Charging For Synths.

Since getting 100+3 Clothcraft I recieve alot of /t's asking for synths which I am glad to recieve and help with but eventually I get the dreaded question "How much do you charge and what if it HQ's?" So my question to other crafters is what do you charge? And what is your system on HQ? My current system of w/e you want to tip is yielding.... well nothing.

10% of cost is what i usually tell people. This way if you NQ they pay a little, if you HQ they pay alot, if they can't afford or refuse to pay it then go to the AH and buy them the NQ and keep the HQ.

Just make sure you are up front about the deal before you push OK.

I dont get too many offers... but generally speaking for synths, if the product is a loss NQ I just take whatever theyll give for it if it isn't then whatever seems reasonable/going price or generally any decent offer. Generally speaking alot of them aren't looking for HQs when I ask them what if I HQ generally I get the response I can't affford that ***just put it on AH make a whole lot and make me a NQ

I never request money for a synth. It's not like i'm hard up but if they throw me a little tip which alot of people do.. i wont argue.

Just the way i do it, it's not something i try to capitalize on, the AH is there for that and works pretty well.

For comparison sake, I wouldn't expect nor be upset if I wasn't tipped for making something which in relative terms of skill/item price/demand be a peanut butter and jelly sandwich compared to say a luxury SUV, then I'd certainly want at least some minor compensation, especially if it's HQ.

It's tough because the reason people generally come to you to make something is because they haven't been able to find it on AH, or they're trying to get it cheaper. In either case, it's probably because the materials cost more than what it sells for on AH, so paying to have it crafted isn't going to help much.

I understand when someone is trying to get something cheaper, or in the case where there are simply none on the AH. However I get alot of Dalmatica request for whatever reason, and my worry is when it one day pops out -1 (used up my teir 0 for this decade on a lolPlatino Coat..) I'll have to craft myself a Tshirt saying "I made a dalmatica -1 and all I got was this loesy Jupon". Anyways really sound advice so I appricate the feedback.

Thats why i commonly say 10% of cost... if you pop out a -1 there's no reason YOU shouldn't make bank on it too... you took the time to level your craft and get the guild point items.

No reason in giving free hand outs for your hard work unless you are THAT rich (or morally rich) to screw yourself over like that.

I charge 10% even for friends and they gladly do it.

If you farm your own materials for the most part... 10% for a reliable person to craft for you isn't asking much.

That's a good point actually, considering that, I think it's only fair that if they're not willing to give at least a nice %'age of what the +1 (or -1) is worth, then tell them that if it HQ's you'll be keeping it and making them another NQ.

That really seems more than fair to me, unless you don't care about losing a potential few million gil or they're a REALLY good friend.

So by this example.. if you made a cursed dalmatica -1... you should get at least 1.9 million for it since it appears to go for 19 million on a few servers.

If you only made the NQ you should receive 190,000g~.

It may look steep to you, but honestly instead of BUYING it for 10x's the price, farming your own materials and doing this route is much more pleasing to the eye.

Most top LS's or endgame shells have appropriate crafters though, so if your lucky enough to be in one you could have it made for free depending.

EDIT: This might seem unfair but if they refuse to pay you 1.9 million, or can't afford it... go buy the NQ and give it to him and enjoy your 19 million gil lol. It may seem unethical but it's honestly how it works. That's why you always SPECIFY the terms before hitting the OK button.

Ohhi I've just spent 2 years crafting my *** off and spending millions of gil in guild point items. That effort has just got you a 19 million gil item that you're not willing to even pay 1.9mil for.

Yeah, I think I'd be recrafting or buying them an NQ too.

wut? >.>
To be fair, though, Only time I get my friends to synth me things is when I want signed stuff.

if they want the synth for free they shoulda leveled the craft themselves

10% for rare synth like -1 dal's and -1 togi's? no way. 50% is the least I'd take for synths like that. The rarity, and the time, gil, effort it took to get a skill that high deserves nothing less.... don't like it? Skill it yourself and craft your own stuff. If I was approached to make say.. a cursed togi... the understanding would be "if I HQ, 50% of current value, or I will replace with NQ". I don't NEED someone to furnish materials for me to attempt a HQ. I can do that myself. They're not doing me a favor, I'm doing them a favor. :)

so when i hit 100 alchemy.... how the hell do i make people pay for 10 silent oils instead of 4 ; ;

Except that when you attempt a HQ for yourself, you're spending 400k for materials for an item that sells on AH for 300k (or whatever the actual values are, I just know it's a loss synth), AND you have the risk of losing the materials all together. If you're synthing it for something else, it's a no risk synth (for you) as the other person is paying for the ingredients whether you fail, NQ or HQ.

if someone asks and its a routine item, I'll make it for free. If its a friend, I might consider not charging for an HQ, depending on rarity. Thats just me, but I'm picky usually who I craft for.

