No one knows if he was drunk at all, it's just assumed. Why would their family, friends or the woman herself let him drive and get into the car with him if this were the case? I agree that it's shocking that he got off for it, but the court wouldn't even have him serve his 2-month sentence for leaving the scene so I can't say much on it.


I know he was responsible death.. things were different then. he may not have been drunk ***happens. I know someone who hit someone with a car and it was not his fault. people were hounding him... put him in deep depression and *** :(. was he drunk nope! person should not have been crossing the road when they did. stuff happens... I am just saying he is reponsible for her death but what if he was not drunk :(..? i'd not let someone get in the car with me if i knew they were not sober. it's a reason when i go out I never drink so I am the responsible one. anyway he had drunk at the party and both people were tired ***happens... it was a bad situation also he made a mistake and left and did not report it like he did should have i get it ***happens.

and I salute the guy in the video he reads people like a *** book.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 01:46:27  
Ludoggy said:
Stanflame said:
Blindphleb said:
Guess he figures if he just erases it we'll forget how crazy that just made him sound <.<


Nah not he reason I erased it.. I am a Psychic/prophet and stated that we would have a black president in 3 years and he may like socialism like hitler's ... no joke

you said 2 years before!
Now I know you are a fake.


I made that vision 3 years ago made a mistake :( it would not be three years..
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-08-27 01:58:51  
If you drink and drive and someone dies, your *** goes to jail, I don't care if you are the president of *** Russia, your *** goes to jail I could care less if he was a Kennedy he *** up, he pays the price. You know as much as I do about his BAC so Idk where you going with that, I don't drink, so no I wouldn't get caught drinking and driving,

"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7, is actually what it is from the international standards.

If you drive off a bridge sober- Driving You're Doing it Wrong.

If I drove drunk and someone died I would expect to go to jail for a long long time, and my position would not change, as I did something wrong, and I would have to be punished whether I like it or not.

Stanflame said:

If kennedy fell to sleep and this happened what would your repsonse be? with out your manslaughter and the law ***.


The law is the law, if he was proven to be legally drunk he broke the law, why are you making hypothetical situations about it?

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Oh Again I doubt he was drunk or that drunk at all.. what I mean is if he went to a party... had a few drinks and was fine and something went wrong. then I can understand...


You 'doubt' he was drunk, yet you accuse me of not knowing because i wasn't there?

I said involuntary manslaughter can you read? Did I say murder? No. They are very difference things, Did i say I have never done wrong? No. The fact is if you do wrong you face the consequences. Why are you making excuses for someone else. If I were to drive drunk off a bridge and someone died as a result, id be like "***, I *** up, My *** is going to jail."

And throwing around the word retard is degrading to people who have mental disabilities. You contradict yourself more then you apparently know. And if you don't want to be misunderstood, look at how you type, review it, and put actually thought into it first.

Tl;dr

If he broke the law, he should be punished, that's how it goes, no exceptions, no one is above the law. If he didn't

Rumaha said:


People make mistakes, you shouldn't condemn them on every single one imo, if they make them over and over and over sure do it.



Learn to read.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-08-27 03:14:40  
sorry if it sound like i was contradicting my self I was not. or if I made or you think i made insults like that.. well you see i said retards because way people were acting towards this whole situation.

Oh and I am not at school or college and on a forum with people who i do not know I am not going to use grammar or punctuation..

most of what i said got deleted it is a moo point. I never said he did not get in trouble. I know he is not a murderer. so leave it be.

I posted in here but I deleted what I posted so. I am not typing it again.

I did not mean it in a way to insult mentally disabled people retard had meaning before using it towards people who are and it turned into calling someone stupid. Moron was the term used by doctors to state someone was mentally disabled but people stole that and used as an insult so doctors dropped it and only use the terms and type of defect,mental illness someone has to state what they are or have.
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By Ifrit.Neubian 2009-08-27 07:59:08  
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Oh and I am not at school or college and on a forum with people who i do not know I am not going to use grammar or punctuation..


If you want people to take what you say seriously, regardless of where you are expressing your opinion, type coherent sentences.
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