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 Ragnarok.Erikthecleric
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-13 07:15:36  
Lookin to make a M.Def setup for my NIN... I have one for my PLD, but my NIN cant use more then half the gear on it :|.

Pieces I have so far:
Lamian Kaman +1
Merman's Ring
Shadow Ring
Coral Earring x2
Twilight Torque


These are all the pieces I can think of offhand. What other pieces can I get, aside from obviously upgrading those Coral Earrings to Merman's Earring? AH-able first as thats what I'd like to wear until I can obtain the NM and such gear. Also, not looking into going for dual Sekka +2 for M.def set... at least not yet, nor ever since its stupid light weather lol D:.
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By Luz 2011-01-13 07:26:38  
Well if you ever got to the point you needed a weapon and don't have capped MDT Oupire was easily duoable by an evasive job + RDM at 85. At 90 probably a complete joke. Of course the damage on it is not great though.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-13 07:30:15  
update: grabbed a Lamian Mantle +1 (could've sworn i had one, but i cant find it anywhere :|)

Might look into Oupire soon.

TBH, it doesnt look like NIN can wear a lot of mdef gear, at least whats listed on wiki, which hasnt updated much since 75+... so missing out on a lot as is. Need to check the MDT- list D:.

Also, does anyone know if DT- caps at the same as MDT?

Example: Shellra V (capped) + 20% MDT- and 5% DT- would be cap correct?
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By Luz 2011-01-13 07:32:05  
Yeah, the only difference between DT and MDT/PDT is it applies to both. It is still subject to the cap though.
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-01-13 07:33:15  
Lamia mantle +1
Resolute belt depending on wether you want this set to macro in for "oshit aga3" or for a TP set with M.def you might want a haste belt instead.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-13 07:33:48  
Good. That means my twilight torque has a really good use in this set >.>! Here I come Empousa D:


Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Lamia mantle +1
Resolute belt depending on wether you want this set to macro in for "oshit aga3" or for a TP set with M.def you might want a haste belt instead.


Just grabbed the lamia mantle, and checked up on resolute belt, none up on stock :<
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-13 07:40:03  
Hey BFF!

Here's an old MDB set I still had laying around. I know that you have most of this gear already or it's something we can pretty easily get you. Good Luck!

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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-13 07:49:20  
I hate you ash.
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By Titan.Wubby 2011-01-13 08:37:24  
I levelled NIN about 3 weeks ago and also was looking to make a MDT set using hand me downs from my RDM. I found that, similar to what was said in the OP, NIN doesn't really have a whole lot of options in terms of MDT/MDB gear..

This is what I currently use.



I know for head slot there's a MDB +4 piece that NIN can use, but it comes from MMM. AFAIK, the only thing that can go into body/hands/legs/feet are INT pieces. I probably won't use the Kaman tho since it will reset TP to 0.

Is AV killed regularly on your server? If so, I'd try to look into getting a Minerva's Ring esp since one of your ring slots is being used by Shadow Ring. Also, Lieutenant's Sash > Resolute Belt if your MDT isn't at cap, I believe.

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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-01-13 08:42:04  
drop the Lamia mantle +1 for resentment cape if u tanking in sky/sea/abyssea alot
easy *** NM
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-01-13 08:44:12  
Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
update: grabbed a Lamian Mantle +1 (could've sworn i had one, but i cant find it anywhere :|)

Might look into Oupire soon.

TBH, it doesnt look like NIN can wear a lot of mdef gear, at least whats listed on wiki, which hasnt updated much since 75+... so missing out on a lot as is. Need to check the MDT- list D:.

Also, does anyone know if DT- caps at the same as MDT?

Example: Shellra V (capped) + 20% MDT- and 5% DT- would be cap correct?

I had thought that the -MDT (and -PDT) caps were 50%. Is it 25%?

Also, run up a trial weapon for it. I don't know if you're willing to sacrifice some other stat, but trials are pretty easy (if long) and free. You could do magic defense, magic evasion, or both, I guess.
 
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-01-13 08:47:10  
Fenrir.Terminus said:
Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
update: grabbed a Lamian Mantle +1 (could've sworn i had one, but i cant find it anywhere :|)

Might look into Oupire soon.

TBH, it doesnt look like NIN can wear a lot of mdef gear, at least whats listed on wiki, which hasnt updated much since 75+... so missing out on a lot as is. Need to check the MDT- list D:.

Also, does anyone know if DT- caps at the same as MDT?

Example: Shellra V (capped) + 20% MDT- and 5% DT- would be cap correct?

I had thought that the -MDT (and -PDT) caps were 50%. Is it 25%?