I make anyone anything they want for free as long as they have the mats. Then again im only 75 bs ><

50%? And what if you break? Will you replace all the items out of your pocket?

That's way extreme. 1.9 million for a Dalmatica-1 and if your smart enough signing your name on it should be good enough for you.

Why would someone farm/have it made if they didn't want to pay damn near full price after material costs.

I have a few mules

LOL put them in the AUCTION HOUSE, that's how!!

Two days ago someone was shouting in JEUNO Alchemy 90+ so:
ME: I have a 98.6+1 Alchemy mule in Bastok, what do you want?
IDIOT: Can you please HQ Beeswax for me? I give you mats.
ME: Why don't you do it yourself!? It's a level 5 synth.
IDIOT: Ohh.. because I want to HQ it.
ME: Well... why don't you take alchemy to 70+ and enjoy the benefits of HQ instead of wasting other ppl's time for your benefit?
IDIOT: ...

If people want HQ something for them it must be an item they need as armor, weapon, NOT base materials like beeswax that sells 14K a stack in AH. Just imagine me crafting 30 minutes for someone, so they can turn 50,000 worth of behive chips into, 100,000 gil of beeswax. I would Freaking charge them 50% for my time. In anycase... when it come to other materials.. pwrlessgirl will post a couple of words.

That's an exception when you come across people who are trying to profit off your HQ's on low end crap that will take you quite some time to achieve.

50% on a Dalmatica-1 or anything Tier0 is unacceptable lol.

if you're smart enough, you realize wasting 200gp on an item that won't have a signature on it is pretty stupid

I would not charge a member in my LS even if its an HQ.
Not too long ago I did the HQ version of a BLU 73 weapon. Its called Devil Slayer for an ls friend. I explained that even at 100 things break, so as long as we have an understanding, I took their 420,000 Adaman Kilij and HQ it.

Now, if its someone outside the LS depending which craft of the sub jobs required, the price may vary.
For example: HKTK Pop item simply 25k as long they provide materials
I think a 10% charge is fair.

I charge according to the millions I have put into a craft. For example if anyone need and Alchemy or Cooking item the fee is small, if is a SMITH or GOLDMISTH 90+ synth the fee will definetly run in the 100k+ or even 200K for HQ. However if it happens to be a 3+ million HQ version then we really need to have an agreement wether I promise Non HQ or 20% of an HQ, so on and foth. I am not 90+ yet on GS or SMITH I'm just providing an example.

Another thing to consider, if ytou have friends on other crafts 90+ they can do favors for you, at same time i do favors for them. For those instances my fee is -0-

Ha.. i'm a 100 cook can you tell?

I had the right idea i guess >< i look at signed items as a way of advertising your craft skills.

...i forgot lame SE takes signatures off abjuration stuff.

I always charge 0 gil for any synth(s) no matter what character I have to get on to craft it. My group has 100+3 BC, 99+2 WW, ~91+2 Alch, ~90+2 Cooking, 84 Cloth, and 67+1 Leather. If anyone wants anything synthed, all they have to do is find me with a moment or two free. =)

Sometimes I get a nice tip and other times nothing. But, either way... I really don't need the gil at this point anyway with the goals that I want to reach.

The other day I synthed like 30 pieces of furniture and 5 of the Hickory/whatever the HQ is. I went 29-1 on the furnishings for success/fail. And then I went 3 HQ, 1 break, 1 NQ for the shields. All w/o support out in Buburimu. And the person I was synthing for gave me a HQ shield for the effort. =)

YOU ARE TBEST =^-^=

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lol Well... I just don't think it's really right to 'charge' for it tbh. But, usually people will offer a donation. =)
I might consider a fee if I was hurting for gil or trying to get a relic... But, I'm just not that hardcore. =)

5% AH value for NQ, unless it's worth next to nothing or for a friend.

For HQ things get complicated:
(Value of HQ item - cost of materials)/2

That's how much you owe me on the spot or you never see your item. I will sell it myself, take that amount and send you your half the profit+the cost of your mats.

Of course I let people know this ahead of time now to avoid conflict. If they don't like the terms they can find someone else or level the damn craft themselves.

Wow, that seems like the *** thing to do

Wow, and your a cook which means like no one really goes to you for synthesis anyways..

Charging someone 10% to make something because they are too lazy to level a craft and make it themselves?

That makes you an ***?

k?