So I Herd BLU/THF Was Gewd?

In a zerg situation landing a hit behind the mob from behind might miss often with everyone bouncing hate. As for me I practically tank on blue in lower man situations. That's why its not a popular choice for endgame events anymore unless there's still something that's kited.

sataca eflux benthic was doing 3k+ with my very meh blu against the t4 peiste in morimar

blu/thf is obviously not gonna be good for a zerg but some of these delve fights that arent totally figured out yet go well beyond the rage timer, and as long as you have a capable pld or 2 blu/thf works fairly well for dding

Sneak attack forces an auto-crit, so the fact that heavy strike is already an auto-crit is completely meaningless, and, in fact, makes it somewhat pointless to even consider using it. From what I've gathered, vanity dive or benthic are your best options. I would probably recommend zerging the mobs down on a different job, and then switching over to BLU/THF if they rage.

Heavy strike already auto crits, but has a lower FTP than benthic, it's because it auto crits that the damage is usually a bit higher without SA/TA.

If you use benthic/vanity dive, you get the 100% accuracy, higher base damage and the crit (that normally can't occur).

It'd be like a war using a crit ws during MS.

Edit: Ninja'd ^^.

never saw the benthic add effect land on delve mobs, I've seen it stick on colonization reive ones though

No >_>

Why do you think we used to use SA+Cannonball/Vcleave/etc? The DEX/AGI modifier is what is nerfed as s sub for SA/TA.

Benthic Typhoon is the strongest Sneak Attack-compliant spell available if you don't need the attack boost of Vanity Dive/Cannonball. Some of these things you do and some you don't.

I assumed that; however, considering that heavy strike does auto-crit, you're not increasing your damage whatsoever. You're simply forcing it to hit. If you're using SA on BLU, you want to use the most powerful spells in terms of modifier(s) and http://fTP. That way you're hitting the mob 100% and damaging it by the greatest amount per cast.

Benthic typhoon is great against most of these NMs. Never thought id be subbing thief again though lol

Just how much damage can you get out of it?

I used last night on the gnat NM and did around 2 to 5k. Avg around 2300.

Think the highest Vanity Dive i witnessed was 5,700, that was on the Gnat NM as well.

Mmmmm, /THF is just fun sometimes.

I went BLU/SCH and then BLU/WAR on Chepuli NM. I was 3rd highest on the total damage list, my BLU/WAR friend was 4th highest, had a BLU/THF and BLU/RDm as well, don't know how they did. Highest dmg was DRK/SAM (go figure), 5th highest was a THF/NIN friend of mine using mandau.

I was tempted to /THF, but no one in party knew much about the NM except you don't want to spam weapon skills due to it gaining invincible after a ws lands. I can see how /THF would be good to improve acc on heavy strike, it landed about 40% of the time, used amorphic, quarda, and quad. cont. more often, only used hs when low on mp.

With all that said, given how long the fight lasted (20min on first, 26min on 2nd both full pt wipe), I'd prefer /RDM or /SCH to have a higher mp pool and be able to replenish mp without needing bc set.

How was accuracy outside of Heavy? And how was the damage from your other spells? Curious about that.

Anywho, As stated in this thread, avoid Heavy Strike with /THF, or specifically SA... use Vanity Dive or Benthic Typhoon.

Also, the trick to Chapuli is no WS, kinda funny.

dmg was a bit weak, nothing broke 1k, most hit for 900ish, had one amorphic hit for 500. I never missed any other spell besides hs that I could see.

Edit: forgot to mention, my skill is 460 with merits and gear.

all this talk and not a single gearset posted?


I'll put something up after i get some gear together

why post a gearset when there is a perfectly made blu guide stickied in this section.

i don't believe it had a /thf set i'll double check

I didn't see one on the forums. I would hope a /thf set differs more than 1-2 pieces from the other sets posted, if not it'd be a copy/paste situation.

I'm going to work on a mag acc set for SoA areas. Some people had put down the mag acc mp+100 sword before, I wonder if SoA runs would benefit from it considering the level difference.

believe it does since you'd have crit damage pieces like athos body, legs and brave grip

Grip? sounds like you're planning to use a staff which would be counterproductive considering BLU has crap for staff skills, which would make our physical spells have even worse acc.

Edit: unless you're going to use nothing but magical based spells and none of the physical related spells.

He means using staff/grip for SA spells (although I don't think it would be worth it at 99 like it sometimes was at 75).

Yup, being able to set dual wield now makes staff+grip inferior even with the addition of chatoyant.