BLU - Don't Laugh At Me

Ok, I am not an almace owner. I've only semi-dabbled in bluemagery recently and I enjoy the job as much as someone can who doesn't take it seriously enough to have 15 macros for it. The thing is, I think like a melee job, not a mage. Yesterday, I was talking to the blue mage of our group (who actually does have almace) and I started joking about a melee set he should wear.

Long story short:

Assuming you equip the spells to net you blue mage store tp and dual wield II, would this build be any good using atmas razaed ruins, omni, and (sanguine scythe i suppose?)? It's more a theory and I'm just looking for some feedback for shits and giggles. Also, if you notice the build overhastes tp phase by 2% so theres room for changing the build. I just don't know any of the blu stp gear.
Oh and the machaera is the 17 STP one. sorry

Do you not need the Almace in slot one to gain access to Chant Du Cygne.

FFXIAH is a pain in the *** about putting stuff in the right slot (hence rajas on the wrong finger as well).

I don't get to choose which slot to put it in the site did :/
Assume its being worn in the correct hand or assume or blue mage is left-handed. whatever works for you

I'd assume so, but FFXIAH's itemsets don't allow you to specify slots for weapons.

Oh, okay. I didn't know about the item sets on the site.

lol, "*** you! I'm left handed!"

typically the way FFXIAH works. Is slots like weapons earring and ring the one you apply first goes to the rights lot the one applied second goes to the left. From my experience.

I took out both swords and re-entered them in different order several times. I anticipated this coming up too (not to mention my OCD about the itemsets function). No luck :/

Must favour the HQ equipment first.

BLU is way situational i always use str and dex gear for physical nukes (most of them are dex str mods), some uses agi gear only for just benthic typhon , i do use full mab and int gear as well for nuking with charged whisker /thermal pulse and stuff for te farming or when im bored of physical spells

18% Haste and 14 STP

vs.

22% Haste, 5% DA, +35 Attack

When changing out the back(Atheling), waist(Twilight), and feet(Homam).


I'd say over time the bottom figure would do a lot better, but there are some situations(where the monster dies and you need a certain # more TP to WS) where the top would be useful.

Whether or not you want to have a macro for that is your call.

I would definitely trade out 3 STP for 3 Haste on the feet slot though. The loss of attack on Tactical may be noticeable on some monsters too(but of course this would only be during TP phase).

He was assuming Omnipotent, 10% haste atma.
I dont think this would beat out a capped haste set with RR GH Apoc, but idk, would be interesting to see!

Sacrificing an atma slot and wearing store TP gear on BLU sounds like a bad plan to me, it turns you into a befouled blue wizard.

Body i'd still use af3+2 just for the simple fact you'll be using DD atmas thus not infusing MM for the most part so, the 2mp/tick helps keep the casual DD spell and buff spells u might cast.

And tbh, should cap haste 1st, Twilight belt, homam feet and af3+2 body with what u posted will keep you capped (2nd reason why body is that good).

Tiphia sting to replace tathlum, a better neck (i use PCC myself, aiming for sea torque) and that's about it, for a 2nd sword i'd use the DA one or a stat one (doing dex/str now, maybe DA in the future).

Just a suggestion until you get that torque, an augmented wivre gorget with crit rate from Tahrongi > PCC.

So instead we're looking at..

61 DEX(Omni and Loki), 38 STP(with Machera), +5% Critical Hit Damage

vs

15% Triple Attack(Apoc), 9 STR(with Shamshir), 5% DA, 55 attack

apoc is so wrong and a waste of damage potential on blu, gh as well, lol (thats if you dont have almace)

I did in fact say that this was assuming the use of omni atma. I don't feel that using that atma is a "waste" with almace because it also gives 50 dex. With the new ddex that's not falling AS far from using GH as it used to be.

Also, the stp is exactly what he needs for 7.7 tp a hit. If i swap neck it'll make him 14 hits to 100 instead of 13. If you miss a swing or two on CDC, assuming you don't ws in full stp, that would add an extra attack round to reach 100 tp.

Like i said he would be 2 haste over cap. If someone wants to swap something to free up another slot im all ears.

There is no "new" dDEX.

lolno

As for the OP, the only STP pieces I see that are remotely worth using from that build are Loki's (in combination with Zelus), White Tathlum, and obviously Rajas + Brutal.

what

I was given the impression that crit rate from dex capped higher now. If i was mistaken, disregard that comment.

Also, regardless of whether you think I'm going to listen to you or not, could you expound on your opinion a little more about the gearing? It's not going to help our debate any with 20 posts of "it could work" or "nah i don't like it".

You used 2 swords in those sets that are not the offhand in the OP.

Also, what's your opinion josi?

They upped the global critrate cap from 95% to 100%. Nothing changed with relation to dDEX, Byrth and I did some testing on that right after the update.

Even in Abyssea, where WS damage is greatly inflated, and with Almace, which unlocks a WS that far exceeds the damage potential of other sword WS, most of BLU's melee damage is in the TP phase. Omnipotent, Store TP gear... none of the changes you're making are enhancing that. In fact, with the setup you've chosen it's notably detrimental. Trading Atheling for Tactical sacrifices 35 attack (>7% increase in TP phase damage) and 3% DA (1.6% increase in TP phase damage, 1.5% increase in WS frequency) for a 4.5% increase in WS frequency. STR Shamshir +2 offers a ~5% boost to global damage via attack alone and also offers superior base damage (significant in that the base damage increase actually ups the fSTR cap for that hand in this case) and a more favorable delay (ODD procs). Machaera +2's sole benefit is a ~13% increase in WS frequency. The combined trades of GH, Zelus Tiara, Homam Gambieras, and Twilight Belt vs Omnipotent, Mavi Kavuk +2, Goading Belt, and Gules Leggings is 20% critrate, 2% DA vs 25.5 WSC for CDC, 38 accuracy, 6 attack, and 8 Store TP. For reference, the 20% critrate does more for CDC than the WSC does inside Abyssea.

Yeach about the wivre gorget, i got 1 with crit +1 doing AoE burn on scorps some time ago but let a friend who was leeching get it, next time ill aim to get +1/2 (in case +2 can be obtained).

To ash: Admit it, you just love BLU now and want an Almace!!

Use the actual swords he did and you'll see it happen, I just did and it happened.

This was very helpful. I was thinking that a blu's damage is more from CDC than tp phase (purely eyeballing his melee attacks vs. ws) and tipping the scales toward ws>tp.

This is what I would guess is a "normal" tp build:



The whole theory in the OP was just that, me not knowing how to gear blue mage only being a couple months old on it.

Also, is blue mage going to benefit more using SS over GH or no? It seems everyone is talking about RR with SS now instead of GH. Would that be a mistake?


ninja edit:


Round 2 is redemption and round 3 is ukko. IF we get around to ever making everyone a 4th empyrean i might consider it ;3 Ironically rdm and pld were my 3rd and 4th jobs to 75 after drg and nin, and i never use any of the first 5!!! (i only get to be my precious drg when im only needed for DD or piercing blue).

Drg nin pld rdm brd if anyone cares. ( i know you dont)

Suppa, Sea Torque, Dusk Gloves.