Possible New BLU Spells (11/11/11 Test Update)

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Possible New BLU Spells (11/11/11 Test Update)
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-18 09:07:13  
Kind of hope Bloodrake doesnt suck like the other drain HP spells, but that's me being ambitious.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-18 09:14:59  
Will fill this in as I get data.

Quadrastrike
Deals moderate to severe physical damage and can crit while under the effect of either Chain Affinity or Efflux.

Vapor Spray
HP/2. Poison unknown (presumably broken, I couldn't get it to land a single time).

Thunder Breath
100% of HP = damage

Orcish Counterstance
1 Minute duration, 10% +/- counter (approx., still need to parse it), no reduction of defense and a separate effect from Counterstance.

Amorphic Spikes
Deals around the same damage as Quadratic Continuum, if not slightly more, and makes Darkness with CDC.

Wind Breath
HP/4

Barbed Crescent
Decent damage, decent range(NOT a true ranged attack). Accuracy down effect is -30 accuracy for 2-3 minutes.





Unbridled Learning spells:

Absolute Terror
Lasted about 20 seconds. Seems to share the same resistance properties as Jettatura i.e. will not land on any NMs.

Gates of Hades
5fTP, 1.0dINT, 20% STR/DEX, the burn effect is 21HP/tic with a presumably potent INT down to go with it.

Tourbillion
Moderate to severe physical damage along with a 33% DEF down effect that lasts for roughly 2-3 minutes.

Pyric Bulwark
Broken at the moment, cannot test.

Bilgestorm
Low physical damage along with a 25% Attack and DEF down as well as an untested ACC down.

Bloodrake
Moderate to severe physical damage that drains HP to the caster for the same amount as damage done.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-18 10:24:37  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Will fill this in as I get data.

Quadrastrike
Deals rather nice damage and appears to have the ability to crit outside of Chain Affinity. More testing in progress.

Thunder Breath
100% of HP = damage

Wind Breath
HP/4

Bloodrake
Did 1758 to an EP turtle in Tahrongi and drained 100% of the damage as HP.

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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-18 12:29:29  
amorphic spikes does about the same damage as qc and makes darkness with cdc
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-11-18 12:32:42  
Very nice
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-18 12:45:20  
as I posted on bg, amorphic is looking like our new best sc closer, wind breath our most efficient and effective magic attack, and bloodrake a very effective emergency heal. crescent may also turn out being nice for the -acc while eva tanking and quadrasrike is looking rather nice as well
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-11-18 13:48:04  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
amorphic spikes does about the same damage as qc and makes darkness with cdc

Bitchin!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-18 19:23:10  
Edited my post to include all of the info that I've gathered.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-11-18 19:28:04  
I hope quadrastrike doesnt get the same nerf that Heavy Swing got. Or heavy strike, or whatever, i forget the name atm since I never use it.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-11-18 19:29:23  
Wow, Wind Breath was better than expected. It and Thunder Breath look like actual useful breath spells. Amorphic Spikes making Darkness with CDC is WTFPWN. Bloodrake is also awesome.

Vapor Spray is a breath?
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2011-11-18 19:41:53  
Cool spells.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-18 19:44:36  
Any dat videos posted? I'd love to see the animations
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-18 20:02:24  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I hope quadrastrike doesnt get the same nerf that Heavy Swing got. Or heavy strike, or whatever, i forget the name atm since I never use it.

Likely won't, it functions differently. It has no chance to crit without a JA.


Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Wow, Wind Breath was better than expected. It and Thunder Breath look like actual useful breath spells. Amorphic Spikes making Darkness with CDC is WTFPWN. Bloodrake is also awesome.

Vapor Spray is a breath?

Yeah it's a breath.


Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
Any dat videos posted? I'd love to see the animations

There are no animations yet. Even on the test server, every one of the new spells uses the same generic attack animation including the AoE spells and the buffs. It's kinda dissapointing.
 
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-18 20:09:07  
Main draw of breaths is their semi-constant damage and ability to ignore Magic Defense. Presumably the poison on Vapor Spray will be decent, if it's not it's basically just a more expensive Heat Breath with a DoT tacked on.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-11-18 20:20:54  
With all these breath spells now, Blue mages could be Dragonborn dovahkiin
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By Brolli 2011-11-18 20:25:30  
missing the conjurations lol
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By Bahamut.Blze 2011-11-20 03:50:39  
breathe spells still missing one
thunder Thunder breathe
wind Wind Breathe
earth Bad breathe
water Vapor Spray, Poison breathe
fire Heat breathe
light Radiant Breathe
ice Frost Breathe
DARK Missing !!!!!!

Was hoping for Dark spore
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-20 04:00:29  
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earth Bad breathe
Magnitite Cloud(?)

i am so excited for this update :) so much pwnepic :)
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By Ragnarok.Marquiss 2011-11-20 04:01:10  
Bahamut.Blze said: »
breathe spells still missing one
thunder Thunder breathe
wind Wind Breathe
earth Bad breathe
water Vapor Spray, Poison breathe
fire Heat breathe
light Radiant Breathe
ice Frost Breathe
DARK Missing !!!!!!

