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Non-Thokcha Skill up Synths
 Sylph.Terrorized
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By Sylph.Terrorized 2012-04-03 09:04:39  
Post your findings:

Smithing (102) Goldsmithing (60)
Materials
Fire Crystal
Leather Gloves x2
Adaman Sheet
Darksteel Sheet
Gold Ingot
Vial Of Mercury
Results HQ
Adaman Gauntlets
Gem Gauntlets

Smithing (103) Goldsmithing (60)
Materials
Fire Crystal
Darksteel Sheet
Adaman Sheet x2
Gold Ingot
Square Of Black Tiger Leather x2
Vial Of Mercury
Total Cost
Results HQ
Adaman Cuirass
Gem Cuirass

Sorry i fail @ copy paste. But these are my only findings so far. Hopefully some of those many ??? Smithing level items are 101+ and somebody will be kind enough to post some that they found to skill off of.
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By Leviathan.Alas 2012-04-05 00:19:51  
Checked with Romero at guild and looked at all available Veteran recipes. Couple potential skillup recipes not involving new mats found in the list of ??? Level ones. These have not been tested by me or to my knowledge anyone, so proceed at your own risk.

Winged Plaque (Level ???)
Fire Crystal
2x Steel Sheet
2x Blessed Mythril Sheet
Orichalcum Sheet
Platinum Sheet
Sapphire
Scintillant Ingot

Kagiroi (Level ???)
Fire Crystal
Butachi
Inferno Core

The Kagiroi seems interesting because it needs a level 100 synth item to make (Butachi), and a 40k gp KI to make the inferno core. Seems promising, but cost wise it's actually more than the Adaman Gauntlets/Cuirass route due to needing essentially 3 Adaman Ingots to make from scratch. If the level is 104 or higher, this might be a good synth, but 104+ is really asking a lot.

Also, when I said that Romero didn't list these in his Veteran recipe list, there were some interesting inclusions (i.e. the following are level 100 OR LOWER) on that list that should be noted for people looking to skillup on new mats too:
Iga Shuriken
Thokcha Ingot (no surprise here)
Ghorkali Kukri (also no surprise)
Aisa
Etourdissante
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2012-04-30 11:32:25  
it has come to my attention recently while skilling up smithing ( currently 97 :-/ ) my friends wanted me to try to T1 a shadow breastplate but i heard you can skill up past 100 with it so i was curious about that synth. here is what wiki says about it:
Smithing (100), Goldsmithing (?), Leathercraft (?)
Yield: Cursed Breastplate
HQ 1: Cursed Breastplate -1
Fire Crystal
2 x Orichalcum Sheet
2 x Cerberus Leather
2 x Dark Adaman Sheet
1 x Scintillant Ingot
1 x Rubber Harness

im currently interested in smithing and also new subs 70 does it break a new Tier on hq taking GS LC and CC to 70 on items like hauberk -1 and breastplate -1 or is 60 good enough
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By Valefor.Bahloo 2012-06-10 12:59:49  
I made 12 cursed sabatons today at 100 smithing, got 4 0.1 skillups.

So they are at least 101 if not higher.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Cursed_Sabatons

Not the most optimal skillup item but it does qualify if you have the ichor.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-06-10 13:07:25  
New update inc. save your ichor.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2012-06-11 01:27:22  
Bahamut.Colonelace said: »
im currently interested in smithing and also new subs 70 does it break a new Tier on hq taking GS LC and CC to 70 on items like hauberk -1 and breastplate -1 or is 60 good enough

Cursed Hauberk -1 and Cursed Breastplate -1 are both T1 synths without taking your subcrafts to 70. The smithy torque is needed for the breastplate though. Not sure if the subcraft levels were ever determined, but wear your goldsmithing glasses and tanner's mitts as a precaution.
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By Ragnarok.Loughry 2012-06-11 01:35:27  

EDIT(12/5/12): Changed the actual levels for Hexed Sune-ate and Hexed Somen.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-27 13:56:49  
Ragnarok.Loughry said: »


Thanks for that!

110 Smithing is my next project, not looking forward to it at all.
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-06-27 16:15:42  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Bahamut.Colonelace said: »
im currently interested in smithing and also new subs 70 does it break a new Tier on hq taking GS LC and CC to 70 on items like hauberk -1 and breastplate -1 or is 60 good enough

Cursed Hauberk -1 and Cursed Breastplate -1 are both T1 synths without taking your subcrafts to 70. The smithy torque is needed for the breastplate though. Not sure if the subcraft levels were ever determined, but wear your goldsmithing glasses and tanner's mitts as a precaution.
How high would the subcrafts need to be to T1?
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2012-06-27 17:15:22  
For the Cursed Hauberk -1 I use my Goldsmithing glasses and Tanners gloves for 60+1 each, no advanced support needed. For the Cursed Breastplate -1, same thing, but you need Advanced Smithing.

