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So i have been messing with some spreadsheets and everything i put in keeps showing kamome as best off hand outside off abyssa. Everyone keeps saying the fire one is best but i am confused now. I am talking about main handing EMP and RELIC. >.<
TP Set 1
Slot Gear Skill Str Dex Agi Att Acc DA TA QA DW C.Rate C.Dmg Haste Regain Store TP Weapon Kannagi (85) 0 0 0 10 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Weapon Kamome 0 0 0 0 8 8 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 10% 0 0 0 Ranged 0 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Ammo Qirmiz 0 0 0 0 3 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0 0 0 Head Iga +2 0 0 10 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 61 0 0 Neck Rancor Max 0 0 0 0 0 6 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0 0 0 Earring Brutal 0 0 0 0 0 0 5% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 1 Earring Suppanomimi 0 0 0 2 0 0 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Body Iga +2 0 12 12 0 17 17 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0 0 0 Hands Koga +2 0 13 0 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 40 0 0 Ring Rajas 0 5 5 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 5 Ring Epona 0 0 0 0 0 0 3% 3% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Back Atheling 0 0 0 0 20 0 3% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Waist Twilight 0 0 0 0 0 0 2% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 71 0 0 Legs Koga +2 0 0 0 6 0 0 0% 0% 0% 7% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Feet Iga +2 0 5 5 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 40 0 0 Set Bonus Total 0 35 32 18 48 31 13% 3% 0% 17% 10% 15% 21% 0 6 WS Set 1 Slot Gear Skill Str Dex Agi Att Acc DA TA QA DW C.Rate C.Dmg WSDmg CTP TP Bonus Store TP Weapon Kannagi (85) 0 0 0 10 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Weapon Kamome 0 0 0 0 8 8 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 10% 0% 0% 0 0 Ranged 0 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Ammo Qirmiz 0 0 0 0 3 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0 0 Head Ocelomeh +1 0 0 13 13 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Neck Hope 7 0 0 5 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Earring Brutal 0 0 0 0 0 0 5% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 1 Earring TP bonus 0 0 0 0 4 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Body Iga +2 0 12 12 0 17 17 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Hands Seiryu CR 0 0 0 15 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 3% 0% 0% 0% 0 5 Ring Rajas 0 5 5 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 5 Ring Stormsoul 0 0 0 7 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Back Rancor Max 0 0 0 0 17 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Waist Cuchulain 0 0 6 0 10 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Legs Byakko CD 0 0 15 6 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 4% 0% 0% 0 6 Feet Athos 0 0 10 10 0 5 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Set Bonus Total 7 17 61 66 59 30 5% 0% 0% 0% 13% 19% 0% 0% 0 17 WS Dmg: 1363 Set DPS: 177.038 TP Set 2
Slot Gear Skill Str Dex Agi Att Acc DA TA QA DW C.Rate C.Dmg Haste Regain Store TP Weapon Kannagi (85) 0 0 0 10 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Weapon Sekka +3 (fire) 0 10 0 0 20 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Ranged 0 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Ammo Qirmiz 0 0 0 0 3 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0 0 0 Head Iga +2 0 0 10 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 61 0 0 Neck Rancor Max 0 0 0 0 0 6 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0 0 0 Earring Brutal 0 0 0 0 0 0 5% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 1 Earring Suppanomimi 0 0 0 2 0 0 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Body Iga +2 0 12 12 0 17 17 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0 0 0 Hands Koga +2 0 13 0 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 40 0 0 Ring Rajas 0 5 5 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 5 Ring Epona 0 0 0 0 0 0 3% 3% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Back Atheling 0 0 0 0 20 0 3% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Waist Twilight 0 0 0 0 0 0 2% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 71 0 0 Legs Koga +2 0 0 0 6 0 0 0% 0% 0% 7% 0% 0% 0 0 0 Feet Iga +2 0 5 5 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 40 0 0 Set Bonus Total 0 45 32 18 60 23 13% 3% 0% 17% 10% 5% 21% 0 6 WS Set 2 Slot Gear Skill Str Dex Agi Att Acc DA TA QA DW C.Rate C.Dmg WSDmg CTP TP Bonus Store TP Weapon Kannagi (85) 0 0 0 10 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Weapon Sekka +3 (fire) 0 10 0 0 20 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Ranged 0 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Ammo Qirmiz 0 0 0 0 3 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0 0 Head Ocelomeh +1 0 0 13 13 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Neck Hope 7 0 0 5 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Earring Brutal 0 0 0 0 0 0 5% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 1 Earring TP bonus 0 0 0 0 4 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Body Iga +2 0 12 12 0 17 17 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Hands Seiryu CR 0 0 0 15 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 3% 0% 0% 0% 0 5 Ring Rajas 0 5 5 0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 5 Ring Stormsoul 0 0 0 7 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Back Rancor Max 0 0 0 0 17 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 5% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Waist Cuchulain 0 0 6 0 10 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Legs Byakko CD 0 0 15 6 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 4% 0% 0% 0 6 Feet Athos 0 0 10 10 0 5 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0 0 Set Bonus Total 7 27 61 66 71 22 5% 0% 0% 0% 13% 9% 0% 0% 0 17 1354 Set DPS:171.971 cant figure out any way to put my info up other then that. This is just random target info that i was using. FIgured it would be a good Lv mob for some Numbers.
