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 Leviathan.Draugo
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 21:23:28  
Had to Re-Edit this
Each of these sets were built to shoot for 26/52% to be as true to cap as possible

None of these sets Require D.Ring

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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-09-25 21:28:35  
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 21:31:31  
yup
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-09-25 21:31:53  
Is there a point to this?
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 21:32:47  
one set, max %damage taken for both physical and magic. over shot the magic by 1% though.

Works on SAM too which is a nice space saver,the ethereal earring was for fun.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-09-25 21:34:03  
Then say so in your OP.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 21:35:48  
oops, can you fix that?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-25 21:48:08  
I here there's this cool thing called an edit button.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 21:51:23  
Didn't know you can edit title's, o wait.....
 
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 22:16:59  
Not trying to piss anyone off, nor impress people for that matter. The subject is what it is, You all know it now. Just wanted to point it out.

Idk for the most part these days if the physical side of that set is even worth packing around any more. The magic defense has it's use. And if /drk or /rdm ever comes back as a good tank sub the MP return could be nice as well.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-25 22:18:04  
Leviathan.Draugo said: »
Didn't know you can edit title's, o wait.....
Inorite, cause you can only clarify the topic of a thread in the title! Who needs to put words in their posts anyways, I'm clearly doinitwrong.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-25 22:22:02  
Leviathan.Draugo said: »
Idk for the most part these days if the physical side of that set is even worth packing around any more.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-09-25 22:26:27  
melaco mitts
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 22:27:34  
take a closer look, don't need melaco, but they are interchangeable, the DA and vit, I think beat them though.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-09-25 22:29:15  
but you could use them instead of that belt to unlock more haste.

edit: and get second earring even*
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 22:30:56  
That is true. Although you would rarely be in the set. Definitely wouldn't idle in it.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 22:34:21  
Is the MP return from the earring given from magic damage as well?, (and in turn the belt, since the phrase is identical)

edit: amIdoinitritenow?

MNK can do the same, w/ BB, melaco mitts, and just one 1% earring.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-09-25 22:45:54  
Yes it's all types of damage. Also, PDT/MDT values offer slightly less than listed, you'd need more than 50% visible PDT/MDT to hard cap.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 22:48:27  
How much more? 26% magic? and..... 52% phys?
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-09-25 22:53:02  
Work out what you've got in each slot.

floor((%*256)/256)*100 = actual reduction
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-09-25 23:16:42  
General rule of thumb: Any stat that has a hard cap will be true capped by adding 1 extra over the cap in visible gear. That last extra 1 point is filling in the lost fractions that were dropped because of decimal flooring in the programming.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 23:16:45  
Head
6%
Actual
Phys
5.859375%

Body
9%
Actual
Phys
8.984375%

Back
5%
Actual
Phys and Magic
4.6875%

Waist
4%
Actual
Phys
3.90625%

Feet
3%
Actual
Phys
2.734375%

Ring
10%
Actual
Phys and Magic
9.765625%

Ring
6%
Actual
Phys and Magic
5.859375%

Neck
5%
Actual
Phys and Magic
4.6875%

Ear
2%
Actual
Phys
1.953125%

Put it all together
48.4375% Phys = Need a 2nd Dark Earring (50.390625% w/ 2nd earring)

25% Mag dead even, so I guess the magic is not over shot after all.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 23:18:11  
Phoenix.Kirana said: »
General rule of thumb: Any stat that has a hard cap will be true capped by adding 1 extra over the cap in visible gear. That last extra 1 point is filling in the lost fractions that were dropped because of decimal flooring in the programming.

I think you need 1% over every 25% you need

26% to get true 25%

52% to get true 50%

As a rule of thumb that is.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-09-25 23:21:41  
Phoenix.Kirana said: »
General rule of thumb: Any stat that has a hard cap will be true capped by adding 1 extra over the cap in visible gear. That last extra 1 point is filling in the lost fractions that were dropped because of decimal flooring in the programming.

Well things capping at 25% usually need 1% extra, 50% need 2-3% extra, etc.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2011-09-25 23:31:39  
If you were to drop the 2 earring and used Melaco Mitts you would end up with this:

49.21875%

Might be worth it, gain 1 inv slot and extremely close to cap.

Could also augment your ASA pants with 4% phys. Drop the belt in favor of twilight. Use mujin stud in one ear, and idk, brutal in the other.

I am glad SE is giving us more options for this stuff. And not having to use weapons is nice.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-09-25 23:36:30  
Depending on how they handle larger values it's quite likely that ~51% is enough to cap. 512/1024, if you have two pieces that each give 1/1024 more than expected then you're golden. If not, ohnoes 0.2% more damage taken.

EDIT: Unlazied. None of my gear appears to give extra, though odd number PDT values such as 5% give less than I'd expected... because I was trying to calculate it via /1024. Works out fine in /256.
 
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-10-15 22:11:19  
Along with what you said, pull/idle etc, i often utilize -pdt when im tanking on jobs that can't evade worth ***, in my situation that means war. Also, mana wall, -pdt is so, so sweet with mana wall.
 
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