[dev1049] New Weapon Skills (yes, All Of Them)

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 Cerberus.Heartslaught
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By Cerberus.Heartslaught 2011-11-30 09:54:04  
Just did a bit of last stand testing (ram hack does work) before comp froze up (running on a 6970, issue happens sometimes with the drivers and FF XI, sue me)

With bronze bullet and bedlam +2 on corsair, 603

Oberon's bullet: 1137

WS AGI modded, initial mod seems to be 0%, could be worng. Each merit will take up secondary modifier by 17%. No rolls were on my corsair.

Looks like cor has a good DD ws, and ranger has something that can match jishnu's on a marks ws if merited to 5.
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-11-30 09:54:14  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Corsair for example is looking at a good WS to pair off with Wildfire which may be powerful but has issues against certain magic resistant mobs. Do I unlock Last Stand and subject myself to not being able to unlock something else? Do I enjoy COR enough to round it out? Here's where the fun decisions and some variety amongst players begins.
And that's when you
(get ready for it, because I'm about to blow your *** mind)
Amazingly, this game allows for one to actually change one's profession almost at will! And if one has multiple jobs, where one of them may not be preferable in a certain situation, one is actually capable of changing their job!
Wow!

If you're talking about a situation in which one only has COR, that's not what's being discussed. We're currently discussing the allotment of weaponskills amongst one with many jobs.

To attempt to preach the rounding out of one job when you have multiple that are capable of doing what you wish to be rounded out even better is just foolish.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn 2011-11-30 09:54:37  
So you are saying we are limited to 3 jobs<or rather 3 weapons> to be played to its maximum potential? ok long as that is what you are agree with then fine. But i find that HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, I enjoy playing all my jobs to the best of their abilities, and if i am not doing something to improve said jobs, i am helping someone else do the same, this limiting factor on 3 weapons is dumb and will further hinder my less called upon jobs even further.
By volkom 2011-11-30 09:56:52  
mithra ftw
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By Bahamut.Zellc 2011-11-30 09:57:12  
while i am not a nin or mnk, i do enjoy their animations. especially the mnk one. the bruce lee final hit to the ws made me chuckle lol.
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-11-30 10:01:51  
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said: »
So you are saying we are limited to 3 jobs<or rather 3 weapons> to be played to its maximum potential? ok long as that is what you are agree with then fine. But i find that HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, I enjoy playing all my jobs to the best of their abilities, and if i am not doing something to improve said jobs, i am helping someone else do the same, this limiting factor on 3 weapons is dumb and will further hinder my less called upon jobs even further.
Why unlock a weaponskill superior to Blade: Jin for your Ninja when your PLD can use his A- skill in club! Come on man, get your head in the game!
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-11-30 10:03:38  
Chill.
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By volkom 2011-11-30 10:03:49  
duno what weaponskills i wanna do!

definetly capping greatsword...but that scythe and polearm and gun... mmmm
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By Cerberus.Corphish 2011-11-30 10:08:39  
As an avid club-wielder, I am very disappointed (so far)... Club's animation looks like the laziest. Hepta-Strike? But now not unique to WHM.

Bah, I'm a jelly taru. All the other weapon animations look cool... ; ;
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:09:54  
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
As an avid club-wielder, I am very disappointed (so far)... Club's animmtion looks like the laziest. Hepta-Strike? But now not unique to WHM.

Bah, I'm a jelly taru. All the other weapon animations look cool... ; ;
Yea, kinda disappointing the more that I think about it lol. Hexa (hexa+1 actually) isn't unique to whm anymore so its kinda loosing a big spark it had before.

I demand a higher club skill than pld ; ;!... lol >.>
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By Cerberus.Corphish 2011-11-30 10:11:15  
But it's only acc based! Maybe Hexa still wins....!

/holdingontohope
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:12:12  
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
But it's only acc based! Maybe Hexa still wins....!

/holdingontohope
idk, read a few pages back that whm's were doing 2.5k ws's outside of abyssea i think
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By Cerberus.Corphish 2011-11-30 10:14:45  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
But it's only acc based! Maybe Hexa still wins....!

