SE Should Make ALL NM Force Pop

The only change to NMs I'd like to see is for NM with a Placeholder. I think they should all behave like Despot. The NM should pop claimed to the person/party who killed the last Placeholder. That way people that just sit there waiting for someone else to do the work will get nothing.

^ this.

Yeah these are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, like megalo, you kill the *** PH and someone just stand in the NM spawn area to botclaim it. PH killer should instant get NM, so people would actually kill PH at least.

lol...all the poor noobs getting wiped

*a level 6 kills a lizzy then gets raped by LL*

Well at least instances would get rid of b!tching and all the drama queens out there coming up with stupid rules and enslaving ppl for their HNM shells.... (not everyone does want to live for a LS ya know)

for all NMs that can be soloed... w/e idc -.-

lol I have had that same thing happen to me, camped the NM from death to respawn while some idiot just stood there and watched me, right as nm popped he ran for it and claimed it. Those type of NM's just need to pop after last PH is killed and the killer should get auto hate on it to avoid crap like this from happening.

If they made the ***easy none of the items would be worth anything. Everyone in the game would have the same equipment, and no one would have any sense of accomplishment. If you want to play a game where you are guaranteed a shot at every piece of uber equipment, play FFXII...

gl on doxa without internet or the guide~

And not everyone needs a D.ring or a ridill to enjoy that game. Some job don't even need a single rare/ex from HNM. Take blm for example... Nothing good drop from HNM beside gaiter but these can be bought np. Dalm ? Piece of ***on BLM.

wanna continue that - Not everyone wants to be semi-geared / skilled while playing a game for over 5 years without beeing enslaved in a overruled HNM LS

Best way I've thought of to "fix" the original ground HNMs was to turn them into force pops, similar to Ouryu/Bahamut battles.

Basically, it really only works with the originals... Turtle/Behemoth/Wyrm. SE creates three new triggers, and adds them to the drop list of the standard ENMs. They'll have a similar drop rate as the cloud evoker.

The original HNM timed spawns are deleted, and in thier place are a set of ???'s on a 15 minute respawn timer. A group that has obtained one of the new triggers from the ENMs can trade the trigger to the ???'s in the respective zone and pop the NQ version of the HNM (Adamantoise/Fafnir/Behemoth).

Upon defeating the NQ HNM, a trigger for the HQ will drop with 100% frequency, just like the Monarch's Orb drops from Ouryu. You'll use this trigger on the same ???'s to spawn the HQ version of the HNM (Aspidochelone/Nidhogg/King Behemoth).

They dont need to change any drops, no new zones or point systems to add... they simply add six new trigger items and three sets of question marks. Seems pretty simple to me, and solves all the problems people have with HNM camping.

Breaking news : not having a d.ring makes you a semi-geared player. wow

Now at least i know why germans and french never will get along with each other *cough*

yes after 5 years playing a job you should be pimp, even without spending 90% of your time in game for one LS~

Every tried to take a IQ test and lock further then 1 month in game? /troll

No you shouldn't. Time have nothing to do with this.

f(time) = gear shouln't be a linear function on any decent MMO. Killing ***for 5 yours do not grant you the right to wear specific items.

You want Limbus gear ? You do Limbus. Want Salvage set ? Do Salvage. Want a D.ring ? You camp KB. It's all about being versatile with all events.

to do this after 7 years to the people who worked so hard to get items in the first place? many people would be very pissed off. including myself. and ive never done hnm.

Easy solution: Use the ZNM concept with a 1-3min ??? respawn & maybe limit a person to 1 landking pop item per week.

Amen mon ami!

Considering this "hurt" would be entirely based on e-peen, I don't think the majority of people would give a damn about that.

maybe also make it so people can only participate in an hnm fight once per 24hrs.

id be pissed that *** got what they wanted

What makes them ***?

ok lets add that up then what you need to do,

Dyna two runs a week 3-4hrs per run 6-8hr a week
Limbus two runs a week 1-2 hrs per run 2-4 hrs a week
Salvage - three runs a week 2hrs per run 6hrs per week
HNM camping - 15mins to 3hrs per mob if youre in a slavery HNM ls - 7 times a week - lets make an average of 1 1/2 hrs per mob and 2 mobs per day 3 hrs per day 21 hrs per week

so we have here 35-47 hrs per week just to get endgame items, not including lvling other jobs, doing missiongs, ZNMs, Assaults and so on

Sir... you really gotta have no life~

You Dont have to do it all at once of course.... but even then HNM LSes are too time consuming, hell 21hrs a week - thats addictional gaming there for the finest grade.

***: person who *** about the way things are

Without b!tching, we wouldnt have gotten any job changes the last years so....

Yeah - eat that, ***

But then again who the *** force you to do ALL events and to own ALL items in a MMO ? You gotta make choice, can still do a pretty decent job even without owning everything.

What do you expect ? I can't do all events, cannot have all items, and I'm perfectly fine. You're not supposing to take part in end-game activities just to GET virtual goods that's are nothing but a bunch of 0's and 1's stored in a damn database. You're supposed to play for fun, but some player tends to forget that...

What's the excitement of owning everything in a game ? None. Well you'd be excited at first then eventually gets bored.

I hate the job changes. I am upset about everything post-ToAU. made this game easier. = not cool.

I'm an ***, i think you can understand that clearly enough. I hate the people who want to make ***easier just because they cant handle doing it. I can't. you know what? i don't get that item. im ok with that.

Well you pick priority in items you want! That's how this game works.. if you want it all you must spend a LOT of time doing events... and if you are mad that people with no life are getting more gears than you in a video game... you in your own way have no life or live it in a very strange way...

Splendid attitude you have to your fellow gamers there. Have you ever considered that this attitude is the reason people ask for change anyway? From all but the occasional experience, people in the end game clique treat those outside with contempt and disrespect; you're clearly no different.

If your only argument as to why things shouldn't change is because it undermines your effort, I hope they change things, just to put you and your fellow "1337 pals"'s sickening ego down a peg.

^this and - If you wanna play a game for fun, go play offline - in a MMO its 90% about drama, idiocracy, and accomplishment - if you cant take that - go cry in the corner.

If you dont understand that here a little example:

LOL Domarusam
lolpup
LOLAFdrg
lolafwhm

^~^

lol wooooodum have you looked at me, my jobs, and my gear? ive never done anything but sky and i dont even do that anymore.

im definitely not 1337. but hats off to the people who take the time to do this ***and i would not be happy for one instant even if i got those items if it meant disrespecting their effort.