Ukko's Post Nerf Setup

Sup guys figured i would start a new ukko's topic for anyone that has been testing Dmg after nerf. So lets talk setups is RR,SS,GH gonna beat out RR,SS,Apoc for a atma setup now that we lost Crit% from ws, Or is there a change in gear we need to make to Compensate for this loss. forgot to add this is for Abyssea Sets only so we dont confuse anyone

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In no dreamworld is GH is suddenly going to beat Apoc ever. Never, ever.

I'm curious to find out if the difference is very noticeable. I'm still seeing huge numbers, which is a relief. While I don't own a Ukon, WARs who wield it definitely speed things along in zerg situations. I'm happy to see that they nerfed the nerf, so to speak.

idk random set that came to mind, probably severely flawed but eh. for outside, i dont care about epeen numbers inside.

i can understand Gh might never beat apoc but we did lose crit% maybe the random trip dmg from apoc will be beat by more constant Gh number is why im asking think its time for a new parse to be confirmed also after nerf i hit my 1st all time low on azdaja of 741 which is just sad

Byakko's have no place ever, if you don't have ogier's/shelled out for Avant+1 use Emp+2 legs at the very least. Acc should be capped so heafoc/augmented Hec hands beat Rav+2.

Zahak's might be better for fodder/Visions NMs but grim should win otherwise, unless you got Rheic/Phorcys body.

@above: no, GH is bad and you should feel bad for defending it. doing 741 means buffs were down you missed first hit only 1 extra hit landed and it didn't crit. If you are seeing it for other reasons the problem is with your gear and atma choices not UF's crit rate.

i did say it was for outside, not for lolbyssea.

the dex/crit dmg+4% doesnt help it outside whatsoever? the crit on zahaks either?

Double checked, it's better than I thought but there's still superiour options listed in the Ukko thread. Byakko's with crit damage is behind at least heca/ogier's/avant+1, probably behind perfect bellicus as well.

EDIT: If you need accuracy Avant+1 should beat Ravager's +2 hands, for head Ravager's+2 head should win with zerk/gressor down and not getting the ftp boost from Mekira.

i feel we are slightly off topic i was more curious of new Abyssea sets i still farm alot of emps and see many others doing the same so its still a viable reason to open topic

Kinda surprised we have a new thread for this. But well I imagine builds and atma choices aren't too different. Outside abyssea the average damage in VW seems to be a few hundred damage. Inside abyssea it won't even be notice-able.

The biggest hit to Ukko's Fury's averages though might be the loss of Blood Rage's Crit DMG. Especially in VW if you ended up spamming wings and macro's in +2 body for the duration it was lovely.

In Abyssea I'd still stick with RR/GH/Apoc or RR/SS/Apoc really. Which you choose is your own preference honestly.