/holdingontohope
idk, read a few pages back that whm's were doing 2.5k ws's outside of abyssea i think
Hmmm, just basic healer-geared ones...? That could be nice.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:15:35  
Quote:
Stat+8 rings:

STR+8 MND-3 fire resist+20
VIT+8 AGI-3 earth resist+20
DEX+8 VIT-3 thunder resist+20
AGI+8 INT-3 wind resist+20
INT+8 STR-3 ice resist+20
MND+8 DEX-3 water resist+20
CHR+8 MP-20 light resist+20
MP+40 CHR-3 dark resist+20



More goodies:

Lv99 Belt: M.acc-15 MAB+10 M.crit+7% (BLM WHM BRD PUP SMN SCH)
Lv97 Back: DEF+10 M.acc+5 Absorb spell performance improvement (+10%), Absorb spell effect duration (+10 sec) (DRK)
Lv97 Neck: M.acc+2 MAB+8 Elemental magic casting time-3% (All jobs)
Lv99 Neck: Crit Rate+3% Magic Crit Rate+3% Magic Crit Damage+5% (All jobs)
Lv97 Waist: Occ. Quickens Spellcast+3, Haste+3%, Fast Cast+3 (WHM BLM RDM BRD BLU SMN SCH)
Lv98 Waist: STR+9 Attack+25 Double Attack -5% (All jobs)

Earrings (Lv96, All jobs)

STR+2 Attack+3
INT+2 MAB+2
AGI+2 Evasion+3
CHR+2 Enmity-4
MND+2 M.acc+2
VIT+2 DEF+7
Resist all status ailments

There's also a whole slew of gear that has stats specific to a certain battle area, which I'm thinking is the Last Stand, but I'm not really positive.
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By Fenrir.Crystenne 2011-11-30 10:16:05  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
summoning a phoenix with h2h...



say wat

Sword and GK are pretty much given for me seeing as they're my main weapons, but I really can't decide between Gun, Polearm and H2H as my third...

To the test server I go D:
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-11-30 10:17:02  
I'll be getting Sword and Club. Third one would most likely be dagger if it's any good for DNC (and I level it).
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:19:30  
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
But it's only acc based! Maybe Hexa still wins....!

/holdingontohope
idk, read a few pages back that whm's were doing 2.5k ws's outside of abyssea i think
Hmmm, just basic healer-geared ones...? That could be nice.


lol (mjollnir owner btw)
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-11-30 10:21:02  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
As an avid club-wielder, I am very disappointed (so far)... Club's animmtion looks like the laziest. Hepta-Strike? But now not unique to WHM.

Bah, I'm a jelly taru. All the other weapon animations look cool... ; ;
Yea, kinda disappointing the more that I think about it lol. Hexa (hexa+1 actually) isn't unique to whm anymore so its kinda loosing a big spark it had before.

I demand a higher club skill than pld ; ;!... lol >.>
I used to demand Hexa Strike for PLD since we have higher club skill, but... yeah, it would have been a lot more fair if "Hepta Strike" were WHM only, as well. :(

ALSO, KALI, THIS IS FOR YOU
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By Cerberus.Corphish 2011-11-30 10:21:21  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
On that note, I just realized they gave hexa to a lot of jobs.

/rage! >.> lol na
I was actually disappointed with this too >.> Something about WHM and club being unique... but then I realized everyone and their mother has WHM leveled I guess, and the chances they'll merit it over another job they have as a favorite.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:22:18  
Ragnarok.Anye said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
As an avid club-wielder, I am very disappointed (so far)... Club's animmtion looks like the laziest. Hepta-Strike? But now not unique to WHM.

Bah, I'm a jelly taru. All the other weapon animations look cool... ; ;
Yea, kinda disappointing the more that I think about it lol. Hexa (hexa+1 actually) isn't unique to whm anymore so its kinda loosing a big spark it had before.

I demand a higher club skill than pld ; ;!... lol >.>
I used to demand Hexa Strike for PLD since we have higher club skill, but... yeah, it would have been a lot more fair if "Hepta Strike" were WHM only, as well. :(

ALSO, KALI, THIS IS FOR YOU
I will not go to sleep!! D:
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By Cerberus.Corphish 2011-11-30 10:22:39  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
But it's only acc based! Maybe Hexa still wins....!

/holdingontohope
idk, read a few pages back that whm's were doing 2.5k ws's outside of abyssea i think
Hmmm, just basic healer-geared ones...? That could be nice.


lol (mjollnir owner btw)
Oooff. So probably DD-geared as well.. that's still not too bad. ARGH. Still in RAGE MODE.
By volkom 2011-11-30 10:23:33  
I wonder how big of a difference for damage/acc is between
4/5 greatsword and 5/5 greatsword
and so on.. cuz if its really minimal i may just go 4/5 scythe greatsword and polearm and put 1/5 on the ones i just want to play with
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:24:09  
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
On that note, I just realized they gave hexa to a lot of jobs.

