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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-02 15:56:27  
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Terrasoul Rings worth getting?

Sure if you wanna fork over 1mil when they will just crash down to 200k in a few updates. I made that mistake when the +6 rings came out, Paid 2mil for the +6 STR ring, Now they are 200k. Its main reason why im sticking to rajas/Spiral, ill buy rings when the final ones come out.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-06-02 16:20:13  
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I think the only gear that will be higher than 90 is Salvage+1 (maybe some miscs) and the Jebus weapons that require the 90 Relic/Mythic/Emp respectably, they have a rainbow aura too; new expansion in 20 years.

Don't forget about the aern weapons that they didnt finish developing (i know about synergy and emoliths but that's a fail attempt at content).
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2011-06-02 16:23:24  
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Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Terrasoul Rings worth getting?

Sure if you wanna fork over 1mil when they will just crash down to 200k in a few updates. I made that mistake when the +6 rings came out, Paid 2mil for the +6 STR ring, Now they are 200k. Its main reason why im sticking to rajas/Spiral, ill buy rings when the final ones come out.
How do you know these aren't the final ones or the final rings don't cost more/(r/e) to get? Terrasoul rings run about 700k.

I can make these rings from scratch. All I need is to synth the gem from the geodes which is cheap and easy for the earth geodes.

Quite honest, gil isn't much a problem for me. Forking a mil for a slot is the difference from 0 and +1 stat and it all adds up.
 
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-02 16:28:00  
Homam/Nashira and Nyzul Isle +1s too!

The Aern weapons were a mere test rat for the synergy system with unique items, which has now evolved in the Abj. synergy etc etc.

I honestly doubt they'll ever see a future development.

A reskin at most, but SE seems to have this terrible timing with releasing new, cool looking designs and then slap them on gear that becomes outdated in a blink of an eye. (Nocturnus armor, Nightfall, V.Fork etc.)

Edit: and I second Gradd's thought over the +7 Rings. We've gone from +5 to +6 at 75 (from VNMs) then +7, and now we are still 9 lvls from cap, plus SE is considering augmenting Mission rings. I find it hard they'll leave a 9 lvl gap open and nothing better with "lvl 99" written on it
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-06-02 16:39:19  
Not sure how successful this will be, but if anyone on azura wants to +2 their legs, I still need 29 lanterns. I'm on most evenings.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2011-06-03 13:36:29  
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Homam/Nashira and Nyzul Isle +1s too!

The Aern weapons were a mere test rat for the synergy system with unique items, which has now evolved in the Abj. synergy etc etc.

I honestly doubt they'll ever see a future development.

A reskin at most, but SE seems to have this terrible timing with releasing new, cool looking designs and then slap them on gear that becomes outdated in a blink of an eye. (Nocturnus armor, Nightfall, V.Fork etc.)

Edit: and I second Gradd's thought over the +7 Rings. We've gone from +5 to +6 at 75 (from VNMs) then +7, and now we are still 9 lvls from cap, plus SE is considering augmenting Mission rings. I find it hard they'll leave a 9 lvl gap open and nothing better with "lvl 99" written on it
Speculation doesn't help with the current build. It's like also saying why get x and y weapon and gear now when there will be better weapons and gear at 99.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-03 14:33:17  
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Homam/Nashira and Nyzul Isle +1s too!

The Aern weapons were a mere test rat for the synergy system with unique items, which has now evolved in the Abj. synergy etc etc.

I honestly doubt they'll ever see a future development.

A reskin at most, but SE seems to have this terrible timing with releasing new, cool looking designs and then slap them on gear that becomes outdated in a blink of an eye. (Nocturnus armor, Nightfall, V.Fork etc.)

Edit: and I second Gradd's thought over the +7 Rings. We've gone from +5 to +6 at 75 (from VNMs) then +7, and now we are still 9 lvls from cap, plus SE is considering augmenting Mission rings. I find it hard they'll leave a 9 lvl gap open and nothing better with "lvl 99" written on it
Speculation doesn't help with the current build. It's like also saying why get x and y weapon and gear now when there will be better weapons and gear at 99.

Because every other piece of gear is free and easy to get? Idk, seems alot different than spending gil to me on a item that you will hardly notice any difference at all with. I'll buy my minor upgrade item (rings) at 99 until then I really dont care.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-03 14:34:49  
Making gil is trivial right now, might as well keep up with the upgrades.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-03 14:40:38  
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Making gil is trivial right now, might as well keep up with the upgrades.

Idk rather just save my gil for now, if I really want a VIT ring I have 3 VNM antlion pops I can try at even if VNM rings don't exist!
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2011-06-03 14:58:58  
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Making gil is trivial right now, might as well keep up with the upgrades.

Idk rather just save my gil for now, if I really want a VIT ring I have 3 VNM antlion pops I can try at even if VNM rings don't exist!
Why spend all that effort when you can make 600k-800k in that time and get a +7 ring?

