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 Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-12-03 17:42:29  
It's not a crit ws..
Ofc it's gonna do lower dmg than RR etc inside abyssea.
Go test this outside of abyssea instead :)
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-03 17:42:34  
The title of the thread is so intriguing...
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-03 17:46:02  
sounds like a nu mighty strikes ws!
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-12-03 17:48:00  
Im sure it's good outside aby. And tbh I bet it beats the new Scythe WS on DRK <_<;
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By Bahamut.Ragni 2011-12-03 17:49:20  
What's the point testing new ws in abyssea?
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-03 17:51:56  
Bismarck.Vize said: »
Upheaval is dissappointing if u dont have alot of vit gear
Considering that the ws is -heavily- affected by vit, Im not shocked.

Get your big vit pieces in, and use the less spots for attack options. That being said, Id like to see you find numbers that high on a non-crit ws non-str mod and then tell me if its disappointing.

Its obviously no Ukko, but no one should have expected it to be. And anything in abyssea thats not crit-based is always going to be disappointing.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-12-03 17:57:14  
Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
Bismarck.Vize said: »
Upheaval is dissappointing if u dont have alot of vit gear
Considering that the ws is -heavily- affected by vit, Im not shocked.

Get your big vit pieces in, and use the less spots for attack options. That being said, Id like to see you find numbers that high on a non-crit ws non-str mod and then tell me if its disappointing.

Its obviously no Ukko, but no one should have expected it to be. And anything in abyssea thats not crit-based is always going to be disappointing.


Same Gear as Torcleaver.



Byrnie+1 if no Ares.
Heafocs if no VIT+3~4 Versas.
Can replace Rajas with an Terrasoul Ring
Feet Can be Jingang Greaves.

STR49
VIT64 Ideally.
Attack 94

When more is know on Nyzul Gear you can use Askar Hands+5 and Askar Pants+5.


Swap Acc gear in as needed.
VIT gear is really easy to get.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-03 18:33:25  
Bahamut.Ragni said: »
What's the point testing new ws in abyssea?
Jesus ***, this. Everyone immediately runs off to Abyssea to test these weaponskills and I have no clue why.
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By Lakshmi.Vlorsutes 2011-12-03 18:34:07  
You'd want to use Warrior's Mufflers over Versa's if you have them. +5 Vit and +12 Att on just the NQ alone, and the +1/2 is/will be that much better.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-12-03 18:36:26  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Bahamut.Ragni said: »
What's the point testing new ws in abyssea?
Jesus ***, this. Everyone immediately runs off to Abyssea to test these weaponskills and I have no clue why.
Cuz that's all they do is abyssea content. D:
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-03 18:47:50  
I tested upheaval, with one merit in Terrigan, was getting 1500-2k with a terribly terrible gimp setup, it's not too shabby, honestly~

And personally, I'd go for ravager's mask +2 over twilight/Genbu.
The new Relic +2 hands/legs look quite nice for it too.
As Skarwind said, it's a War Torcleaver build, obviously a bit more heavy on the Vit I think too.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-12-03 18:58:54  
Lakshmi.Vlorsutes said: »
You'd want to use Warrior's Mufflers over Versa's if you have them. +5 Vit and +12 Att on just the NQ alone, and the +1/2 is/will be that much better.


I forgot about those lol. Sad thing is I actually had the +1 but tossed them for some reason. Considered them Junk and couldnt store them at the time
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2011-12-03 21:02:46  
Bismarck.Vize said: »
are u guys experiencing this also that Upheaval is dissappointing if u dont have alot of vit gear


lol ignoring WSC
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-15 18:27:57  
How does Upheaval do outside Abyssea with a good vit build compared to Ukko/RR?
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By Sylph.Biginallways 2011-12-17 05:13:07  
bump. can anyone with 5/5 and good gearsets tell me some results with screenshots outside of abyssea?
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By Asura.Solara 2011-12-17 14:28:10  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
How does Upheaval do outside Abyssea with a good vit build compared to Ukko/RR?

Doesn't stack up to Ukko's on fodder mobs, and gets progressively worse against harder targets when compared to Ukko's. That said, due to the number of hits it's pretty beastly during MS.
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By Nabis 2011-12-17 14:38:52  


been looking around for somethind decent. 3 pieces for darksday/night. dont know if ele gorgets better for this one, prob is. anyone else come up with anything let me know.

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str 62
vit 103
acc 39
Gaxe skill 11
Att 55
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-12-17 14:48:24  
Uthers Grip? Seriously?
And a czars belt. So, what, you wait in WS gear for 10 seconds before actually WSing?
My god the amount of fail in you is mind boggling.

At least you aren't trying to 3 hit it.
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By Nabis 2011-12-17 15:01:15  
lol dam the HATE!

looking for max dmg out the ws even if its just 1 time to see what we working wit is bad? i know u wouldn't use that set 25/8 come on...

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somthing better was less vit still ok for testing i guess

Att 75
str 57
vit 80
acc 41
DA 10%
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By Cerberus.Virgil 2011-12-17 15:26:46  
Mythril Grip+1.
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By Nabis 2011-12-17 15:29:28  
no brutal earring.
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By Cerberus.Virgil 2011-12-17 15:30:36  
I was so astonished by the sight of the Mythril Grip+1 I didn´t even notice.
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By Nabis 2011-12-17 15:38:54  
:o magian pdt Gaxe wink wink
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By Lakshmi.Kolvar 2011-12-17 22:53:56  
What about elemental belt/gorget? I have been told they affect new WSs even more then old ones.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-12-17 23:05:21  
Flame, Light, Shadow should work if a cross-referenced BG wiki and ye olde wiki right.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-17 23:12:11  
Bismarck.Vize said: »
Upheaval thoughts

Upheaval is OK. I tend to favor small maps but for some reason I always do pretty well on Upheaval. Be ready with a set that either has bouncing Bettys or bomb squad - Bettys if you plan on sniping/camping your *** off, bomb squad if you are the kind of player that likes to rush like crazy and bust all those pussy snipers.

Weapon selection can be somewhat of a dilemma on this map, as any weapon will do fine as long as you pick and choose the locations of your encounters to favor your weapon. Not unlike any other map, I prefer either the STG-44 or the MP40 due to their versatility.

Mad respect for anyone not wooshed by this.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-12-17 23:13:32  
I believe this will beat the gorget and Warwolf will probably beat the belt unless in abyssea, or fighting low tier things.
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