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 Leviathan.Kryptikk
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By Leviathan.Kryptikk 2011-09-19 22:27:08  
Wanted to know if anyone knew where they droped off of.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-09-19 22:32:15  
Doesn't sell in norg, I'll save everyone else the journey
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 Cerberus.Deadplaything
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By Cerberus.Deadplaything 2011-09-19 22:41:06  
Kazham maybe like monomi?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Lishje 2011-09-19 23:26:34  
Not at the monomi npc
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By Valefor.Ryukuro 2011-09-20 18:52:18  
Still no one found Kakka: Ichi scroll?
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By Phoenix.Cathaldus 2011-09-20 18:54:17  
Does any of the scrolls actually sell anywhere? Maybe they're going back to their Utsusemi: Ni and Phalanx ways.
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By Valefor.Ryukuro 2011-09-20 19:08:56  
I don't know, Can't seem to find info on it, anywhere
 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-09-20 19:22:19  
If I had to wager, it's probably from one of the HKCNM fights. Not entirely positive though, so don't get your hopes up too high.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2011-09-20 19:57:33  
one for sale on AH on Bismarck, so its been found
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By Leviathan.Kryptikk 2011-09-20 20:18:03  
Im assuming its in one of the WoE zones thats where all the new spells are being found
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By Shiva.Temaruma 2011-09-20 20:48:35  
Don't even bother getting it.

It's like Migawari, doesn't even work with Iga +2.
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 Bismarck.Snprphnx
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2011-09-20 20:49:48  
Shiva.Temaruma said: »
Don't even bother getting it.

It's like Migawari, doesn't even work with Iga +2.

LULZ
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By Valefor.Neokenesis 2011-09-20 21:07:11  
Shiva.Temaruma said: »
Don't even bother getting it.

It's like Migawari, doesn't even work with Iga +2.

And you are a Kannagi NIN ;; you really need to learn about your
selected jobs ;;
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By Shiva.Odaka 2011-09-20 21:14:49  
Valefor.Neokenesis said: »
Shiva.Temaruma said: »
Don't even bother getting it.

It's like Migawari, doesn't even work with Iga +2.

And you are a Kannagi NIN ;; you really need to learn about your
selected jobs ;;

Woooooooosh.


Refer to the AH page for Kakka: Ichi, please.
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By Valefor.Neokenesis 2011-09-20 21:20:44  
Shiva.Odaka said: »
Valefor.Neokenesis said: »
Shiva.Temaruma said: »
Don't even bother getting it.

It's like Migawari, doesn't even work with Iga +2.

And you are a Kannagi NIN ;; you really need to learn about your
selected jobs ;;

Woooooooosh.


Refer to the AH page for Kakka: Ichi, please.

So please don't just read Migawari then think im trying to derail thread.

Everyone is saying that Kakka may not be that good. But extra TP gain no matter how little it may be will still help in the long run. As long as it works w/ universal tools I will be using it.
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By Shiva.Odaka 2011-09-20 21:21:51  
Kuroganashis comment, on said page.

{Please check it.}

Then look at his Empyreans.

Then you'll understand the sarcasm in Temarumas' comment.


Rerail this thread after this, please.
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By Siren.Ares 2011-09-20 23:47:46  
Someone got from Yatagarasu T1 VWNM jeuno path.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104509-Voidwatch-Discussion/page49
 Leviathan.Kajii
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-09-27 17:16:01  
So for those that have bought it(currently 500k on my server), do you feel it's worth the price?
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By Cerberus.Evilpaul 2011-09-27 17:21:46  
If the tools for it are readily available (I haven't checked to see if Kapor Logs have been found yet), and the extra Store TP gets me stuck at 99% TP less frequently then I'd say it's worth it. It was only Store TP+10 though according to BGWiki, and I have no idea how STP math works, so idk.
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-09-27 17:23:45  
The universal self-enhancing ninjutsu tools don't work for it?
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By Makado 2011-09-27 21:52:08  
I'm guessing most have found all info on this but it drops in any woe flux (low drop rate of course). Also stp is multiplied by the tp per a swing on weapon. I'll use Sam as a reference.

Sam has base 40 stp with traits and merits at 90, say your using

Masamune which is 11.1 tp a swing, take 11.1 and multiply it by .4

this will equal 4.44 drop second 4 after the decimal add to 11.1 which

equals 15.5 so 40 stp on a weapon that gives 11.1 a swing will give

15.5 tp a swing. Any stp is added up then put into decimal form 40 =.4

87 = .87 and so on. Hope this helps.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-09-27 22:20:08  
A little stp math:
Assuming Kannagi/Kamome and 50% dual wield for a base delay of 98 per hit, and assuming rajas, brutal, +5 stp kitty pants.

Base TP gain = 4.31666666
no iga back, no kakka (11 stp) = 4.7 = 22 hits
iga back, no kakka (16 stp) = 5.0 = 20 hits
no iga back, kakka (21 stp) = 5.2 = 20 hits
iga back, kakka (26 stp) = 5.4 = 19 hits

Worse case scenario, kakka still gets you to 100 tp 1 swing faster. If you are not using iga back, it gets you there 2 swings faster.

Edit: Essentially, it's not worth casting mid-fight, because you will lose more than 2 swings by casting it. No reason not to cast it before a fight, however.
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By Makado 2011-09-27 22:33:22  
Btw it is usable with universal tools and lasts as long as myoshu.
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