Free =/= time spent. Ideally, everything in the game is free.

Like I said earlier, every small difference adds up.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-06-03 16:26:46  
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Making gil is trivial right now, might as well keep up with the upgrades.

Idk rather just save my gil for now, if I really want a VIT ring I have 3 VNM antlion pops I can try at even if VNM rings don't exist!
Why spend all that effort when you can make 600k-800k in that time and get a +7 ring?

Free =/= time spent. Ideally, everything in the game is free.

Like I said earlier, every small difference adds up.

Not really putting any effort into it when I already have the pops, if the NM doesnt put out oh well i'll wait~ Like I said I am buying rings eventually just now i'd rather wait. Its a personal choice not going to make or break me especially when my own build is better than 90% of other DRKs already~
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-06-03 19:30:23  
Lakshmi.Seoha said:

Zic told me through PM's one day that I need 850 ATK to cap my pDIF against IT mobs at lvl 90.

Is that inside or outside abyssea?

Here's a set I'm preparing before doing Caladbolg Trials that is within my current personal reach:



Last Resort bumps my GSword Attack to 832 (8/8 merits) outside Abyssea, though my VIT is lacking before 85 Caladbolg. I don't have an Ares Cuirass (much less a Salvage Group), Twilight Mail or Shadow Breastplate to go on for extra VIT though, so could I add some extra VIT in places depending on the situation? For instance I'm considering those jingang greaves for example.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-03 19:40:42  
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Homam/Nashira and Nyzul Isle +1s too!

The Aern weapons were a mere test rat for the synergy system with unique items, which has now evolved in the Abj. synergy etc etc.

I honestly doubt they'll ever see a future development.

A reskin at most, but SE seems to have this terrible timing with releasing new, cool looking designs and then slap them on gear that becomes outdated in a blink of an eye. (Nocturnus armor, Nightfall, V.Fork etc.)

Edit: and I second Gradd's thought over the +7 Rings. We've gone from +5 to +6 at 75 (from VNMs) then +7, and now we are still 9 lvls from cap, plus SE is considering augmenting Mission rings. I find it hard they'll leave a 9 lvl gap open and nothing better with "lvl 99" written on it
Speculation doesn't help with the current build. It's like also saying why get x and y weapon and gear now when there will be better weapons and gear at 99.

The main reason some people will disagree with the choice of saving some Gil over an item that will likely drop in price once we get a new lvl cap is simple.

Bismark.Hsieh said:
I can make these rings from scratch. All I need is to synth the gem from the geodes which is cheap and easy for the earth geodes.

They are crafters :P

I know Gil is easy to make up these days, but it's just as easy to waste it over something that quickly loses its value. It's something people keep in mind in the real world, so I don't see why it should differ in a game where, for the same reasons, time = money.
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2011-06-03 19:48:14  
How the hell do I atma this thing? Also mithra VIT sucks.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2011-06-03 20:04:27  
Odin.Sheelay said:
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Homam/Nashira and Nyzul Isle +1s too!

The Aern weapons were a mere test rat for the synergy system with unique items, which has now evolved in the Abj. synergy etc etc.

I honestly doubt they'll ever see a future development.

A reskin at most, but SE seems to have this terrible timing with releasing new, cool looking designs and then slap them on gear that becomes outdated in a blink of an eye. (Nocturnus armor, Nightfall, V.Fork etc.)

Edit: and I second Gradd's thought over the +7 Rings. We've gone from +5 to +6 at 75 (from VNMs) then +7, and now we are still 9 lvls from cap, plus SE is considering augmenting Mission rings. I find it hard they'll leave a 9 lvl gap open and nothing better with "lvl 99" written on it
Speculation doesn't help with the current build. It's like also saying why get x and y weapon and gear now when there will be better weapons and gear at 99.

The main reason some people will disagree with the choice of saving some Gil over an item that will likely drop in price once we get a new lvl cap is simple.

Bismark.Hsieh said:
I can make these rings from scratch. All I need is to synth the gem from the geodes which is cheap and easy for the earth geodes.

They are crafters :P

I know Gil is easy to make up these days, but it's just as easy to waste it over something that quickly loses its value. It's something people keep in mind in the real world, so I don't see why it should differ in a game where, for the same reasons, time = money.

It's really by choice. Once again I iterate the concept of "losing value" due to a lvl 99 cap in the future is not a justified reason to not buy something now and not be able to use it when the cap hits 99. You are basing a justification on speculation. Ideally, everything in this game has a depreciatable value.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2011-06-03 20:06:56  
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Lakshmi.Seoha said:

Zic told me through PM's one day that I need 850 ATK to cap my pDIF against IT mobs at lvl 90.

Is that inside or outside abyssea?