Also, run up a trial weapon for it. I don't know if you're willing to sacrifice some other stat, but trials are pretty easy (if long) and free. You could do magic defense, magic evasion, or both, I guess.
capped shellraV is 26~27% already, thus the 25% in gear
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-01-13 08:47:34  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Fenrir.Krazyrs said:
drop the Lamia mantle +1 for resentment cape if u tanking in sky/sea/abyssea alot
easy *** NM
Wiki doesnt specify enough on that NM though, it is only up for 15 mins then despawns you might take awhile to get drop since it's a low drop rate
idk i was 1/1 :o
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By Luz 2011-01-13 08:49:21  
Doesn't despawn and 45% is probably accurate. I went 1/2 then passed ToD onto a friend who went 1/1. It certainly isn't low.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-01-13 08:50:29  
Gotcha - cool cool. Thanks.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-13 08:50:58  
Awwwwwww.....I thought this thread was about Most Def the rapper and how he plays NIN in FFXI. Curse my imagination!!!
 
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-13 08:54:14  
resentment cape works in abyssea?
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By Luz 2011-01-13 08:55:16  
Um... I think late May-early June last year. I know it was right as I was finishing my NIN/DRK sets, right before hatespell nerf D:
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-13 09:01:35  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Luz said:
Doesn't despawn and 45% is probably accurate. I went 1/2 then passed ToD onto a friend who went 1/1. It certainly isn't low.
When I camped it about 6 months ago it did despawn after 15 minutes. When did you and your friend kill?
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said:
Awwwwwww.....I thought this thread was about Most Def the rapper and how he plays NIN in FFXI. Curse my imagination!!!
What's he been up to lately? lol haven't heard much new


Last I heard of him was that CD he made in 2008. I think he is doing movies now. But if he did play FFXI, he would def be a Brd/Nin. /endtrolling
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-01-13 09:02:02  
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
resentment cape works in abyssea?
Doubt it, Abyssea isn't a conquest area unlike Sea. Stick to Lamia Mantle +1
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-13 09:14:52  
Fenrir.Krazyrs said:
drop the Lamia mantle +1 for resentment cape if u tanking in sky/sea/abyssea alot
easy *** NM

Have one, doesnt work in abyssea I believe... I know it didnt work in Aht Urhgan, so I'm nearly positive it doesnt work in abyssea. Signet not working also helps support that.^
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-13 09:16:57  
Fenrir.Terminus said:

Also, run up a trial weapon for it. I don't know if you're willing to sacrifice some other stat, but trials are pretty easy (if long) and free. You could do magic defense, magic evasion, or both, I guess.

Magic Evasion = resist rate? That might be worth doing, but the M.Def katanas would mean killing ***in light weather right? I've had enough of 1 point per kill that I dont care for anymore (enchu +2 took a bunch @_@) lol...
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By Luz 2011-01-13 09:23:20  
Only need to do 1 MDB Katana if you're going to get Oupire's katana.

He's a joke and nobody kills him but bored people leaving Salvage/Nyzul. Or people MPKing one of their MNKs who fell asleep during Salvage (Naratu :D)
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-13 09:27:48  
Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
Fenrir.Terminus said:

Also, run up a trial weapon for it. I don't know if you're willing to sacrifice some other stat, but trials are pretty easy (if long) and free. You could do magic defense, magic evasion, or both, I guess.

Magic Evasion = resist rate? That might be worth doing, but the M.Def katanas would mean killing ***in light weather right? I've had enough of 1 point per kill that I dont care for anymore (enchu +2 took a bunch @_@) lol...

i think mdef is water, meva is light
 
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2011-01-13 13:53:21  
Yeah, NIN's kinda boned when you're looking for magic defense options.

I wouldn't bother working on MDB katanas, I barely even use my evasion katanas, which would supposedly get more use because of NIN's role. I can't really think of any situations where you'd want to fulltime the MDB katana/lose your TP to take less damage from a spell.

2 pieces I don't think I've seen mentioned yet are Denali Wristbands and Suijin Kabuto. Latter requires you to have a decent MMM rune collection/know someone with one.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-13 14:17:14  
Asura.Solara said:
Ding ding ding, we have a winner! 25% MDT, enough to cap with Shell V. Can also replace one of the 2% pieces with a MDT augmented MKD hat if your second augment isn't tied up elsewhere (for instance, mine is waltz recast/MDT), or use it in tandem with the entire set if you're rocking Shadow Ring like the OP. For the remaining sets, I usually just keep my TP or eva gear on but if you want to reduce damage further I'd save some inventory space and throw on gear with INT rather than MDB since they double as nuking gear.
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