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 Remora.Dodu
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-21 17:20:11  
Asura.Wilbert said:
Somethings are just preference also. I do like you're set but if our goal is to achieve a 7 hit build with still capping we both do we just chose different items to do it with is all.

You heard it here, folks. Math is subject to one's preference.
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By Asura.Toxleh 2011-07-21 17:27:13  
With his build he's also gaining accuracy. There are times nowadays where accuracy isn't capped on everything. Also you don't have to call him gimp because your too gimp to afford N Sash/Mar's Ring bro.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-07-21 17:31:16  
If you are Arguing ACC you should be using something like this.



Twilight over E:body if you are really hurting on ACC.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-07-21 17:31:37  
Asura.Toxleh said:
With his build he's also gaining accuracy. There are times nowadays where accuracy isn't capped on everything. Also you don't have to call him gimp because your too gimp to afford N Sash/Mar's Ring bro.

Lol.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-07-21 17:32:20  
Chill.
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By Valefor.Jaypea 2011-07-25 18:45:29  
Asura.Toxleh said:
With his build he's also gaining accuracy. There are times nowadays where accuracy isn't capped on everything. Also you don't have to call him gimp because your too gimp to afford N Sash/Mar's Ring bro.

I wasn't aware mars's ring was still expensive bro.
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By Carbuncle.Crollion 2011-08-03 13:46:07  
this is my current WS set looking to make improvements to it what do u guys think would work better and yes im getting a snow belt within the next day or 2 lol.

WS Set:
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-08-04 00:19:45  
Bibiki seashell, Apathy gorget, Heafoc or +5vit augmented hands, spiral ring for the vit+str and you have the same setup that I use. There are improvements to that setup, but each of these items I listed are pretty easy to obtain and DO make a difference.
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By Carbuncle.Crollion 2011-08-04 11:28:47  
Ya shafted on bibiki did the quest long time ago and tossed it so really *** myself there lol. Working one the +5 vit hands so far got +3 on armada hands. Waiting on apathy to pop on ah lol forgot about spiral lol gotta change that set lol.


But thank u for the input helps a lot honestly.

Any good advice for atmas? I've tested out alpha and omega gc rr wasn't to bad.

I'm thinking vv gc and mounted champ but u might have better luck then me I just got the thing days ago and tryed it out 1 time only so far.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-04 11:33:13  
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Ya shafted on bibiki did the quest long time ago and tossed it so really *** myself there lol.

Welcome aboard. Tossed mine years ago too.

Pretty sure that Apocalypse, Razed Ruin and Voracious Violet is the acknowledged standard set. Maybe Sanguine Scythe in place of VV, but I'd stick with Apoc/VV/RR.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-04 11:48:57  
Bibiki Seashell isnt worth using unless you are 100% postive you are hitting the attack cap.

I would also use Grim over Twilight for the same reason, or if you can get a Byrnie +1 till you can get your hands on Ares or Shadow Breastplate.

Keep in Mind that VIT may be the main mod, but Attack is by far the biggest benefactor for Torcleaver. Like I said before unless you are 100% Positive you are hitting the attack cap, you are better off sticking too attack.

I use two sets.

LR Down:



LR Up:



These are the two general sets I use, altho on higher NMs I will go in favor of my higher attack build instead of my VIT build.

Edit:

Why are you WS'ing in Goading Belt? Warwolf should be your waist option if you don't have your Snow belt yet which isnt hard to get at all, Isgenbind is a joke and your lv 90 Mob.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-04 12:05:10  

Inside Abyssea/with LR


Outside Abyssea/without LR.

I'm 0/ridiculous on Phobos's Cuirass going back like four years ago. I took a couple-year break from salvage (didn't everyone?) and having started again recently still no luck after several runs. So stupid.
By volkom 2011-08-04 12:06:57  
I should get back into salvage...have a bunch of 15 and 25 pieces laying around -.- but havn't had the time to do runs T_T
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-04 12:09:32  
volkom said:
I should get back into salvage...have a bunch of 15 and 25 pieces laying around -.- but havn't had the time to do runs T_T

If you already have the 25 body for Ares I would definatley go after the 35 it is much easier to attain these days.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-04 12:09:37  
35s are easier to get now. But can still frustrate. My numbers on the 35 Usu are similar to my numbers on the 25 Ares's.

