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By daddyrabbit4444 2011-12-16 11:28:59  
why is wiki still not updated! where and from what mobs are new blu spells learned? INFORM ME!
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By Phoenix.Roidokun 2011-12-16 11:39:57  
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By Leviathan.Frotaut 2011-12-16 11:40:49  
absolute - terror nauls tah canyon abyssea
quadstrike - just do dyna x it's gonna be the easiest
vapor spray is off sharks in sea
gates of hades should be pretty self explanatory
thunder breath i got off of balur in kon. abyssea can be duo or solo'd very easily
tourbillion is off Khimaira type mobs i found doing nyzle got me a couple dif hnm spells easily
a spikes off flans in kon abyssea do it while your farming balour on the in between pops
pyric bulwark i got off Ningishzida in grauberg aby
b cresenct is off former type mobs i did mine in the aqueducts
bilgestorm is off dvergr type mobs so do them
blood drake i got in Bostaunieux Oubliette
and wind breath can be done on rift drgs in attowa abby
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By Leviathan.Frotaut 2011-12-16 11:41:47  
the link roi put up is pretty decent but has mobs listed for new spells that dont do them and some camps listed wrong but yeah it's decently accurate to get you through all your blu spells and updated fast as new spells appear.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2011-12-16 11:46:48  
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/BLU

96 Quadrastrike - Demons in Dynamis
96 Vapor Spray - Phuabo (Sharks in sea)
96 Absolute Terror - Wyrms
97 Thunder Breath - Only used by Balaur, Minaruja, Kindred's Vouivre, Lightning Wyvern and Simorg.
97 Gates of Hades - Cerberus, Orthrus
97 Tourbillion - Khimaira type mobs
98 Orcish Counterstance - Orcs
98 Amorphic Spikes - Flans
98 Pyric Bulwark - Hydra type mobs
99 Wind Breath - Dragons (Black type like Shadow Dragon)
99 Barbed Crescent - Fomors
99 Bilgestorm - Dverger NMs
99 Bloodrake - Vampyr mobs.
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By daddyrabbit4444 2011-12-16 12:38:56  
so of the new spells which of the physical one is uber strong {best} is quad contium no longer our strongest?
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-16 12:54:02  
I've not really gotten time to test but based on what I've heard from the various people who test this kinda thing, Amorphic spikes is pretty close to or better than quad(Edit: Quad meaning quadratic... Why do you have to add spells that share abbreviations SE!) and it chains with Chant for an extra bonus.

I've heard it said that Bloodrake is incredibly good but I've only gotten to use it twice since I learned it way past when I should have been asleep last night.

Quadrastrike is apparently badass in abyssea because crit damage atmas affect it. I've had conflicting information on if crit rate is affected by other sources than TP(and by extension efflux).
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By daddyrabbit4444 2011-12-16 12:57:43  
bout to head to lord varney to get blood rake we learn from him right?
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By Odin.Maddii 2011-12-16 13:01:48  
no, Lord Varney does not use Blood Rake(as far as i know at least)
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-16 13:07:15  
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
bout to head to lord varney to get blood rake we learn from him right?
I had thought so, as long as there isn't any competition or the people who do get it are just learning but if an empy group is after it they won't care to let you leave it alive for extra time to get him to use it.

I learned it from wurdelaks in Bostaunieux Oubliette. There are 5-6 spawns down there but some of the spawns seem to share spawns with other mobs so at times there can only be 2 up. It's not a "Great" learning location but considering it's one of the only two places you can find these guys in non-NM form there really isn't much better.

I'm not sure if it's actually a mob behavioral thing or just chance but many people seem to agree that vamps tend to use it while relativity high on hp which seems HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to me but the only times I saw it was 60% and higher so it could be true but my sample size is woefully small. The first dozen I fought, I chanted their faces in to get them below 25% and then switched to clubs to feed tp and they never used it. /shrug.

