Zerg Drk Still Applicable?

I'm just curious if Zerg Drk would still be useful in this day an age. Say if it would out DD emp weapons on something like DL or something simliar, or even be useful inside abyssea. I havn't heard of anything like that or even used it myself. But being in possession of one of the top zerging weapons, im just curious if its worth gearing up again.

kclub? no

anybody have info for me?

The last thing i zerged on drk was Smok when lvl cap was 85, typically its just easier and safer to melee mobs down. I'll have to try it again now that death in abyssea isn't a problem if you have apoc up. I'll probably go with apoc, sanguine scythe, and ebon hoof to have around 5k HP for souleater to go to work with.

Not worth it. I see you have a Verethragna already, that will completely destroy KC in zerg situations.

Parse from a Kirin;
Elysien (vere) 18315 31.02 %
KC DRK 14339 24.29 %

and that wasn't even with Blood rage or a cor.

I did 30k dmg to our last Arch dynamis lord with lvl 90 Ukon. We've never tried kclub zerg on him before though, probabaly sucks and not worth it however.

Can kill dl with 1 empy mnk, a thf and a rdm? curious cant find decent info, we managed kirin with same ammount of dd, their hps about the same.

im suprised its that low..

Many NMs build a degree of resistance to Souleater, some resist outright, and DD output has scaled much more dramatically than your HP, particularly vs old NMs where level correction is much reduced or nonexistent now. Even late-75 cap, other DDs weren't far off from kclub zerging and required less support to boot.

Sounds about average considering how long the fight lasted. I've hit over 22k on old DL w/ blood rage on and managed a 5442 VS, in less than 30 seconds. Not to mention drk is only a 1shot deal unless you plan to reset 2hours, and regular dd have more utility with the other things you're doing up to the zerg (ie, DL)

How exactly does that work >_>

DL,not kirin

Ukon war >>> empy monk if you are zerging. Mighty strikes is just that /cheat.

You must have some shitty mnks then. I always parse about the same to a maxed 90 Ukon war, with vere always having the potential to spike much higher damage.

Why are you giving me dagger eyes, it was a question enquiring weather it was possible not a statement. >.>. And in theory it would work with chainspell and hundredfists If it works with 1 monk that is. Kirin works with 1 monk's 2hr before adds pop, am simply asking if dl would be. Didnt say it would work thats why i asked the question derp.

i disagree in all my experiences doing it with masa/ukon/vere, masa > vere > ukon is usually how the parse goes

I misunderstood what you said in that case.my bad

Meh np my bad too getting defensive, but if you have lvl 90 experience of dl and minimum required do share Quiz.

I've done DL a few times at 90.Once was a shout group,terrible idea,which Im not surprised on the wipe because maybe 2 of the 10 people were pre-abyssea players.Other time was a bit more planned/tactical (was before the shout try) but was just after new dyna came out.Had no info or anything.Almost got him killed.But yeah experience with DL before/after dyna changes + good geared players.
I must give it another try sometime soon.Gotta get my ring

The amount of support needed for a proper drk zerg is unreal and just not practical anymore. you need chainspell stuns with 2 bards and a cor swapping alliances to set up the zerg, with that kind of support i would imagine any empy would pull out way ahead.

How can 100% crit lose out to vere or even masa, which doesn't even crit. Maybe you have some very shitty warriors. Maybe you're talking about inside abyssea? I wouldn't know never had to zerg in there. We only need to zerg on arch DL, and last fight I parsed almost dbl the vere monks.

Hundred Fists rails mighty strikes? lol, masamune rails outside in general?

going to need perfect defense/chainspell stun anyway, and with currently levels should only need double march/haste to setup zerg drk.. and its not like mnks/wars/sams dont use their 2 hours when they zerg anyway

Actually, mnks shouldn't use their 2hr when they zerg, or they attack slower =(

And if you have perfect defense, I don't think you'll need CSS.

Masa should never top a vere or ukon in a zerg situation, due to the time the zergs usually go on, and the crit advantages both these jobs get in that time (MS, BR, impetus) and all the crit dmg bonus. Not trying to say vere dominates ukon, but ukon definitely doesn't dominate vere. I've always parsed nearly the same, or losing/winning by a couple %s. While i've destroyed ukon by getting the potential spike dmg I mentioned before (ie 5500 vs on dl or 3k on av) due to a triple attack VS w/ all crits, high impetus.

sounds like a pretty terrible ukonvasara user to me chief

also


was dropping off my t3 rq in altepa for a friend's souls (hence on derpsam inside), but either way,



rdm/nin tanking in 2011 <call>

If Hundred Fists is raping MS, you should start bringing a BRD.

I'm fairly sure HF sets you to the delay reduction cap and we just didn't understand how MA factored into that when that testing was done.

Didn't realize MA factored into delay reduction cap. That means mnk needs a ton less total haste to meet the cap if it's based on base hth delay (or base MA1 delay).

Hmm. Still unneeded to use HF in a zerg situation =\

Then please, post some parses. I'm parsing against maxed geared/smart people here.

Maybe you don't zerg with max haste or someting? 100 fists does nothing whenfully hasted.
Player Total Dmg Damage % Melee Dmg
Warrior 30519 21.27 % 15947
Mnk 11954 8.33 % 7771

- Ukko's Fury 14572 100.00 % 5/0 100.00 % 1479/4942 2914.40
- Victory Smite 4183 100.00 % 4/0 100.00 % 0000/1420 1045.75

You can see the difference there is when you don't have super mega crit rate like you do inside abyssea. Mighty strikes simply blows everything away.

This is vs Arch dynamis lord btw, have you even fought it? The one 0 hit is when he's invulnerable for a few seconds. But compare his ws avg and highs to mine. Top 3 dmg were all warriors by far, with a relic war coming in 2nd even.