I really hate salvage. >:(
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-04 12:12:07  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said:

I'm 0/ridiculous on Phobos's Cuirass going back like four years ago. I took a couple-year break from salvage (didn't everyone?) and having started again recently still no luck after several runs. So stupid.

Took me about 6 months to get mine back at 75 Cap, AFTER taking about a year of the rats not dropping my 35.

That Chariot is a *** :/

Good luck tho man hopefully it puts out soon for you x:
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-04 12:17:04  
Had a "when it rains, it pours" situation on my 35. The wife's a lifetime pld. Back at 75 it took us like 2+ years of runs to get her 35 and then, in the end, the run after we got hers, we got mine. :x

Edit: In the name of full disclosure, I will be fair and say that over that time we didn't do salvage daily the way a lot of people did back then. 2-3 times a week, tops. But still; at least half those runs trying to get 35 Ares's and Morrigan's pieces and it was soooooo brutal.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-08-04 12:47:59  
I honestly have no plans on ever doing Salvage..so Ares is out of the question for me. If no Ares what other bodies would you use?

Shadow > Grim > Af3 > Ebody?

I don't have my Caladbolg yet but I should in a week or two and i'm curious about gear sets that I would need.
By volkom 2011-08-04 12:54:33  
think its...

if attack is capped
twilight > ares > shadow > grim > af3 > ebody

if attack isn't capped

ares > shadow > twilight > grim > af3 > ebody
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-04 13:00:19  
If you don't have Ares/Shadow I would Honestly use Byrnie +1 or Grim Cuirass. I am not a fan of Twilight body at all, on anything that matters its not a good body in the very least.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-08-04 13:09:11  
I have Shadow which is what I will most like most of the time.

I too am not a fan of Twilight body other than idle well and RR.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-04 13:13:00  
Bahamut.Zorander said:
I have Shadow which is what I will most like most of the time.

I too am not a fan of Twilight body other than idle well and RR.

If you can get 2% Triple attack on your Shadow Breastplate then as it currently stands that is the best possible Torcleaver body you can use other than the HQ version, so you don't have to worry about Ares's Cuirass until Salvage upgrades come out and even then its up in the air what they are going to do to Ares Body.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-04 14:06:03  
Pretty much what Gradd's said. Don't snub the Byrnie+1. It may be old, but it's still got quality stats.
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-08-04 18:36:28  
Yeah I neglected the att cap part of it. When I do swap gear, I try to keep my Twilight on due to the insane +15. the 12 from Bomb Core + +2 bale pants should set you close to where you need to be given that you're eating red curry buns. Also, the +2 bale pants are also a great swap in due to the acc+ you get to offset the heacof mits -acc.

For atma I rarely stray away from lion/apoc/rr. You're not going to reach crazy high numbers on your Torcleaver, so I recommend that you put your dmg eye on your DoT with Cala's low delay. Having said that, if you still want to improve Torcleaver's dmg, Griffin's Claw / RR / Apoc is an option. it will lower your TA, but you'll get that 10% boost on each ws.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-08-04 18:49:06  
Surely A&O is better than Lion if you're after TA? DRK has a lot of utility to cover the -hp, and the only detrimental effect I see is for SE, but not enough to warrant the *Atk loss in my mind.

I am however only recently getting into DRK as I'm working on GS for shits and giggles, so there's probably something I'm missing/forgetting.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-08-04 18:52:37  
Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
Surely A&O is better than Lion if you're after TA? DRK has a lot of utility to cover the -hp, and the only detrimental effect I see is for SE, but not enough to warrant the TA/Atk loss in my mind.

I am however only recently getting into DRK as I'm working on GS for shits and giggles, so there's probably something I'm missing/forgetting.

I thought lion and alpha\omega had the same TA?
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-08-04 19:00:27  
yea they do, was more thinking about the 40atk A&O has.
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-08-04 19:36:56  
A&O and Lion both have 10% TA and the +40att is deff a good thing, but it's the HP- to PDT that sways me towards Lion. If I'm on DRK using Cala for what it's good for, there's a real good chance that I'm the one taking the hits so that hp and pdt- really help imo.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-08-04 20:05:34  
Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
yea they do, was more thinking about the 40atk A&O has.

Just looked like you compared A&O to Lion and saying it would be a decrease in TA* :P
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