Odin.Maddii said: »
no, Lord Varney does not use Blood Rake(as far as i know at least)
I thought he did but I've got no proof of that.
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By Quiznor 2011-12-16 19:20:04  
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
bout to head to lord varney to get blood rake we learn from him right?
I had thought so, as long as there isn't any competition or the people who do get it are just learning but if an empy group is after it they won't care to let you leave it alive for extra time to get him to use it.

I learned it from wurdelaks in Bostaunieux Oubliette. There are 5-6 spawns down there but some of the spawns seem to share spawns with other mobs so at times there can only be 2 up. It's not a "Great" learning location but considering it's one of the only two places you can find these guys in non-NM form there really isn't much better.

I'm not sure if it's actually a mob behavioral thing or just chance but many people seem to agree that vamps tend to use it while relativity high on hp which seems HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to me but the only times I saw it was 60% and higher so it could be true but my sample size is woefully small. The first dozen I fought, I chanted their faces in to get them below 25% and then switched to clubs to feed tp and they never used it. /shrug.

Odin.Maddii said: »
no, Lord Varney does not use Blood Rake(as far as i know at least)
I thought he did but I've got no proof of that.

Where's the other non-NM versions? o_O

Also,I didnt even know there were non-NM versions at all,or that they had them under sandy!
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-12-16 19:25:20  
Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
bout to head to lord varney to get blood rake we learn from him right?
I had thought so, as long as there isn't any competition or the people who do get it are just learning but if an empy group is after it they won't care to let you leave it alive for extra time to get him to use it.

I learned it from wurdelaks in Bostaunieux Oubliette. There are 5-6 spawns down there but some of the spawns seem to share spawns with other mobs so at times there can only be 2 up. It's not a "Great" learning location but considering it's one of the only two places you can find these guys in non-NM form there really isn't much better.

I'm not sure if it's actually a mob behavioral thing or just chance but many people seem to agree that vamps tend to use it while relativity high on hp which seems HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to me but the only times I saw it was 60% and higher so it could be true but my sample size is woefully small. The first dozen I fought, I chanted their faces in to get them below 25% and then switched to clubs to feed tp and they never used it. /shrug.

Odin.Maddii said: »
no, Lord Varney does not use Blood Rake(as far as i know at least)
I thought he did but I've got no proof of that.

Where's the other non-NM versions? o_O

Also,I didnt even know there were non-NM versions at all,or that they had them under sandy!

Castle Z. Keep (s) has lv90ish vamps from WoTG era~ only other place with NQs, and its worse then aquaducts lol.
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By Fenrir.Curty 2011-12-16 19:29:29  
Siren.Seiri said: »
Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
bout to head to lord varney to get blood rake we learn from him right?
I had thought so, as long as there isn't any competition or the people who do get it are just learning but if an empy group is after it they won't care to let you leave it alive for extra time to get him to use it.

I learned it from wurdelaks in Bostaunieux Oubliette. There are 5-6 spawns down there but some of the spawns seem to share spawns with other mobs so at times there can only be 2 up. It's not a "Great" learning location but considering it's one of the only two places you can find these guys in non-NM form there really isn't much better.

I'm not sure if it's actually a mob behavioral thing or just chance but many people seem to agree that vamps tend to use it while relativity high on hp which seems HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to me but the only times I saw it was 60% and higher so it could be true but my sample size is woefully small. The first dozen I fought, I chanted their faces in to get them below 25% and then switched to clubs to feed tp and they never used it. /shrug.

Odin.Maddii said: »
no, Lord Varney does not use Blood Rake(as far as i know at least)
I thought he did but I've got no proof of that.

Where's the other non-NM versions? o_O

Also,I didnt even know there were non-NM versions at all,or that they had them under sandy!

Castle Z. Keep (s) has lv90ish vamps from WoTG era~ only other place with NQs, and its worse then aquaducts lol.

