Resolution Vs Upheaval With New AH Weapons

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Resolution vs Upheaval with New AH Weapons
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By bcider 2013-04-20 21:38:32  
The new 99 GS Hatzoaar Sword looks like a very good option for Warrior considering there weren't many Gswords available to them.

I plan to make an Ukon, its just going to take awhile due to my limited time. I've heard Upheaval sucks by some people and was wondering if I should just go with the new Gsword and use Resolution until I get an Ukon.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-04-20 21:45:32  
This might help you, it's a bunch of DPS calculators created by Fenrir.Motenten. You might have to manually add the new weapon in though.
 
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2013-04-20 22:22:59  
I have a buddy with +120vit in gear for Upheaval... Nope, no sucking there.
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By Ragnarok.Zirael 2013-04-20 22:48:07  
I've been trying to work out just that today, and this is what I came up with:
Mithra WAR/SAM, enemy Chapouli lv102, food Yellow Curry bun +1
External buffs: Haste only, Dia II on enemy.

TP set for both weapons:
Grip Pole Grip
Ammo Ravager
Head Phorcys
Neck Portus
Earring Brutal
Earring Ravager
Body Karieyh
Hands Ravager +2
Ring Rajas
Ring Tyrant
Back Atheling
Waist Phasmida
Legs Ravager +2
Feet Ravager +2

Resolution Damage: 4068, DPS: 295,798
Weapon Hatzoaar Sword +1
Grip Pole Grip
Ammo Ravager
Head Twilight
Neck Gorget
Earring Brutal
Earring Moonshade AttTP
Body Karieyh
Hands Phorcys
Ring Rajas
Ring Spiral
Back Atheling
Waist Ele.Belt
Legs Karieyj
Feet Karieyh

Resolution Damage: 4044, DPS: 284,523
Weapon Hatzoaar Sword
Grip Pole Grip
Ammo Ravager
Head Twilight
Neck Gorget
Earring Brutal
Earring Moonshade AttTP
Body Karieyh
Hands Phorcys
Ring Rajas
Ring Spiral
Back Atheling
Waist Ele.Belt
Legs Karieyj
Feet Karieyh

Upheaval Damage:3514, DPS: 270,677
Weapon Nohkux Axe +1
Grip Pole Grip
Ammo Ravager
Head Twilight
Neck Gorget
Earring Brutal
Earring Moonshade AttTP
Body Twilight
Hands Phorcys
Ring Rajas
Ring Spiral
Back Atheling
Waist Ele.Belt
Legs Karieyj
Feet Karieyh

Upheaval Damage:3514, DPS: 261,238
Weapon Nohkux Axe
Grip Pole Grip
Ammo Ravager
Head Twilight
Neck Gorget
Earring Brutal
Earring Moonshade AttTP
Body Twilight
Hands Phorcys
Ring Rajas
Ring Spiral
Back Atheling
Waist Ele.Belt
Legs Karieyj
Feet Karieyh

Upheaval Damage:3393, DPS: 261,763
Ukonvasara (90)
Pole Grip
Ravager
Twilight
Gorget
Brutal
Moonshade AttTP
Twilight
Phorcys
Rajas
Spiral
Atheling
Ele.Belt
Karieyh
Karieyh

Ukko's Fury Damage:2962, DPS:240,312
Weapon Ukonvasara (90)
Grip Pole Grip
Ammo Ravager
Head Ravager +2
Neck Gorget
Earring Brutal
Earring Moonshade AttTP
Body Phorcys
Hands Phorcys
Ring Rajas
Ring Spiral
Back Atheling
Waist Windbuffet
Legs Karieyh
Feet Ravager +2


Ignored Legion, Valkyrie and Ares+1 gear for this comparison. Someone will come and offer more optimized gearsets, but I think what I came up with is fairly reasonable. Hope this helps.
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By bcider 2013-04-20 22:49:57  
Okay, well maybe I heard Upheaval sucked from people who have Rags and are close minded haha?

I'd be more than willing to give Upheaval a chance with the new AH Nohkux Axe if it is viable.
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By Ragnarok.Zirael 2013-04-20 23:02:32  
If my numbers don't lie, you'll be better off with either NQ AH weapon than lv90 Ukon when fighting Adoulin enemies (no level correction). Even Jingang GS + Resolution pulls ahead.
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By Asura.Redshift 2013-04-21 00:00:57  
Are you sure you included Ukko's AM?... No way Upheaval beats Ukko's
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-04-23 02:59:10  
Depends on target and buffs. Reso just destroys everything if your target has low defense or your attack is really buffed.
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By Leviathan.Egonn 2013-04-26 09:12:23  
Ragnarok.Zirael said: »
If my numbers don't lie, you'll be better off with either NQ AH weapon than lv90 Ukon when fighting Adoulin enemies (no level correction). Even Jingang GS + Resolution pulls ahead.


I have a 99 ukon and a flippin Hatzoaar war spamming resolution was almost on par with me in Reives. No idea how. Something is broke about the 99 relic/emps. I hear they're going to fix this issue soon though?
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By Voren 2013-04-26 09:59:25  
Would a 99Bravura do any better considering Upheaval is a multihit ws and bravura has +40acc on it?

on a side note: Get r/e/m.....use merit ws 99% of the time >.> thanks SE
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-04-26 10:27:38  
Voren said: »
Would a 99Bravura do any better considering Upheaval is a multihit ws and bravura has +40acc on it?

on a side note: Get r/e/m.....use merit ws 99% of the time >.> thanks SE

I haven't noticed any accuracy issues though I'm usually on BLU for those events. Bravura is the weaker weapon for WAR in pure DPS but more then makes up for it in defense value. It's what you use when you want to inflict pain while laughing as the enemy feebly tries to kill you, and fails.
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By lhova 2013-04-29 18:00:33  
It's really hard for me to believe that Upheaval would dominate a UF War.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2013-04-29 19:44:41  
lhova said: »
It's really hard for me to believe that Upheaval would dominate a UF War.

http://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Razorfury

DMG:259 Delay:504 STR+7 VIT+7 Accuracy+40 Attack+30
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By macsdf1 2013-05-02 04:37:27  
I got the 231 dmg gaxe, but upheaval numbers are pretty meh. My vit pretty low though sadly, far cry from the 220 str I use to have.
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By bcider 2013-05-02 16:59:56  
Well looks like greatsword warrior is effectively dead now with ragnorok not being upgradeable.
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