Here's a set I'm preparing before doing Caladbolg Trials that is within my current personal reach:



Last Resort bumps my GSword Attack to 832 (8/8 merits) outside Abyssea, though my VIT is lacking before 85 Caladbolg. I don't have an Ares Cuirass (much less a Salvage Group), Twilight Mail or Shadow Breastplate to go on for extra VIT though, so could I add some extra VIT in places depending on the situation? For instance I'm considering those jingang greaves for example.
I bought a pair today but some people will say there will be better items at lvl 99 or what not. It's up to you. You can try and do the KCNM and get a "free" pair if drops.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-06-03 22:14:07  
Bismarck.Hsieh said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Lakshmi.Seoha said:

Zic told me through PM's one day that I need 850 ATK to cap my pDIF against IT mobs at lvl 90.

Is that inside or outside abyssea?

Here's a set I'm preparing before doing Caladbolg Trials that is within my current personal reach:



Last Resort bumps my GSword Attack to 832 (8/8 merits) outside Abyssea, though my VIT is lacking before 85 Caladbolg. I don't have an Ares Cuirass (much less a Salvage Group), Twilight Mail or Shadow Breastplate to go on for extra VIT though, so could I add some extra VIT in places depending on the situation? For instance I'm considering those jingang greaves for example.
I bought a pair today but some people will say there will be better items at lvl 99 or what not. It's up to you. You can try and do the KCNM and get a "free" pair if drops.
Perhaps I should try that once a shout pops up. I haven't seen any shouts for those in Port Jeuno yet, but I'll have to hop on board once I do.

Though I'm still asking- The 850 ATT Cap on IT Mobs at level 90 goes for all areas or outside Abyssea? If it's inside, then perhaps I could change the set around a bit.
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By Siren.Skanless 2011-06-13 09:12:13  
Ok i'm trying to find to find any help on trying to push higher number's on Torcleaver in and outside of Aby just not having much luck pushing higher then 2.5k- 3k with 300% TP. Working on getting my Ares's body hands and feet done but these are my Tp and Ws set's please feel free to comment and help with my setup. Thank you.

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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-06-13 11:51:44  
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Ok i'm trying to find to find any help on trying to push higher number's on Torcleaver in and outside of Aby just not having much luck pushing higher then 2.5k- 3k with 300% TP. Working on getting my Ares's body hands and feet done but these are my Tp and Ws set's please feel free to comment and help with my setup. Thank you.

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bale cuirass+2 &
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By Infernoflame 2011-06-14 23:51:05  
What Atmas do you use for Torcleaver been useing RR/VV/Mounted Champ (know i spelt that wrong) any other atmas better then that set up?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-14 23:58:57  
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What Atmas do you use for Torcleaver been useing RR/VV/Mounted Champ (know i spelt that wrong) any other atmas better then that set up?

Use AoA instead of MC (from what I've gathered around here). Not sure if VV is the way to go over other choices, though.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-15 00:00:50  
I'd probably stick with RR/SS/AoA to further bump the crit damage during TP and Aftermath phases. Plus, the HP boost is always welcome for when Souleater is ready (as long as there's a good healer)
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By Infernoflame 2011-06-15 00:34:36  
I dont go /thf btw just dont prefure it in my opinion. Also for some slow people, whats AoA and SS? I wanna do good damage and good WS's. Id show my WS set up but idk how to do it on here so I'll just type it out and FYI: my gear isnt the best like ive seen on previous posts:

HEAD: Twilight
Body: Hecatomb Body
Hands: Alkyoneus's bracelets
Legs: Jingang Hose
Feet: Bale Sollerets +2
Ear Rings: Brutal and Soil
Rings: Soil and Spiral
Neck and Belt: Snow Gorget
Back: Atheling Mantle
Ammo: Bibiki Shell
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-15 01:28:22  
AoA = Atma of the Apocalypse (Shinryu's Atma)

SS = Atma of the Sanguine Scythe (Bukhis's Atma)
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By Carbuncle.Niusha 2011-06-15 01:53:31  
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What Atmas do you use for Torcleaver been useing RR/VV/Mounted Champ (know i spelt that wrong) any other atmas better then that set up?

it depends on what i'm subbing

/war and /thf i usually go with AoA, RR, SS
/mnk i like AoA, RR, and GH. 60%+ counter rate is sexy, crit hit rate near cap doesn't hurt either
/sam i don't really use anymore since hasso's weapon delay- doesn't stack with last resort

it's all about the ODD really for me
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-15 02:15:33  
I prefer VV, AoA and RR.

Sometimes I swap VV Out for other atmas though. Would-Be King is actually a lot better than I would have thought for Dark Knight.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Scruffyballs 2011-06-15 08:45:35  
What I have been using lately:
/SAM 6hit: RR, AoA, SQ
/SAM 7hit: RR, SS, AoA
/NIN 7hit: RR, AoA, SQ
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