Hello, back when I started FFXI, I loved only 2 jobs, RDM and WHM. RDM I was the haster, the debuffer, the refresher, it was a great time. Now however.. as I came back to FFXI, All this level 99 stuff.. Aby, Voidwatch. It seems RDM has no purpose? Hell, I dont even know what role it IS anymore since it seems SCH has everything a RDM could do too. Then when I look at gear wise, its like RDM is trying to be a BLM more?
I mean granted atm I have my rdm geared for MAB which helps for the elm ws stuff if I use a sword. Only other thing I have since my WHM and BLM had the FC gear, just added to the rdm. So In a way, speedier spells for proccing.
So aside from soloing use for storyline missions and so. What role is a RDM for in the endgame world? If you arent an Almace RDM, is there even a purpose to trying to melee? Just noticing that it seems "debuffing" isnt something really used much now on mobs.. since yea.. not like they live long, even aby nms.
So any advice would be great. Would love to learn what roles a rdm can do in the endgame world or if it really is just something idle, generic on the side to be a switch hitter for whm and blm roles as an "extra mage" slot.
Looking To See What Role Is A RDM Now?
Looking to see what role is a RDM now?
RDM is good for Odin v2 for refresh 2. That's about it.
RDM is worthless, about the only thing they do anymore is cast phalanx on RMT fell cleavers. They do have 1 or 2 vw proc spells that no other job has so with VERY occasionally be taken to the harder fights.
The only other thing they laughably try to do is lolmelee rdm, hell SE even thought it would be a good idea to give them Temper instead of something useful like Cure V.
The only other thing they laughably try to do is lolmelee rdm, hell SE even thought it would be a good idea to give them Temper instead of something useful like Cure V.
Carbuncle.Chibiclone said: »
They do have 1 or 2 vw proc spells
No longer true.
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Bigsmokey said: »
RDM is good for Odin v2 for refresh 2. That's about it.
We've had good luck with rdm in salvage 2, not needing ja's or subjob. 6/tick refresh with nothing but spell casting and reasonable mp/hp. Really any situation where you have very few tools for quickly containing mp. And when dd's have little or no gear or hate generation, a mage that can take a few hits us handy as hell.
Rdm can still change roles in a party with far less sacrifice than sch. It just doesn't get embrava.
Chainspell stun for ADL maybe?
I would say Legion, but I think most people use Sch/blm for stuns there...
I would say Legion, but I think most people use Sch/blm for stuns there...
Requiescat is lvl96, so sometime since 99 cap. Not many jobs, or even rdm's could do that, anyway. Its a hell of am achievement, but the thread is about party play, not super amazing lolwhy solo's.
Don't be hatin! rdm solo can be endgame for your +2 upgrades and stuff. well anyways I would constantly get asked to come rdm in voidwatch despite the empy/relic jobs i had available. Guess u can be proc *** for now :P
Making cups of tea and making sure dinner is ready for when the LS gets home.
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Bahamut.Zorander said: »
When was that video taken...
That guy always sounded so damn pompous, couldn't stand reading his posts.
Sylph.Mystaria said: »
The mechanics of the game changed. The developers made it very clear that WHM and BLM had their roll as top healer and nuker, respectively. They threw the scraps to RDM and SCH.
RDM is still useful for Dia3 in certain strategies, but that's about it. Stun-whoring is pretty much SCH/BLM only. SCH with af2+2 feet, alacrity and Apajamas2 staff can pretty much stun lock(reduce the recast of Stun very low).
Slow2/para2: well most EG content doesn't require them because at the moment we just PD/Embrava everything to death.
EDIT: After the Embrava nerf RDM might have more utility. For stuff like NNI/Meebles however, rdm lacks Regen5 is one major issue.
It really depends on who is open to letting you use your Red Mage. I use Red Mage still for events such as Voidwatch, Meeble Burrows, Abyssea, Salvage, Einherjar, Limbus... However I've yet to use it for higher end events like ADL and Legion. That being said, I do not get into these events because of the job, but because of the gear and skill associated with my Red Mage. The fact that I put in the effort to multitask (Cure cross-alliance, enfeeble, buff, proc'ing, and contributing a tiny sliver of DD'ing) is probably the only saving grace that lets the few groups that know my Red Mage let me come Red Mage.
tl;dr - Unless your Red Mage is geared impressively, expect a large amount of rejection.
tl;dr - Unless your Red Mage is geared impressively, expect a large amount of rejection.
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Bahamut.Zorander said: »
When was that video taken...
Never came across as pompus to me, informative and anelitical maybe. I would expect someone who goes out and solo's Azdaja without cruor/atma or even windower for fun to be a little cocky, lol.
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Why would you expect him to be cocky? Sorry, but that is not a huge deal that someone can have an ego over something small like that lol. I'm also guessing you're the one that told him so he could send his lengthy PM. It's my opinion bro.
Well RDM is ok to do old stuff missions/etc solo especially i was found RDM is really great in WotG , solo/lowman group Abyssea (really good for seals NM's RDM/NIN cause you have good amount of yellow procs)
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Why would you expect him to be cocky? Sorry, but that is not a huge deal that someone can have an ego over something small like that lol. I'm also guessing you're the one that told him so he could send his lengthy PM. It's my opinion bro.
I'm not implying you do, just drawing a comparison.
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Probably the largest reason for the adjustment to Healing Magic skill's effect on Cure potency was to buff Cure IV to Cure V level without actually giving other jobs Cure V so WHM wouldn't cry.
My opinion at least, but I think it's quite a possible one.
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Valefor.Esdain said: »
Probably the largest reason for the adjustment to Healing Magic skill's effect on Cure potency was to buff Cure IV to Cure V level without actually giving other jobs Cure V so WHM wouldn't cry.
My opinion at least, but I think it's quite a possible one.
For real though, RDM never really needed it, especially since now RDM can easily cram on Cure Potency to come off as a competent healer of sorts.
RDM is used for soloing Urteils.
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Why would you expect him to be cocky? Sorry, but that is not a huge deal that someone can have an ego over something small like that lol. I'm also guessing you're the one that told him so he could send his lengthy PM. It's my opinion bro.
Lol, post on a public forum, surprised when people see it....
Choosing spells out of your spell list so that spellcast can change all your gear for you on a 75 nm is a far cry from vanilla macro's on stuff that's designed for huge buffs and 3k hp.
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I also thought the crying for cure 5 would have ended by now.
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