We did the vamps in Keep, easy mobs but went an hour without seeing them use the WS once so we concluded they didn't use. Lord Varney 100% does not use as well. So Bost. is best location by far.
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By Quiznor 2011-12-16 20:17:59  
Pft,I'm going to do the ZNM or the FL assault! Funk dat noise!
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By Carbuncle.Snicky 2011-12-16 21:17:42  
As far as I can tell, the vampyres were *intended* to use it at <25% hps, but they set it to only use at like >75% hps (or <50% >50%, idk).

We spent hours in Castle Z fighting them down to 25% and then holding them and they *never* used it. We switched to just beating on them with warp clubs and they always used around 90%.

idk.

Now to figure out where to get Tourbillion from. :I

(Edit: I mean an EASY place to get it from)
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-16 21:21:03  
Carbuncle.Snicky said: »

Now to figure out where to get Tourbillion from. :I

Nyzul isle
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-12-16 22:53:19  
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
why is wiki still not updated!

Good question. Why haven't you gone and updated it yet?

Related to discussion: Do the Khimaria NMs in aby-uleg not use tourbillion at all?
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-12-17 15:07:30  
Do Rift Dragons in the Chasm use Wind Breath?
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By Siren.Kyte 2011-12-17 15:13:43  
Yes
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-12-17 15:25:58  
Yea got it last night from them
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By daddyrabbit4444 2011-12-17 19:54:38  
anyone know if the demons in xacabard {s} use quadrastrike or not? and can it be learned from them not in mood for 2-9 nm pop in castle and i dont have access to dyna demons :(
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By daddyrabbit4444 2011-12-17 19:56:38  
and does anyone know what spells u pair up for TH job trait? and i wonder if it stacks with /thf :)
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-17 20:05:53  
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
anyone know if the demons in xacabard {s} use quadrastrike or not? and can it be learned from them not in mood for 2-9 nm pop in castle and i dont have access to dyna demons :(
Yes and yes.
daddyrabbit4444 said: »
and does anyone know what spells u pair up for TH job trait? and i wonder if it stacks with /thf :)
You get TH by setting all three gilfinder spells.
Charged Whisker, Evryone. Grudge and Amorphic Spikes
And it does not stack. No traits ever stack with other traits. Only the highest trait level is active.

This information is on the BG wiki.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Blue_Mage_Job_Traits#Gilfinder
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2011-12-17 20:08:04  
I tried demons in Xarcabard (S) and Zvahl (S) and even in Uleguerand Range, none of them wanted to use it. I eventually went to Dynamis-Xarcabard to get it. I also tried to get Thunder Breath from Kindred's Vouivres while I was there, but they didn't wanna use it. Ended up teaming up with some other BLUs and got it from Balaur in Konschtat (A).

And yeah, I got Bloodrake really easy from the Varkolaks in Zvahl Keep (S). First one I fought used it as his first TP move, and I learned it. :P They're only level 86, much easier than the Wurdalaks in Bostaunieux, which are 95-99. Though, of course, more travel time.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-17 20:09:39  
Any sets made for the new spells yet?
Amorphic spikes in particular, should I be stacking pure DEX or throw int in there aswell?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-17 20:53:56  
Roughly 20% DEX/INT according to Prothescar's testing, so STR is going to be your best bet as base stats go and additional DEX or INT would be a bonus in that slot.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-17 21:26:19  
Nice...

I've got this set made up then, any thoughts?
str +6 on the feet, debating if I should be using ire/heafoc due to it being 5 hits, however.
That being said, it's not that much different than my Mathproblem set.

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-17 21:45:30  
Athos's gloves and kacura leggings +1 eventually. Might be time to trade in the Warwolf Belt for pipilaka belt if the new spells phase out use of QC further.

EDIT: Also Maat's Cap.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rokusho 2011-12-17 21:57:46  
any numbers on amorph spike??' ive been playing with it inside abys and cant break 3k dmg (since i allways use it with 0 tp since is for SC with cdc).... so im thinking ill just stick with sneak atack + benthic for dark SC.... but wanted to know the numbers of other ppls
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