Maybe another blacksmith can give some input here, but I don't believe the breastplate to be 104. The screenshot on AH.com shows someone going 2/4 on it, and I went 1/3 on it, it could be crazy luck though. Does anyone have confirmation that it is 104?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-28 09:50:21  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
For the Cursed Hauberk -1 I use my Goldsmithing glasses and Tanners gloves for 60+1 each, no advanced support needed. For the Cursed Breastplate -1, same thing, but you need Advanced Smithing.

Maybe another blacksmith can give some input here, but I don't believe the breastplate to be 104. The screenshot on AH.com shows someone going 2/4 on it, and I went 1/3 on it, it could be crazy luck though. Does anyone have confirmation that it is 104?


Its confirmed 104 people are skilling up on it up to 104.

It does get HQed often however.
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By Cerberus.Reiden 2012-09-29 09:03:11  
any new findings on skilling up to 110?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-09-29 09:23:19  
Nope

100-104 is pretty easy.

After that its all pretty much worthless 1mil+ per attempt synths.

I'm pretty content at 104 until something changes.
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2012-09-29 09:36:59  
ill take mine up to 105 just cus wootz amood isnt so bad tbh other then that... yea 110 dont look apealing for what smithing gets out of it
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By Ragnarok.Loughry 2012-12-06 03:54:20  
Ragnarok.Loughry said: »

I am making an edit 5 months after my original post after finding out I had posted incorrect levels for two synths.

The following are the correct levels:

Hexed Sune-ate (106) - I previously marked this at 107.
Hexed Somen (107) - I previously marked this at 108.

I've recently hit 107 smithing and was kind of shocked at how I could have messed these up in the first place. Anyways, wanted to fix this in case anyone ever came and checked these.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-12-07 03:20:07  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Cursed Hauberk -1 and Cursed Breastplate -1 are both T1 synths without taking your subcrafts to 70. The smithy torque is needed for the breastplate though. Not sure if the subcraft levels were ever determined, but wear your goldsmithing glasses and tanner's mitts as a precaution.
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
For the Cursed Hauberk -1 I use my Goldsmithing glasses and Tanners gloves for 60+1 each, no advanced support needed. For the Cursed Breastplate -1, same thing, but you need Advanced Smithing.

Are you certain about both their subcrafts being T1able at 60+1, or is this based on a couple lucky HQ's, since you did question the Breastplate actually being 104.

Haub seems to be 96/48/30 according to a JP site, but I cant find anything concrete pertinent to Breastplates subcaps.


http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cursed_Breastplate&direction=next&oldid=1001952
Someone claims to have gotten a +0.1 on Cursed BP at lvl 55 leathercraft, so you're not T1ing it at 60+1 leather.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2012-12-07 10:05:03  
Taint confirmed it being 104 smithing. From another blacksmith, I was told it's not even T1-able with 70 subcrafts, so I don't know anymore.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos 2012-12-07 10:37:20  
Albeit old, someone claimed skill up on cursed hauberk at 58 clothcraft.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3527

This means that clothcraft is at least 59. Can anyone confirm whether or not you need more than 70 cloth and gold for t1 on the c.hauberk? The ah page for it has conflicting information. Need to know whether or not to get the goldsmithing specs before attempting.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-12-07 14:06:41  
Maybe he meant 48 cloth? its a 7-8 year old post, so its hard to verify.
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By Quil 2012-12-07 19:39:08  
7/49 Cursed breastplate -1 with 104+11 smithing 71 leather 71 gold if that hlps anyone with anything just thought id throw it out there
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2012-12-09 08:27:02  
Friend of mine said they went 2/22 on Cursed Hauberks at 70 cloth and 62 gold.


I really wish SE would let you directly manipulate craft skills on test server :x
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By Quil 2012-12-09 20:44:15  
went 2/22 last night again on cursed breastplate -1 if it hlps anyone
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By Fenrir.Kut 2012-12-09 21:30:00  
A friend of mine has claimed that a friend of ours got a cloth skill up in the 59s way back in the day.
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By Cerberus.Reiden 2013-01-01 13:14:05  
i'm going to unlock my CC to see if anything happens
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