Was hoping for Dark spore

We dont have breathe spells yet, but we sure do have breath spells.
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-20 04:04:55  
was also thinking the dark breath might come from the yilbegan type dragons? if they ever plan on giving us a dark breath :|

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*The effects for the following spells are provisional:
Cura III / Regen V / Quadrastrike / Vapor Spray / Thunder Breath / Orcish Counterstance / Amorphic Spikes / Wind Breath / Barbed Crescent / Absolute Terror / Gates of Hades / Tourbillion / Pyric Bulwark / Bilgestorm / Bloodrake

^This might be a problem?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-20 13:07:07  
What I've got so far for physical spell mods:

Quadrastrike - STR
Bloodrake - STR
Amorphic Spikes - DEX, INT

Not going any deeper than that yet, and not doing the other Unbridled Learning spells. Takes houuuurs. Will find the stats for Barbed Crescent but otherwise the testing is mostly complete until the spells are on live and in their final form.

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Also:

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*The effects for the following spells are provisional:
Cura III / Regen V / Quadrastrike / Vapor Spray / Thunder Breath / Orcish Counterstance / Amorphic Spikes / Wind Breath / Barbed Crescent / Absolute Terror / Gates of Hades / Tourbillion / Pyric Bulwark / Bilgestorm / Bloodrake

^This might be a problem?

Doubtful, basic stat modifiers are the least likely thing to change which is why I haven't done anything besides those with the exception of Gates of Hades, which only required like 5 casts. Breaths and everything else are also very easy to retest. Only physical spells provide issues.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-20 13:29:10  
Bahamut.Blze said: »
breathe spells still missing one
thunder Thunder breathe
wind Wind Breathe
earth Bad breathe
water Vapor Spray, Poison breathe
fire Heat breathe
light Radiant Breathe
ice Frost Breathe
DARK Missing !!!!!!

Was hoping for Dark spore
Just as a note, wind had hecatomb wave and flying hip press already.
But yeah, we're missing dark still.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-20 15:45:01  
Okay so, done with the physicals that I care about testing.

Currently looks like:

Quadrastrike - 25% STR, 1.25 fTP
Amorphic Spikes - 20% DEX/INT, 1.0 fTP (possible attack boost)
Barbed Crescent - 50% DEX, 2.0 fTP (possible attack boost)
Bloodrake - 30% STR, 1.1875 fTP (possible attack boost)

Numbers aren't exact, only reasonably close estimates based on the data I have. Will do more when the spells are in their final forms.
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By Inuyasha 2011-11-20 19:56:56  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Okay so, done with the physicals that I care about testing. Currently looks like: Quadrastrike - 25% STR, 1.25 fTP Amorphic Spikes - 20% DEX/INT, 1.0 fTP (possible attack boost) Barbed Crescent - 50% DEX, 2.0 fTP (possible attack boost) Bloodrake - 30% STR, 1.1875 fTP (possible attack boost) Numbers aren't exact, only reasonably close estimates based on the data I have. Will do more when the spells are in their final forms.
This is going to be an awesome update :9
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By Sylph.Killuka 2011-11-21 08:20:46  
Any word on new traits? Or adding to existing ones? Ive heard about treasure hunter being one of them but do we have anything adding to triple attack? 4 spells for 1 trait is awful...
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-21 08:47:18  
Sylph.Killuka said: »
Any word on new traits? Or adding to existing ones? Ive heard about treasure hunter being one of them but do we have anything adding to triple attack? 4 spells for 1 trait is awful...

From: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/37619-Blue-Mage-Job-Findings/page506
Prothescar's info.
Orcish Counterstance - Counter
Vapor Spray - Max MP
Thunder Breath - Max HP
Wind Breath - Fast Cast
Barbed Crescent - Dual Wield
Amorphic Spikes - Treasure Hunter (Requires only this + the two Gilfinder spells)
Quadrastrike - Skillchain Bonus
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By Sylph.Killuka 2011-11-21 13:03:00  
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Sylph.Killuka said: »
Any word on new traits? Or adding to existing ones? Ive heard about treasure hunter being one of them but do we have anything adding to triple attack? 4 spells for 1 trait is awful...

From: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/37619-Blue-Mage-Job-Findings/page506
Prothescar's info.
Orcish Counterstance - Counter
Vapor Spray - Max MP
Thunder Breath - Max HP
Wind Breath - Fast Cast
Barbed Crescent - Dual Wield
Amorphic Spikes - Treasure Hunter (Requires only this + the two Gilfinder spells)
Quadrastrike - Skillchain Bonus

Sweet. Looks like i might be going back to just the double attack trait though. With all these new spells i dont think im gonna have room for most of them at this rate. Lol

Edit: That thread you linked is ridiculously long. Haha, but got a lot of info out of it.
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By Caitsith.Pebe 2011-11-21 14:16:28  
HMM amphoric is dex mod, that makes life easy going from cdc >> amphoric.
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