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 Siren.Seiri
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-11-07 19:08:31  
Well basically, im fine on sets for NMs of medium-high def or lower, but on VW my damage takes an asskicking.

Would anyone please be kind enough to suggest a decent/ideal set for top tier VW such as pil, kaggen or qulin please?

Thanks very much in advance.
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-11-07 19:56:45  
Ideally would like Draylo's input as I remember him mention landing 1500 CDCs on VW and this makes my 800~1000 embarrassed.

For the record, im always assuming RCB and 850+ attack total.
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-11-07 20:06:55  
lol Fail on my part didn't see this was for blue mage.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-11-07 20:08:07  
Would help a little more if BLU could wear most of that.
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-11-07 20:09:01  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Would help a little more if BLU could wear most of that.
Yeah I saw where this was posted right after i posted sorry.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-07 20:09:07  
Considering BLU can't wear half of that gear, it doesn't help him much.


Overall 800~1k isn't bad considering the targets. I don't think it's possible to average 1.5k CDCs on them when even WARs have a bit of trouble making marks around there.



Likely your best bet for outside of abyssea CDC. I might be missing a pair of pants or something somewhere, but I don't think so.
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-11-07 20:14:21  
Our ls ukkos war lands 1400~2.5 depending on DA procs and exactly which NM we're talking, but thats beside the topic~

So any suggestions for gear? Current set is basically a dex/atk hybrid with str where i can get it.
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-11-07 20:17:31  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Considering BLU can't wear half of that gear, it doesn't help him much.


Overall 800~1k isn't bad considering the targets. I don't think it's possible to average 1.5k CDCs on them when even WARs have a bit of trouble making marks around there.



Likely your best bet for outside of abyssea CDC. I might be missing a pair of pants or something somewhere, but I don't think so.

How would alcide's leggings +1 fare to lithe?

Any other body options such as the +1 harness? Tocis is a goal but pil doesnt wanna yield atm.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-07 20:17:32  
So you expect CDC to hit the same as Ukko's? It won't. Gear set that I posted should be optimal.

Ocelomeh +1 body is fine as a substitute for Toci's, but Loki's may be better without the ATK boost that Toci's has over Oce+1. Lithe should be better than Alcide +1s by a tiny amount.
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-11-07 20:19:03  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
So you expect CDC to hit the same as Ukko's? It won't. Gear set that I posted should be optimal.

Merely responding to you saying wars had trouble making that mark, i dont expect a single hander to match ukkos.
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-11-07 20:22:43  
Cheers for the input.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-11-08 20:48:09  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Considering BLU can't wear half of that gear, it doesn't help him much.


Overall 800~1k isn't bad considering the targets. I don't think it's possible to average 1.5k CDCs on them when even WARs have a bit of trouble making marks around there.



Likely your best bet for outside of abyssea CDC. I might be missing a pair of pants or something somewhere, but I don't think so.



Wouldn't attack a bit more important on VWNMs? Since it's pretty hard to crit on high lv NMs like VW due to lv and stat difference. Wouldn't Alcd. Leggings +1/Anguinus belt/Aesir ear pendant(replace brutal but keep moonshade)/SJ WAR/red curry help a bit with dmg?

Not sure if Rancor collar is worth using on VW either.

Also another day I was doing Pil and WAR was doing 2.5k average Ukko on it, and spikes for 4.8k. I think it's quite possible to average 1.5k CDC if you just keep focusing on attack.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-08 20:52:35  
Alcide's +1 - Maybe

Belt - No, unless you need the ACC

Ear pendant - Brutal does not leave your ear

Rancor Collar - What the *** no, why would you not use rancor collar

Overall your suggestions amount to +19 attack. That is not nearly enough to make a significant impact, let alone enough of an impact to increase damage by 3~500.

You're losing some WSC, 4% double attack and 5%~ crit rate with those suggestions as well. No, just no.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-11-08 20:53:37  
How does Enkidu's mittens do ?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-11-08 20:55:04  
I'd only use them if I didn't have Alcide+1s tbh.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-08 21:27:27  
alucinor mitts should be a tad above Alcide's +1 in addition to inventory +1. Perfect Blood Greaves (STR+4~5 in addition to the skill+) would beat Lithe but have fun trying to get those.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2011-11-08 21:32:28  
4~5 STR... still needa bit more atk and acc to offset Alcide's +1
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-08 21:40:55  
3.5-4 attack vs 1-1.25 fSTR and ~0.5 WSC? It might depend on getting that WSC, I'd have to check again. It's close either way though. Obviously if accuracy is an issue Alcide's +1 hands/feet would be the way to go.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-08 21:51:35  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
alucinor mitts should be a tad above Alcide's +1 in addition to inventory +1. Perfect Blood Greaves (STR+4~5 in addition to the skill+) would beat Lithe but have fun trying to get those.
Even if you did get the blood greaves, you're not replacing lithe right? I would think you still need them for agi and dex mod spells unless you have some really nicely augmented mederi boots.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-08 21:55:04  
Blood Greaves have DEX+4 AGI+4 and some resist ***as base stats, I have absolutely no reason to keep Lithe or Mederi if I get a pair with STR+4~5 and Blue Magic skill+5.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-08 22:09:33  
Ah, augmented blood has blu skill not sword skill. The discussion lead me to believe it was sword skill. Well, is that str from the random pool of augments? If so... f that.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-08 22:12:40  
Yeah, STR is random pool sadly. I'm still working on them, I'd love to think we'll get better physical feet in the near future but not holding my breath.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-11-08 22:13:53  
Considering the trouble augmenting has given me, I'm not going to shoot for perfect augments when one requires a random pool. I'm pretty ocd but not quite that much.
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By Asura.Malekith 2012-04-30 11:18:04  
Figure it's about time someone posted an updated set

CURRENT SET

(MY) IDEAL SET
 
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-04-30 11:28:17  
Khanda is ideal? News to me.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-30 11:28:24  
I thought something was wrong, then I saw the name, and everything became clear.
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By Asura.Malekith 2012-04-30 11:30:12  
No one's posted anything for BLU CDC in a long while and there's a lot of better gear available now. SO nitpick all you want on the offhand slot and be blind to the forest by focusing on the one tree so to speak.

The sets posted are based off what I have/ use/want. Obviously stick a STR SHAMSIR (99 name?) in that slot if you have it. That said, legit criticsm as to other slots/ suggestions/ input welcome.
 
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