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Whats AoA! \o/
Bismarck.Rinomaru said: Whats AoA! \o/ Your face. Asura.Macone said: Tank/DD with Blade: Hi: Gnarled Horn, RR, Dark Depths Tank/DD no Blade: Hi: Gnarled Horn, RR, VV Apocalypse. For DD purposes, it's easily the second most powerful atma NIN has available (after RR). RR+AoA+GH/VV would be my default setup, choosing GH or VV depending on my needs (read: do I need regain for !! procs or am I focusing on tanking/damage). Other atmas like C&D or SS obviously have their place too.
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Apocalypse. For DD purposes, it's easily the second most powerful atma NIN has available (after RR). RR+AoA+GH/VV would be my default setup, choosing GH or VV depending on my needs (read: do I need regain for !! procs or am I focusing on tanking/damage). Other atmas like C&D or SS obviously have their place too. vv's regain is hardly necessary for any type of weakness trigger tbh, blast a stalwart's and have at it but yea, rr/gh/apoc to the fifth *** power Bismarck.Snprphnx said: Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Walk of Echoes is ghey Kannagi or go home. Seriously. I'm 1/50 helm and 10/50 skins. When I get serious I bet it wouldn't take me more then a week to finish. it wont. we are doing leaders now, 3 nights of helms and 2 nights so far of skins. should finish it tonight Not to derail or anything, but what setup are you using to farm these nms? Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Walk of Echoes is ghey I'm 1/50 helm and 10/50 skins. When I get serious I bet it wouldn't take me more then a week to finish. Ragnarok.Tomtomz said: Bismarck.Snprphnx said: Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Walk of Echoes is ghey Kannagi or go home. Seriously. I'm 1/50 helm and 10/50 skins. When I get serious I bet it wouldn't take me more then a week to finish. it wont. we are doing leaders now, 3 nights of helms and 2 nights so far of skins. should finish it tonight Not to derail or anything, but what setup are you using to farm these nms? When I farmed my kannagi base group was a NIN, WAR, THF, RDM, WHM, BLM. pop, proc, lootwhore trophy, rinse and repeat. Other jobs jumped in as needed, but that setup will pretty much cover anything you need. Phoenix.Fredjan said: Asura.Macone said: Tank/DD with Blade: Hi: Gnarled Horn, RR, Dark Depths Tank/DD no Blade: Hi: Gnarled Horn, RR, VV Apoc is great and I do use it for certain fights but disagree that it is flat out better then Dark Depths. Having the extra evasion is nice and the AGI for Hi even though its only 20 doesn't hurt. It also makes it so my crit rate have a base of 70% just from atmas which basically makes me crit non stop. Regardless I personally haven't used it enough to deny that its better. It seems like a lot of people are favoring Apoc though so I will switch over to it for the next couple of weeks and parse it. Asura.Macone said: so my crit rate have a base of 70% just from atmas which basically makes me crit non stop. iirc Kirschy's testing showed that Atma crit rate collectively caps at 50% It's like haste. There are sub-caps on how much you can get from different sources, EDIT: My mistake. 50% was an assumed cap because parsed crit rate was the same between RR+DD and RR+GH, even though one was described as major and the other minor. In fact they both have the same % effect despite the translation. Sylph.Gredival said: Asura.Macone said: so my crit rate have a base of 70% just from atmas which basically makes me crit non stop. iirc Kirschy's testing showed that Atma crit rate collectively caps at 50% It's like haste. There are sub-caps on how much you can get from different sources, Pulled from BG Forums: "Atma Effects & Discussion" Thread Malacite said: Wasn't there a 50% cap on +crit rate gained from Atmas? The over-all cap is 95% but I thought Kirschy (or someone in that thread) found that +crit from atma caps. In which case Dark Depths is pointless. Gabai said: no, there is no cap from atma, there was just some confusion as to how much certain atmas gave NynJa said: It was later determined to be reduced to 95% I thought from a ninjapatch? Kirschy said: My test sample was so small it's hard to tell if it was a ninja patch or not. (80/80 hits @ 100% crit rate or something.) Doesn't realli matter since we know it's 95% now~ I have also done tests where my crit rate was way higher then it should have been if you are going by the 50% cap rule. Crit hit DAMAGE+ caps at +50%, not crit rate
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Bahamut.Raenryong said: It was pinned down on BG recently after it was out and it's potent! I can't remember the exact formula but it's something like dAGI = 75 is the cap and with this you feed zero TP to the mob, or something incredibly minor like that. I know I went and threw myself at a Minhocao yesterday on NIN/WAR for shits and giggles with 3x Furtherance and Gnarled Horn and the first TP move was at 33%. |
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