Target Pil Level 110 pDif Correction 0.55 Defense 560 Def Down Tier 2 5% def down per tier Final Def 504 Tier 1 = Dia Evasion 470 Tier 2 = Dia II Vit 115 Tier 3 = Dia III Agi 110 Tier 4 = Angon etc Why Iga over Nin body in your tp set?
Shiva.Galbir said: » Why Iga over Nin body in your tp set? Edit: Kannagi/Kamome seems like it would win inside Abyssea because of the crit damage +10% to both hands and the super high crit rate. Outside, it would be STR katana by a long stretch. If you copy/paste it into the reply box it makes it a bit more readable.
What are the rest of the buffs you have filled in on the first page?
Judging by the values you have for WS DMG and Set DPS, I think you have something like cor rolls / save tp on the kamone set, but not the str katana set. (Str arisui will do more dmg during the tp phase vs kamone. Also you have tp bonus moonshade earring in w/o the tp bonus, and highest I've seen on byakko's is 5 stp, but could be wrong) Yes, Arisui(Str and att) is just too good to pass up for an offhand. I can go on and on about damage percentages and such, but to put it simple, it's really worth doing the trials for one. Don't know how bad it is still, but the apkallu trial at level 75 was brutal. I'd have to thank a few JPs for letting me team up with them to get mine done because they went Nin/Rng and spammed either Sidewinder or Slugshot for fast kills.
Is there any easy way to share a page of data from excel? I am doing Str katana trials they are easy. Just looking for a max DPS set. All buffs are the same.
Yea google docs has that feature iirc though I haven't used it myself.
Is your hitrate uncapped in either setup?
Either that or he has capped attack with insane crit rate
Yes both here is the %
Raw Hit Rate Set1 90.5% Set 2 86.5% Hit Rate Set1 90.5% Set 2 86.5% I see that the 8 ACC from kamome is that little diff. Let me lower mob level so we have a capped hit rate. After running some more Numbers i see that the STR katana will win with capped hite rate.
outside of abby i parse avg 45% crit rate with innin.
Thank you guys for clearing that up ^^ was wondering why the STR katana wouldn't win.
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So I'm thinking about leveling ninja to help farm empys and +2s for friends. So my ninja will specifically be made/used for abyssea only. Taking this into consideration, what would be a good offhand. I see a lot about the str/att ToM katana, but another that i had in mind was the OAT katana. Any general optinions would be obliged.
Asura.Werdxi said: » So I'm thinking about leveling ninja to help farm empys and +2s for friends. So my ninja will specifically be made/used for abyssea only. Taking this into consideration, what would be a good offhand. I see a lot about the str/att ToM katana, but another that i had in mind was the OAT katana. Any general optinions would be obliged. Stick with Kamome inside Aby and don't mention OAT Katanas before everyone else sees you <_< >_> Odin.Sheelay said: » Asura.Werdxi said: » So I'm thinking about leveling ninja to help farm empys and +2s for friends. So my ninja will specifically be made/used for abyssea only. Taking this into consideration, what would be a good offhand. I see a lot about the str/att ToM katana, but another that i had in mind was the OAT katana. Any general optinions would be obliged. Strange. Figured it might be a good idea. Everybody raves about the OAT dagger and sword. Figured the Katana would do well too. Asura.Werdxi said: » Odin.Sheelay said: » Asura.Werdxi said: » So I'm thinking about leveling ninja to help farm empys and +2s for friends. So my ninja will specifically be made/used for abyssea only. Taking this into consideration, what would be a good offhand. I see a lot about the str/att ToM katana, but another that i had in mind was the OAT katana. Any general optinions would be obliged. Strange. Figured it might be a good idea. Everybody raves about the OAT dagger and sword. Figured the Katana would do well too. Most of the OaT Magian weapons (the only viable ones I know of are polearm and gs) are penalized by a bad delay and the fact their proc rate is messed up by a job's chance to DA/TA/QA from traits or gear, so especially in Aby (but more like, always), where you benefit from Atmas such as Apoc, they are a bad option. OAT dagger, sword and katana looked good back at 75. Kinda sucks for the people that had spent a lot of effort to gather Ruthven's Nails or Verthandi Eyes, but they're pretty crappy now because of how much more multihit gear we tend to TP in now, even outside Abyssea.
Asura.Werdxi said: » Strange. Figured it might be a good idea. Everybody raves about the OAT dagger and sword. Figured the Katana would do well too. Leviathan.Kincard said: » OAT dagger, sword and katana looked good back at 75. Kinda sucks for the people that had spent a lot of effort to gather Ruthven's Nails or Verthandi Eyes, but they're pretty crappy now because of how much more multihit gear we tend to TP in now, even outside Abyssea. |
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