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 Garuda.Antipika
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-04-18 09:06:02  
Barrd said:
we shude take a vote any 1 no how to make that ?


Vote for what anyway ? SE won't change anything because of a thread here...
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 09:41:29  
SE do what ppl wish for it to do there her to make us the player happy
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 09:44:18  
that y we email SE and thay read all the email
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By Asura.Ktjrn 2009-04-18 10:10:55
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SE will do absolutely nothing about this.

1) If all NM's force pop, then there could be a chance of 2/3/4 nm's in one regional area popping possibly at the same time, causing mass confusion, and mass overcamping.

Personally, I dont need anymore lag.

It would be nice to have some of the wait times reduced to a reasonable level (have a 3-5 day spawn reduced to 1-3 day spawn), but I highly doubt that will happen as well.

Seems like SE has their NM camps grouped out a certain way on the maps to ensure there won't be any camping overlaps.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 10:20:38  
yes thay do do what ppl ask if not there or no need for matnace at and if any mob in the zone where to drop a item to force pop a nm that wood rock but like ulli the item shude have a very low drop and if any mob can drop it no bot in the world can bot all the mob in 1 zone and a .001% will be cool and ppl will have to work for that and very hard but make it more avalabue for other ppl that all im saying every 1 shude hAVE A SHOT not just hnm boting linkshells and lol D. ring and ridlle drop like lol 1/50~ any way y you ppl crying
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-04-18 11:40:44  
Barrd said:
SE do what ppl wish for it to do there her to make us the player happy


And since when FF XI community = dozen of players posting in this thread ?

First thing : If JP don't care, SE won't do ***anyway. Rest of the world comes after.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 11:48:22  
well if ppl email to se thay read them
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-18 11:49:59  
No they won't though...S-E is sloooooooooow to adapting to the player base's wishes. You know how long it took to get an official windowed mode? 5 freaking years. Ya....
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-04-18 12:21:54  
about this whole idea: no.. just no... please, just leave it be.
these items are for people who really work for them, they arent supposed to be for everybody. this is how they made it, this is how the game is supposed to be.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 12:25:38  
lol no it not it was made to have fun and SE make thing better every time thay update things

ps no need to get mad we just chating man lol

pps lol you showing your hate full side lol
 
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 12:29:18  
lol ^ that is funny
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-18 12:31:54  
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Xxnumbertwoxx said:
No they won't though...S-E is sloooooooooow to adapting to the player base's wishes. You know how long it took to get an official windowed mode? 5 freaking years. Ya....


You are totally wrong. Look how quick they introduced the..cheese..sandwich...er..

>.>


LOL...

Side note, Barti...I just don't know how to feel about your new avatar. I like it, but I miss the 'stache...

yeah...
 
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 12:41:13  
what that have to do with SE making ALL NM force pop

who here camps hnm plz say if you do in your post too see if ppl are just saying ***that thay dont no anything abute or if thay are doing it now and rep you linkshell too

dynaxbarfreelot
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-04-18 12:46:03  
I'm not camping HNMs, but i like this game to be hard... It's what makes this game what it is, a hard awsome mmorpg!

Edit: If you want an easy game, play wow D:
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 12:50:57  
im not sayingmake the game easy but just fair for every 1 and

lol WoW
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 12:52:20  
makeing any mob in the zone drop the item at a .oo1 % is not makeing game easy lol TRY camping a hnm and you will see what im saying when the same linkshell get it over and over and over and over and over and over for 3-4 week in a row lol plz how fun is that
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-18 13:01:50  
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Btw I am willing to sell my Cheese Sandwich +1 from my bazaar, numbertwo.

Bidding starts at 100k!

(Avatar will be changed back soon..ish)


A 100k Cheese Sammich?! That better be tasteeeeeeeeeee ^^
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 13:13:15  
100k sandwic way over pirce i will give you 30 k

use it as a pop item for K B
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By Garuda.Littledarc 2009-04-18 14:05:38  
why was that commercial banned?
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 14:18:55  
i dont no fut it funny
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 14:39:56  
what that have to do with SE making ALL NM force pop

who here camps hnm plz say if you do in your post too see if ppl are just saying ***that thay dont no anything abute or if thay are doing it now and rep you linkshell too

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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-18 15:22:46  
Having physically camped an HNM is irrelevant, it's easy to see what the end results would be because they've already happened before. If HNM's were popped then people would shift their camping from the HNM to the mobs that drop the pop item. Even if quite a few mobs dropped the pop item, HNMLS's would adapt and monopolize, anyways. I mean, for mobs that have day+ long spawns people still find a way to camp them, so what would changing the pop behavior really do? So they have to send a few more people out to farm for the pop item...where there's a will there's a way.

Look at the ACP ***...granted it's died down a lot since everyone has pretty much done it at this point, but the first 3 days were ridiculous trying to get the items in Jugner, Meriphitaud, and Passhhow. Since it's a one time only thing, demand died down pretty quick...but HNM's are popular enough, and the rewards are in demand enough that I seriously doubt that it would ever ramp down significantly. End result would be, since people aren't monopolizing one specific thing anymore, they'd just monopolize a whole zone. Shitty, I agree...but I'd rather not have a whole zone get shut down by HNM Pop Item farmers.

Like previously said by someone else, and I agreed with previously, I think a good way to "fix" this problem would be to have the items be procured another way as well...BCNM, KSNM, ISNM, ANNM, **NM, whatever. The only caveat to that would be that they would have to have the mob be similar in difficulty, and have similar time restrictions as far as repeat runs and drop rates, etc as the camped mob to make it be fair to those that still wish to camp...hell, it might even lessen demand somewhat FOR people camping.
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 15:37:47  
you cant monopolize a entire zone with just 1 linkshell there will be mob run solo and thing that ppl can kill i have my loyer makeing a email to send to SE see what thay say
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-18 15:41:48  
Barrd said:
you cant monopolize a entire zone with just 1 linkshell


Yeah, but more then one linkshell goes after HNMs. If 4+ LS's send out 3+ people every day, all day, to farm Pop items in a particular zone, what do you think the end result is gonna be? And if the drop rate was abysmal (which by all rights it should be to keep things fair) they'd always be out there...
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 15:44:47  
but there will be mob all over the zone all over and there high lvl mobs so it will take some work and when you come to look at it that what kirin is a pop king and that works
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By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-04-18 15:56:32  
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but there will be mob all over the zone all over and there high lvl mobs so it will take some work and when you come to look at it that what kirin is a pop king and that works


All I'm saying is, what makes you think the people that annoy you with their monopolization of HNMs wouldn't adapt to monopolize whatever new system is put in place? Look at RMT, S-E bans the ***out of them, yet they keep coming back. S-E makes changes to mob behaviour and adds new mobs to target them (Goblin Bounty Hunter) and they figure out ways around that, too.

Like I said, where there's a will, there's a way...that's why the only real solution is to have an "instanced" HNM alternative.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-04-18 15:58:53  
Just have a bunch of Goblin Bounty Hunters pop with Fafnir!
RMT will never see it coming. BOOOM
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By Bismarck.Barrd 2009-04-18 17:00:55  
with the mob camp the size of a full zone very hard for you not to get 1 mob and all it take is 1 mob
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