/rage! >.> lol na
I was actually disappointed with this too >.> Something about WHM and club being unique... but then I realized everyone and their mother has WHM leveled I guess, and the chances they'll merit it over another job they have as a favorite.
lol, except that only 1% of the whm population actually enjoys to melee seriously.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2011-11-30 10:24:54  
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I will not go to sleep!! D:
I'LL BAN YOU IF YOU DON'T :| jk, there would be a riot, and I would die like, 70000 times over.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-11-30 10:25:48  
volkom said: »
I wonder how big of a difference for damage/acc is between
4/5 greatsword and 5/5 greatsword
and so on.. cuz if its really minimal i may just go 4/5 scythe greatsword and polearm and put 1/5 on the ones i just want to play with
I was just about to say something like this about the club one after seeing the above screenshot. Are they using the 5/5 one? Or are they using 1/5? Or something in between?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:26:36  
Ragnarok.Anye said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
I will not go to sleep!! D:
I'LL BAN YOU IF YOU DON'T :| jk, there would be a riot, and I would die like, 70000 times over.
D:!!
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By Cerberus.Corphish 2011-11-30 10:27:25  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
On that note, I just realized they gave hexa to a lot of jobs.

/rage! >.> lol na
I was actually disappointed with this too >.> Something about WHM and club being unique... but then I realized everyone and their mother has WHM leveled I guess, and the chances they'll merit it over another job they have as a favorite.
lol, except that only 1% of the whm population actually enjoys to melee seriously.
That too. That's why I took it out of my initial post. I felt it was nothing to get too worked up about.

But this is still a big downer so far... It's a strange thing to say, but one of the biggest things I love about this game is weapon skills. I think I've been looking forward to "final" weaponskills for a long time, and this (club) just seems very bland. I mean, come on! Even the staff WS looks badass.... but I guess they're getting their dues for junky ones...
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:29:40  
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
On that note, I just realized they gave hexa to a lot of jobs.

/rage! >.> lol na
I was actually disappointed with this too >.> Something about WHM and club being unique... but then I realized everyone and their mother has WHM leveled I guess, and the chances they'll merit it over another job they have as a favorite.
lol, except that only 1% of the whm population actually enjoys to melee seriously.
That too. That's why I took it out of my initial post. I felt it was nothing to get too worked up about.

But this is still a big downer so far... It's a strange thing to say, but one of the biggest things I love about this game is weapon skills. I think I've been looking forward to "final" weaponskills for a long time, and this (club) just seems very bland. I mean, come on! Even the staff WS looks badass.... but I guess they're getting their dues for junky ones...
Hexa is fine with me. Sure its dull and old and you've used it about... 50 billion times. Still glad we had sole ownership over it all these years. Just is a drag that our next best is not exclusive to whm.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-11-30 10:32:56  
Ragnarok.Anye said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
As an avid club-wielder, I am very disappointed (so far)... Club's animmtion looks like the laziest. Hepta-Strike? But now not unique to WHM. Bah, I'm a jelly taru. All the other weapon animations look cool... ; ;
Yea, kinda disappointing the more that I think about it lol. Hexa (hexa+1 actually) isn't unique to whm anymore so its kinda loosing a big spark it had before. I demand a higher club skill than pld ; ;!... lol >.>
I used to demand Hexa Strike for PLD since we have higher club skill, but... yeah, it would have been a lot more fair if "Hepta Strike" were WHM only, as well. :( ALSO, KALI, THIS IS FOR YOU

BYPASSING THE PROFANITY FILTER!!!
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-11-30 10:35:04  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Ragnarok.Anye said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Cerberus.Corphish said: »
As an avid club-wielder, I am very disappointed (so far)... Club's animmtion looks like the laziest. Hepta-Strike? But now not unique to WHM. Bah, I'm a jelly taru. All the other weapon animations look cool... ; ;
Yea, kinda disappointing the more that I think about it lol. Hexa (hexa+1 actually) isn't unique to whm anymore so its kinda loosing a big spark it had before. I demand a higher club skill than pld ; ;!... lol >.>
I used to demand Hexa Strike for PLD since we have higher club skill, but... yeah, it would have been a lot more fair if "Hepta Strike" were WHM only, as well. :( ALSO, KALI, THIS IS FOR YOU

BYPASSING THE PROFANITY FILTER!!!
DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
omg! He's right! >.>!!!!!!!! :XXXXXXXX
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